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[TheKomandorShepard]

You mean old gods song , that is nothing more than consequence of turning into ghoul , avernus prevented both or rather delayed it.

 

As for Sophia DG said once that thanks to Justice Anders may never go through the calling.    

[abisha]

Fen'Harel wants to destroy the world and only he/she can save Thedas now. You guessed it right. Only the strongest, most badass and the most powerful person can save the world now and it is none other than the Hero of Ferelden. After 2 mediocre standalone games in the world of Thedas, it is time for Bioware to give us the sequel that the best fantasy game of all time deserves. It is time to give us Dragon Age: Origins 2. Please stop wasting our time with lame heroes like Hawke and Inquisitor. Bring the Warden back.

 

and what if you are a elf fanatic that totally agree with solas?.

this gonna end badly if bioware really go on with Dragon age 5 with solas.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

My mage Warden would own the Dread Wolf.

 

Spell Might + Vulnerability Hex + Mana Clash = Instantly dead Wolfgod Egghead.

[10K]

You actually think it was the hero that made Inquisition and DA2 mediocre games, HA!! If we did have a Origins 2, and the Warden returned, I bet the story would still be a pile of mess. Personally I don't want the Warden to return, I wouldn't want his reputation to be tarnished like Shepard's. Bring back the inquisitor, so he can just finished what he started.

[Dai Grepher]

You mean old gods song , that is nothing more than consequence of turning into ghoul , avernus prevented both or rather delayed it.

 

As for Sophia DG said once that thanks to Justice Anders may never go through the calling.    

 

Alistair states that you hear the Calling and that's when you know your time has come to travel to the Deep Roads and die killing darkspawn. Otherwise you will just become a ghoul (like Larius was starting to do).

[Dai Grepher]

My mage Warden would own the Dread Wolf.

 

Spell Might + Vulnerability Hex + Mana Clash = Instantly dead Wolfgod Egghead.

 

You might want to go in with Spell Shield active. Otherwise things could get a little... rocky for you.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Alistair states that you hear the Calling and that's when you know your time has come to travel to the Deep Roads and die killing darkspawn. Otherwise you will just become a ghoul (like Larius was starting to do).

Hearing old gods song is as i said nothing more but consequence losing battle with taint and sign you start turn into ghoul.So pretty much it is part of turning into ghoul.

  

[Donquijote and 59 others]

My mage Warden would own the Dread Wolf.

 

Spell Might + Vulnerability Hex + Mana Clash = Instantly dead Wolfgod Egghead.

Not to disrupt the enthusiasm....but as soon as you are thinking those thing he will turn your warden into stone or more lilkey he will just hunt the mage warden in his dream since he is a dreamer and mages are very much vulnerable against dreamers.

Is pretty narrow mind to think that a legend like the Dread wolf can lose against an ordinary mortal

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Hearing old gods song is as i said nothing more but consequence losing battle with taint and sign you start turn into ghoul.So pretty much it is part of turning into ghoul.

  

Not correct depend on the intensity of the calling that depend on the location of it's source.

Anders was still a GW when he was  manipulated by the calling of Corypheus when he was in the prison in DAII he wasn't a ghoul yet but he was still manipulated by the voices.

No One knows what it is the relation between the calling and the taint and as for why only blighted  creature can hear the calling.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

Not correct depend on the intensity of the calling that depend on the location of it's source.

Anders was still a GW when he was  manipulated by the calling of Corypheus when he was in the prison in DAII he wasn't a ghoul yet but he was still manipulated by the voices.

No One knows what it is the relation between the calling and the taint and as for why only blighted  creature can hear the calling.

 

 

Corypheus is able to affect and mind-control grey wardens and is able to fake old gods song, thus why grey wardens in Inquisition thought the calling is coming without turning into ghouls.

[GoldenGail3]

If I ever sink so low that this is the sort of thing I get enjoyment from, I'll make an appointment for a psychiatrist so I can get proper medication.

I know - it's hilarious watching as they try to team up on you and fail. Yeah, I do like the Inquistor though - and it's hard for me to like voiced progies (besides for the KOTOR progie mix; I like them a lot).

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Corypheus is able to affect and mind-control grey wardens and is able to fake old gods song, thus why grey wardens in Inquisition thought the calling is coming without turning into ghouls.

The calling of the old gods is not more original than the one of Corypheus,he isn't "faking" anything he is just using the same power.

