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[DragonRageGT]

I must say I'm having a good time playing DA:I again. I stopped my first run at level 17 early this year, after finding the game extremely boring. But this time I switched the difficulty to Nightmare, as I should have done from start and it's a decent tactical rpg, in the best spirit of DA:Origins. BW strong suit has always been the companions in our party and they're very nice in DA:Inquisition.
Game says now around 200+ hours (playing Nightmare without guides and OCD completionist as usual) Origins says 276 hours so I'm assuming I had some 76 hours level 17 on Casual diff when I quit playing early this year. I'm really enjoying the game now and it's a very decent BW game and a good break after over 1,550 hours in TW3. I must say I'm itching to go back to TW3 but I'll finish this run. Never finished DA:I before and I love some of the characters from Origins and even DA2 who I can interact in DA:I.

But what is really amazing me is the soundtrack. Sorry TW3 music fans, I love TW1 and TW2 soundtrack. After 1,000 hours in TW3 I had to turn music volume off. I like it but it became irritating. Which didn't happen with the other games. Goes to format of the composition and my music ears perhaps. Weird enough, the music I liked the best in DA:I so far is not in the OST. And I bought the Deluxe Digital Edition when the game was released which included the OST. I'm kinda angry with Bioware for this.

 

The best part of the game is the companions, the war table and Skyhold. The vast areas to explore become quite repetitive for an OCD like me. Hitting the search key and having to collect all minerals and herbs... I kinda hate/love it (when I get some fade-touched stuff) I like the crafting as well. The game is beautiful but has no day/night cycle. Few maps are Night, most are Day. I am reaching the end of the game, with only the DLC's left before going to the final part. I will probably try a few more playthroughs with different classes, decision, romances, but it is not going to get near the 20 playthroughs I had with Origins (abt 2,000 hours total)

Now, the party banter is in no way near to the quality of DA:Origins. DA:O was so funny that I made a video series with them (and many people did it too) which is not seen in any other game. And the dialogue/voice direction was poor in my opinion. It doesn't sound natural most of the time. It is so far bellow The Witcher games quality of dialogue, TW2 & TW3 in special, that it is sad. Also, The Witcher 3 set a new standard for side-quest dialogues and cutscenes. It's too wonderful to describe. Watch some videos if you never seen it.

 

But it is also so far bellow DA:Origins quality that I can only think that Bioware's finest were given the sack after EA acquisition (DA:O started development before the take over - DA2 had already a different Lead Director and was a failure for some, especially quest and level design, with waves of thugs falling from the sky or roofs, the low level texture on zombie like NPC's - I had some funny pics on old BSN).

This one passage of Origins is priceless. Most players haven't even seen it in game because they choose a different path. They chose to free themselves if defeated by Cathrien or to kill Cathrien if they are good enough (She's a tough ****** the first time we have to fight her, a wussie in the second if we decide to fight her again). I had to reload many times to make this and select the best takes. Many people thanked in the comments for they had never seen it and went back playing to experience it! My best and most viewed video. (there are videos alike with significantly more views but mine was definitely the first one on YouTube with these scenes! =)
 

[GoldenGail3]

Uh huh. Second rant I've heard this week on the forums. :{

[thats1evildude]

I don't try to collect everything. Perhaps that's why I'm able to enjoy the open areas.

Anyways, glad to hear you're able to get back into it.

[DragonRageGT]

Uh huh. Second rant I've heard this week on the forums. :{

I don't see it just as a rant. I like the game. It has strong points but it has some flaws. If you watch my Origins Banter series (The Best Party) even Oghren when is farting causes people to laugh. Sera's spends the whole game farting and I didn't think it was funny once. I don't mind collecting all I detect with my Search key. I'm a hoarder! And thanks to that I could build a very powerful character (my all time favorite two-handed Reaver warrior - almost level 25 now! =) with top gear (for his level at the time) since the start. But if Bioware said once that they would learn from Skyrim (I remember reading that in the old forums), they might as well learn from those Polish guys who started it all using Bioware's own Aurora Engine and made a game like NWN should have been. They were awarded GOTY, RPG of the year but the most important for me was Developer of the Year. They are gamers who love games making great games for gamers who love games! This spirit should spread around gaming companies. They saved nothing to deliver the best RPG experience to this date. Origins for me was BW at its best. DAI is BW finding the right way and TW3 is, for me, what every RPG developer should look up to.

