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[Arl Raylen]

Just finished Trespasser last night. I would understand Solas being able to overpower a non-mage class easily, but with my character being a Mage who drank from the well of sorrows and did practically everything he could to gain power, it was a little disheartening to see Solas man-handle him.

 

I would have at least appeciated an option to discharge some anchor energy at him, or if they had let us open a rift a la Corypheus in an attempt to stop him (my Quiztor was adamant about killing Solas).

 

I know that the mark is technically Solas' creation, but I thought his negation of its power at the end there was a little over the top. I'm not sure our next protagonist has a chance in hell against Solas unless they are part old god or the Hero of Ferelden

[Ashaantha]

The only reason I don't like that ending is that I have been having a lot of trouble thinking up who will actually kill/defeat Solas and/or his plans. Solely because I don't see a player character being able to do it in a short in-universe time frame most DA games get set in (dao and dai - 1-3 years).

[Medhia_Nox]

I was on to Solas after the first conversations in Haven.

 

While it wasn't obvious he was Fen'Harel... it was clear he was a deranged mage who would do dangerous things if allowed. 

 

It's a pity I couldn't be pro-active.  

 

I wasn't sad... I was irritated.

[Rekkampum]

Well, Solas is uberpowerful and gained more from absorbing Flemythal, so I'm not surprised. I wasn't bummed at all; dude saved your life by removing the Mark, even if the two of you hated each other.

[thats1evildude]

Uh, no? Even if he didn't absolutely control the Mark, he is essentially a god.

[nightscrawl]

Well, Solas is uberpowerful and gained more from absorbing Flemythal, so I'm not surprised. I wasn't bummed at all; dude saved your life by removing the Mark, even if the two of you hated each other.

 

To add, the entire DLC the Anchor grows increasingly volatile and the Inquisitor is barely able to control it. In the last phase, you are forced into releasing power periodically or you take a great amount of damage. So, not having any such options goes perfectly with how they set it up.

[Rekkampum]

To add, the entire DLC the Anchor grows increasingly volatile and the Inquisitor is barely able to control it. In the last phase, you are forced into releasing power periodically or you take a great amount of damage. So, not having any such options goes perfectly with how they set it up.

 

Yeah. Given Solas was the original creator of the Orb that bestowed the Mark, it also followed that he'd have an understanding of it that others like Corypheus wouldn't.

[Beomer]

It's been made pretty clear that the ancient elven mages were pretty powerful, kinda like Tevinter Magisters. Solas, Flemeth and the rest of these lot were the most powerful of them, became their rulers, and came to be revered as gods. Probably like the Tevinter Archon times ten.

And to put that into context, one Tevinter Archon managed to curb stomp all the seven magisters sidereal after they became tainted.

And the Inquisitor alone isn't even a match for Cory, since they need an entire party to defeat him.

Do the math. Solas is ridiculously powerful. Flemythal probably was even more so. And like Solas says, the first of his people were not easy to kill.

The Inky, barely able to contain their own mark, trying to damage Solas would look like someone learning to drive in a compact Beetle trying to go Mad Max on a M1 Abrams.

[greenbrownblue]

Just finished Trespasser last night. I would understand Solas being able to overpower a non-mage class easily, but with my character being a Mage who drank from the well of sorrows and did practically everything he could to gain power, it was a little disheartening to see Solas man-handle him.

 

I would have at least appeciated an option to discharge some anchor energy at him, or if they had let us open a rift a la Corypheus in an attempt to stop him (my Quiztor was adamant about killing Solas).

 

I know that the mark is technically Solas' creation, but I thought his negation of its power at the end there was a little over the top. I'm not sure our next protagonist has a chance in hell against Solas unless they are part old god or the Hero of Ferelden

How giving yourself into the service of an ancient elven god is "gaining power"?

[Beomer]

How giving yourself into the service of an ancient elven god is "gaining power"?

 

Actually that's a sort of a misunderstanding caused due to Morrigan.

She says drinking from the well will give power. She most probably means power through immense knowledge, which would make sense since the well does provide the drinker with the knowledge collected over thousands of years and someone who is capable of using that knowledge can potentially become powerful.

All this however isn't explained right up until you're standing next to the well.

Until then it's just like some super weapon Cory is after.

[Jaison1986]

Drinking from the well only makes you weaker against Solas. Since he took Mythal soul/power, he very likely gained the ability to control whoever drank from the well.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Uh, no? Even if he didn't absolutely control the Mark, he is essentially a god.

A bald elf with the complex of a god which is different.

Without Mythal he wasn't even  capable to touch a servant of the gods like Corypheus.

He is powerful because is a high ranking mage,a dreamer with a vast knowledge of magic (unlike Feynriel who has the talent but lack the expertise)

[Ashagar]

No because even if he wasn't one of the elven 'god kings' its clear he's a dreamer and dreamers are absurdly more powerful than other mages capable of things other mages even blood mages could only dream of. There is a reason why Dreamers command great respect amongst the Tevinter.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Drinking from the well only makes you weaker against Solas. Since he took Mythal soul/power, he very likely gained the ability to control whoever drank from the well.