The Grey wardens in DAI were not under Corypheus mind controlling until they were binding by a blood magic ritual,all the grey wardens controlled by Corypheus were affected by a blood magic ritual,in this case his calling have nothing to do with their mind controlling at least not directly.

He used the calling in DAI only to convince the GW that their death was near in order to convince them to perform the blood magic ritual that later enslaved them to him.

The GW of DAI have nothing to do with what happened to Anders you are just confusing staff here Anders wasn't under the effect of any ritual ,the calling was simply very strong near to the source which was Corypheus,to the point that even the GW resistance was useless,but Anders was not under his control he was just crazy like a darkspawn

 

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

The calling of the old gods is not more original than the one of Corypheus,he isn't "faking" anything he is just using the same power.

The Grey wardens in DAI were not under Corypheus mind controlling until they were binding by a blood magic ritual,all the grey wardens controlled by Corypheus were affected by a blood magic ritual,in this case his calling have nothing to do with their mind controlling at least not directly.

He used the calling in DAI only to convince the GW that their death was near in order to convince them to perform the blood magic ritual that later enslaved them to him.

The GW of DAI have nothing to do with what happened to Anders you are just confusing staff here Anders wasn't under the effect of any ritual ,the calling was simply very strong near to the source which was Corypheus,to the point that even the GW resistance was useless,but Anders was not under his control he was just crazy like a darkspawn

 

 

 

LoL , yes he is faking it if he wasn't faking it pretty much grey wardens would be close into turning ghouls because that how true Calling works. That isn't how Corypehus operates he is able to affect wardens mind as pretty much they made it clear in Legacy when he is able to affect grey wardens mind and their memory despite being unconscious.  

 

So once again , in case of real calling grey wardens hear old god song as result of them losing battle with tait , in case of corypheus it is simply because he can affect grey wardens plain and simple.

[VorexRyder]

Avernus still experienced it... he just ignored it and managed not to delay going bonkers/turning into a goul. You could physically see it eating at him.

After 200+ years, the Calling isn't an issue for people not extending their natural life-spans.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

LoL , yes he is faking it if he wasn't faking it pretty much grey wardens would be close into turning ghouls because that how true Calling works. That isn't how Corypehus operates he is able to affect wardens mind as pretty much they made it clear in Legacy when he is able to affect grey wardens mind and their memory despite being unconscious.

 

So once again , in case of real calling grey wardens hear old god song as result of them losing battle with tait , in case of corypheus it is simply because he can affect grey wardens plain and simple.

This funny lol on how you continue to say lol with no proof on your behalf,Corypheus isn't "faking" anything,he is just using the same kind of power used by the old gods by mimic them.

Corypheus only mind controlled the GW who were bound by the blood magic ritual  ordered by Erimond.

Pretty much you understood nothing as for how the calling works or even what it is.

Mimic the calling does not equate into making that calling a false one Corypheus is simply another being that like the Nightmare demon can use the same power used by the old gods,he isn't faking anything.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

This funny lol on how you continue to say lol with no proof on your behalf,Corypheus isn't "faking" anything,he is just using the same kind of power used by the old gods by mimic them.

Corypheus only mind controlled the GW who were bound by the blood magic ritual  ordered by Erimond.

Pretty much you understood nothing as for how the calling works or even what it is.

Mimic the calling does not equate into making that calling a false one Corypheus is simply another being that like the Nightmare demon can use the same power used by the old gods,he isn't faking anything.

 

I have prove, once again if that was real calling that would mean all grey wardens would be about turn into ghouls they weren't...

False , once again Corypheus was able to mind control and affect wardens even when unconscious pretty much codex entry in Legacy proves that. 

Yes it does , simply because real calling works differently than Corypheus fake one , real old god song signals that you are losing battle with taint and you are about turn into ghoul , Corypheus "calling" signals nothing and every warden can hear it regardless of their status.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I have prove, once again if that was real calling that would mean all grey wardens would be about turn into ghouls they weren't...

False , 

Yes it does , simply because real calling works differently than Corypheus fake one , real old god song signals that you are losing battle with taint and you are about turn into ghoul , Corypheus "calling" signals nothing and every warden can hear it regardless of their status.

This supposed to be a proof?

More likely is just lack of knowledge in regard of the function of the calling.

Again simple question do you even know what the calling is?

You have no answer because all that you have are what the symptoms are.