[GoldenGail3]

I don't see it just as a rant. I like the game. It has strong points but it has some flaws. If you watch my Origins Banter series (The Best Party) even Oghren when is farting causes people to laugh. Sera's spends the whole game farting and I didn't think it was funny once. I don't mind collecting all I detect with my Search key. I'm a hoarder! And thanks to that I could build a very powerful character (my all time favorite two-handed Reaver warrior) with top gear (for his level at the time) since the start. But if Bioware said once that they would learn from Skyrim (I remember reading that in the old forums), they might as well learn from those Polish guys who started it all using Bioware's own Aurora Engine and made a game like NWN should have been. They were awarded GOTY, RPG of the year but the most important for me was Developer of the Year. They are gamers who love games making great games for gamers who love games! This spirit should spread around gaming companies. They saved nothing to deliver the best RPG experience to this date. Origins for me was BW at its best. DAI is BW finding the right way and TW3 is, for me, what every RPG developer should look up to.

The Witchers Three? Isn't that one game with lots of nudity, voilence, and other inappropriate stuff? And yeah, this is indeed a rant. Don't deny it, it kind of is. And no offense, but the Witches isn't really my thing go be honest, I pefer lighter, dark fanstast games where I can create my own person. And i agree, DAO is the da best of the series.

[Serza]

Always liked your party banter and such... but how could you stomach 1500 hours of Fetchquester?

[DragonRageGT]

The Witchers Three? Isn't that one game with lots of nudity, voilence, and other inappropriate stuff? And yeah, this is indeed a rant. Don't deny it, it kind of is. And no offense, but the Witches isn't really my thing go be honest, I pefer lighter, dark fanstast games where I can create my own person. And i agree, DAO is the da best of the series.

 

I don't know where you got your information about The Witcher 3 but it is all optional, like gay romance in BW games. You don't have to go to a brothel or to romance anyone. You don't have to have sex with anyone at all.  And you can even talk your way out of some conflicts but there are combat indeed, just like any other game of the genre.  What might be other inappropriate stuff? Fistech addiction and trafficking? How is that different of Lyrium addiction in DA universe? And we even have Cullen going through a withdraw process without any 12 steps to help him! Not trying to convince you of anything but if you have 2 mins to waste, watch this: (And it was kind of a tribute to Leliana calling Sten a softie in DA:O which is also in my banter series)

 

Always liked your party banter and such... but how could you stomach 1500 hours of Fetchquester?

 

You mean TW3? It is not a fetch quester, imho. Actually, there are no fetch quests like DA:I requisitions, collections, etc. And the side quests are optional. Although important to find the best gear, crafting diagrams and materials. They're so beautifully written though, with so much to discover that is unmarked. Check this out. Not my video and I didn't found this until my 4th or 5th playthrough.

[Serza]

*shrug*

 

I played it. Didn't like it... much.

 

That said, I suppose I understand why some might like it, but the true GotY this year to me is Life is Strange.

[hoechlbear]

 

 

I wasn't going to comment on this thread but wow, I'm on my 5th playthrough of TW3 and I never encountered this before. It just goes to show the amount of content this games offers you, to the point that it's so easy to miss things out on your first playthroughs. Somehow I managed to miss like 10 NPC encounters and sidequests on my first playthrough.

 

Anyway, don't waste your time. Some people will just have a natural hate for TW3 either because "the fans are annoying and ruined the game for me" or because apparently all Geralt does is go around having sex with women. Funny because I had a 100 hour playthrough where he had zero sex. And I find it even more funny when they give the excuse that TW3 has violence and inappropriate stuff. Right lol because desire demons and the whole broodmother part (among other things) from DAO were so appropriate...

[MaxQuartiroli]

This one passage of Origins is priceless. Most players haven't even seen it in game because they choose a different path. They chose to free themselves if defeated by Cathrien or to kill Cathrien if they are good enough (She's a tough ****** the first time we have to fight her, a wussie in the second if we decide to fight her again). I had to reload many times to make this and select the best takes. Many people thanked in the comments for they had never seen it and went back playing to experience it! My best and most viewed video. (there are videos alike with significantly more views but mine was definitely the first one on YouTube with these scenes! =)
 

 

 

Curious.. I did several DA:O playthroughs and I never thought for a single moment to free myself or to fight Ser Cauthrien. I always let my allies taking the job because I had the feeling that the game suggested you that it was for the best...