He didn't took Mythal , Solas really loves to be independent.

The well of sorrow only makes weak against Mythal.

[thats1evildude]

A bald elf with the complex of a god which is different.

 

Tell that to the few dozen qunari he petrified.

[Arl Raylen]

It's been made pretty clear that the ancient elven mages were pretty powerful, kinda like Tevinter Magisters. Solas, Flemeth and the rest of these lot were the most powerful of them, became their rulers, and came to be revered as gods. Probably like the Tevinter Archon times ten.

And to put that into context, one Tevinter Archon managed to curb stomp all the seven magisters sidereal after they became tainted.

And the Inquisitor alone isn't even a match for Cory, since they need an entire party to defeat him.

Do the math. Solas is ridiculously powerful. Flemythal probably was even more so. And like Solas says, the first of his people were not easy to kill.

The Inky, barely able to contain their own mark, trying to damage Solas would look like someone learning to drive in a compact Beetle trying to go Mad Max on a M1 Abrams.

 

 

Heh, trust me I fully understand power scaling. My post isn't so much complaining about Solas being more powerful, just the way it went down. We were basically helpless. I always like the option of lashing out even when the scales are against you (there was an *attack Solas* option, which I took, but all you do is step forward while Solas' eyes flash, causing you to collapse in pain).

 

And as the first reply suggested, if the Inquisitor was so helpless, how are we going to defeat Solas barring some kind of deus ex machina weapon or plot device (this almost reminds me of the Reapers)?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Tell that to the few dozen qunari he petrified.

A dozen of qunari........For what i recall Flemeth did even better in DAII with all those darkspawn

Should the thousands of darkspawn and their leaders which was a god (a false one of course like Solas) and the step brother of Corypheus that were slaughtered by the HoF consider the character an uber god? Oh probably they should....but they didn't....

[Nefla]

It only makes me sad if the inquisitor ends up not being able to do anything about it, if their missing hand is used as an excuse to make them a desk jockey and have some random new person be the one to take a revenge that's not his to take.

[Dai Grepher]

I don't believe that my Inquisitor lost against Solas in any way. So, no.

 

What I was displeased with is how poorly written Trespasser was in multiple ways, how there were no options on how to deal with the situation, and also how no choice you made mattered.

 

Why would the Inquisitor just leave the council meeting completely when the Qunari body is found? Why would anyone want to cover that up? Why wouldn't the palace be on total lockdown in light of this development? Why would the Inquisitor start messing around with green glowing magic on elvhen ruins? Why couldn't Cassandra suppress the mark with her Seeker powers? Why couldn't Dagna create wards against it? And so on. It was all just poorly written and forced storyline.

[NKnight7]

Not really, he's far more powerful than the Inquisitor. Besides, the Inquisitor wasn't at his/her best condition with the mark killing them.

[Walter Black]

I don't believe that my Inquisitor lost against Solas in any way. So, no.

 

What I was displeased with is how poorly written Trespasser was in multiple ways, how there were no options on how to deal with the situation, and also how no choice you made mattered.

 

Why would the Inquisitor just leave the council meeting completely when the Qunari body is found? Why would anyone want to cover that up? Why wouldn't the palace be on total lockdown in light of this development? Why would the Inquisitor start messing around with green glowing magic on elvhen ruins? Why couldn't Cassandra suppress the mark with her Seeker powers? Why couldn't Dagna create wards against it? And so on. It was all just poorly written and forced storyline.

 

 

 

As much as I agree that the Inquisitor should have been more proactive with more options, sometimes I wonder how well we would fare under EA's budgetary deadlines...

[Ghost Gal]

Just finished Trespasser last night. I would understand Solas being able to overpower a non-mage class easily, but with my character being a Mage who drank from the well of sorrows and did practically everything he could to gain power, it was a little disheartening to see Solas man-handle him.

 

You just saw Solas turn a whole courtyard of Qunari soldiers into stone with a thought.

 

Unless your mage Inquisitor is able to do that, don't feel too bad.

[Iakus]

Solas is essentially a demigod.  I'm rather proud that this is what it took to stop the Inquisitor.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

You just saw Solas turn a whole courtyard of Qunari soldiers into stone with a thought.

 

Unless your mage Inquisitor is able to do that, don't feel too bad.

Rift Mage OP, please nerf.

 

Jokes aside, your Inquisitor is effectively terminally ill due to the Anchor deciding it no longer wants to be where it is, and my understanding is that if you try to attack him anyway Solas causes it to flare up worse. Of course your Inquisitor can't handle him. Heck, a powerless level one peasant who would die in one round if Solas fought seriously would probably be better suited to handle Solas than an Inquisitor at that state because at least the fight would start.

[Beerfish]

I felt better in my 2nd play through which was was 1st with the dlc.  My female elven archer treated him like dirt from word one right till the end.  She felt vindicated in her utter disdain for him through the whole game.  I even punched him in the nose once in his skyhold chambers.