How can you distinguish a false one from a real one if the only thing that you did was

"The calling heard by the ghouls is true because they got already owned by the taint within them,while the one of Corypheus was fake because it was heard by Grey wardens as well"

Which is ultimately a narrow minded and a flawed argument since ghouls were affected by the calling of Corypheus as well or have you forgotten that Larius was a ghoul in legacy and he heard the calling of Corypheus?

The power of the calling it depends on the intensity of its source that's the ony difference between Corypheus and an Archdemon or an Old gods.

go revisit you own internal headcanon.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

This supposed to be a proof?

More likely is just lack of knowledge in regard of the function of the calling.

Again simple question do you even know what the calling is?

You have no answer because all that you have are what the symptoms are.

How can you distinguish a false one from a real one if the only thing that you did was

"The calling heard by the ghouls is true because they got already owned by the taint within them,while the one of Corypheus was fake because it was heard by Grey wardens as well"

Which is ultimately a narrow minded and a flawed argument since ghouls were affected by the calling of Corypheus as well or have you forgotten that Larius was a ghoul in legacy and he heard the calling of Corypheus?

The power of the calling it depends on the intensity of its source that's the ony difference between Corypheus and an Archdemon or an Old gods.

go revisit you own internal headcanon.

 

 

Yes, and calling is song/call emitted by old gods and can be only heard by darkspawn , ghouls and grey wardens that are about to turn into ghouls , it functions as lure for darkspawn to find old god.

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Easily

Real calling can be heard by grey wardens only when they reach point in what they are close to turning into ghoul thus hearing old god song for grey wardens is indication when grey warden should go on his calling.False calling can be heard by every grey warden and doesn't carry negative implications like real one.

Real calling is audible near its source that is old god , in case of false calling it isn't in case.   

 

I don't see point, Larius was a ghoul corypheus can affect them as well (pretty much carta members he used) but real calling can't be heard by grey wardens until they reach point they are losing battle with taint , hearing real calling for grey wardens is consequence of ghoulification , what isn't in case of Corypheus calling because it could be heard by any grey warden.In Corpheus and Archdemons are different things with similar yet different powers.

 

Pretty much , no headcanon here ,unless you speak for yourself.  

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Yes, and calling is song/call emitted by old gods and can be only heard by darkspawn , ghouls and grey wardens that are about to turn into ghouls , it functions as lure for darkspawn to find old god.

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Easily

Real calling can be heard by grey wardens only when they reach point in what they are close to turning into ghoul thus hearing old god song for grey wardens is indication when grey warden should go on his calling.False calling can be heard by every grey warden and doesn't carry negative implications like real one.

Real calling is audible near its source that is old god , in case of false calling it isn't in case.   

 

I don't see point, Larius was a ghoul corypheus can affect them as well (pretty much carta members he used) but real calling can't be heard by grey wardens until they reach point they are losing battle with taint , hearing real calling for grey wardens is consequence of ghoulification , what isn't in case of Corypheus calling because it could be heard by any grey warden.In Corpheus and Archdemons are different things with similar yet different powers.

 

Pretty much , no headcanon here ,unless you speak for yourself.

Impressive i didn't thought that was possible to say nothing, with all these words.

Of all the things you said not only i did already know everything but also they didn't even implied anything new of substantial they are nothing of nothing and they explain nothing of the nature of the difference between the song emitted by Corypheus or the one of an old god.

The calling of Corypheus affect the ghouls just like the one of the old gods,The calling of Corypheus can be heard by the blighted creature like the darkspawns exactly like the one of the old god,Corypheus isn't faking anything as his calling isn't less original than the one of those dragons trapped underground.

what you fail to understand is that the calling isn't real or false based on when  specific subjects like the GW hear it.

Now i know as for why here in the Bsn they say that Komandor shepard is not capable to see byond is own interpretations of facts and want to pretend to be right most of the time in all the discussion,well i said keep believing it      .

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

Impressive i didn't thought that was possible to say nothing, with all these words.

Of all the things you said not only i did already know everything but also they didn't even implied anything new of substantial they are nothing of nothing and they explain nothing of the nature of the difference between the song emitted by Corypheus or the one of an old god.

The calling of Corypheus affect the ghouls just like the one of the old gods,The calling of Corypheus can be heard by the blighted creature like the darkspawns exactly like the one of the old god,Corypheus isn't faking anything as his calling isn't less original than the one of those dragons trapped underground.

what you fail to understand is that the calling isn't real or false based on what  specific subjects like the GW hear it.

Now i know as for why here in the Bsn they say that Komandor shepard is not capable to see byond is own interpretations of facts and want to pretend to be right most of the time,well i said keep believing it      .

 

 

I said a lot and i already explained difference between Corypheus and old gods that you refuse to acknowledge it is your problem not mine.

 

Pretty much now you are ignoring entire point what clearly shows that you didn't read what i have said , i have made it clear previous post that Corpheus can affect ghouls and never claimed otherwise nor that matters because it was never my point. My point is plain and simple Corypheus calling affects Grey wardens , Old gods don't and hearing old god calling carries different implications for grey wardens and old god calling once again is audible near its source. That alone are already 3 differences in how they work...

 

Pretty much not only your point operated on false facts like Corypheus not being able to control wardens (when he was), but also trying to ridicule my argument by twisting it to resolve around something it wasn't despite me repelling your ridiculous attempts before.

 

Sorry for being right , but i can't help you in being wrong.

[Dai Grepher]

Hearing old gods song is as i said nothing more but consequence losing battle with taint and sign you start turn into ghoul.So pretty much it is part of turning into ghoul.

  

 

I suppose I can get on board with that. You hear the song when the ghoul process starts.
 

[Akiza]

I suppose I can get on board with that. You hear the song when the ghoul process starts.

Anders in DA2 was not a ghoul but he still heared the calling of Corypheus which made him insane.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

I said a lot and i already explained difference between Corypheus and old gods that you refuse to acknowledge it is your problem not mine.

Pretty much now you are ignoring entire point what clearly shows that you didn't read what i have said , i have made it clear previous post that Corpheus can affect ghouls and never claimed otherwise nor that matters because it was never my point. My point is plain and simple Corypheus calling affects Grey wardens , Old gods don't and hearing old god calling carries different implications for grey wardens and old god calling once again is audible near its source. That alone are already 3 differences in how they work...

Pretty much not only your point operated on false facts like Corypheus not being able to control wardens (when he was), but also trying to ridicule my argument by twisting it to resolve around something it wasn't despite me repelling your ridiculous attempts before.

Sorry for being right , but i can't help you in being wrong.

Pretty much none of what you said imply that the calling of Corypheus is a fake just because it was empowered by a Nightmare demon in order to be so amplified that even the GW heared it while the one of the old gods is "original" solely based on your headcanon as for how a calling should be detected as original because it affect only "ghouls" when it is clear to me that near to Corypheus in Legacy every blighted creature were capable to hear him like an old god just like an Old god can be heared by a GW near to his prison.
Cauliflower calling cannot affect the GW if it is not empowered by the Nightmare demon and those affected in legacy were near to his prison but this is no different to what happen to a GW when he or she is near to an old god.
Clearly Cauliflower asked help to the nightmare for fun! Not because he needed the demon to trick the GW that later performed a blood magic ritual that effectively enslaved them.
I Can't help you more than this really
So keep believing it
But remember the truth will make you free, your headcanon will not lol.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Pretty much none of what you said imply that the calling of Corypheus is a fake just because it was empowered by a Nightmare demon in order to be so amplified that even the GW heared it while the one of the old gods is "original" solely based on your headcanon as for how a calling should be detected as original because it affect only "ghouls" when it is clear to me that near to Corypheus in Legacy every blighted creature were capable to hear him like an old god just like an Old god can be heared by a GW near to his prison.
Cauliflower calling cannot affect the GW if it is not empowered by the Nightmare demon and those affected in legacy were near to his prison but this is no different to what happen to a GW when he or she is near to an old god.
Clearly Cauliflower asked help to the nightmare for fun! Not because he needed the demon to trick the GW that later performed a blood magic ritual that effectively enslaved them.
I Can't help you more than this really
So keep believing it
But remember the truth will make you free, your headcanon will not lol.

 

As far it goes you are one with head canon. It is even said that it is false calling ,as well Solas and Viviene call it false calling.

 

I don't think i need add anything more and put that it way i provided more than enough evidence.

 

And wrong once again Corypheus "song" isn't audible near him , and never saw or heard archdemon or old god controling grey wardens in it presence.I see you still trying own false points as my own , once again where i said Corypheus was able to affect only ghouls . i give you advice save yourself the embarrassment because at this point all you can do make up stuff.

 

So your "truth" is your own imagination that you protect dismissing every fact that doesn't fit you.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 

And wrong once again Corypheus "song" isn't audible near him 

Of course in legacy what Anders and Larius heared was just their imagination