[DragonRageGT]

Curious.. I did several DA:O playthroughs and I never thought for a single moment to free myself or to fight Ser Cauthrien. I always let my allies taking the job because I had the feeling that the game suggested you that it was for the best...

Even if you did, how many combos did you try?

 

If you take the time to read the comments on the video, I'd say that a majority of them says they were too proud to be defeated by Cathrien or had always broke free on their own and never saw it. Some did see it with different combos. I did that too on my playthroughs. I only used the companions to make the video! =)) (although breaking free on my own using Better Bodies was somewhat indecent. I have a video of a Dwarf Warden breaking free and had to censor some parts. My Leliana Song video with a Nudism Camp theme were removed from YouTube but hey, DA:O is a 18+ game! The one with the Trailer Mod armor is a success! She's gorgeous)

[Serza]

Actually I feel there's something missing if you just break out yourself.

 

There's no "Warden! You're free! Oh my what a surprise! Are you ok?" scene, for example.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Even if you did, how many combos did you try?

 

After so many years I can't say for sure.. but I can say which ones are stuck in my mind because they were glorious,that are Lel/Morrigan and Sten/Oghren, even if the latest couple is such an epic failure..

[AlanC9]

Now, the party banter is in no way near to the quality of DA:Origins. DA:O was so funny that I made a video series with them (and many people did it too) which is not seen in any other game. And the dialogue/voice direction was poor in my opinion. It doesn't sound natural most of the time.

"Is not seen in any other game?" You sure?

Personally, I'll put the DA:O dialogues up against anything Bio's done before.

This one passage of Origins is priceless. Most players haven't even seen it in game because they choose a different path. They chose to free themselves if defeated by Cathrien or to kill Cathrien if they are good enough

Most players didn't see this? News to me. Did Bio release data on that? I'm not sure your video comments prove anything.

[thats1evildude]

 

Why did they close the sarcophagus lid the first time? Why not ask the vampire when it was open if he knew about the manuscript?

 

Eh. Aside from having the vampire turn into a monster, I'm not that impressed.

[DragonRageGT]

"Is not seen in any other game?" You sure?

Personally, I'll put the DA:O dialogues up against anything Bio's done before.

Most players didn't see this? News to me. Did Bio release data on that? I'm not sure your video comments prove anything.

 

Of course you wouldn't. You've been disapproving everything I post in this new forum. I could swear that you are the guy who doubt my Nightmare High Dragon fight video was really Nightmare in the old forums. The comments are there. It's up to you to read and make your own conclusions.

I will select two:

 

Bowlcuts 2 weeks ago

I kinda regret not doing these prison breaks. I think I only did it once using my party members and the second time I broke out on my own. I can never back down to Ser Cauthrien, too much honor involved I guess. :\

alistair is in the cage with you, kinda hard for him to break you out 

 

PitaStreet 6 years ago

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR POSTING THAT!! I was in stitches. When I was in the prison; I broke out myself. I was always curious what would of happened otherwise. I am wondering though, what about Alistair and Wynne? Do they not also have a funny act or do they not have one at all?

[Madfox11]

In my dozen or so playthroughs of DAO, I always broke myself out. Somehow I never liked the idea of relying on others to get out So I enjoyed that video.

[JosieRevisited]

 

Anyway, don't waste your time. Some people will just have a natural hate for TW3 either because "the fans are annoying and ruined the game for me" or because apparently all Geralt does is go around having sex with women. .

 

Or maybe there are some folks who just can't identify as that particular protagonist and have zero interest in 'his' story. I'm one of those folks - might be a great game, might be a terrible one, but it doesn't really matter because I've already lived most of my life role-playing as 'brooding introspective but likable white male hero with awesome hair #1' and frankly, I'm over it. So what you are interpreting as hate is really just indifference to a world we can't insert ourselves into with a player character we can't identify as. 

 

Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that style of gameplay. It just means that you are going to get fans in these forums who are here for all the reasons that Dragon age and Mass effect aren't like TW3. 

 

As for the OP, Nightmare does feel like an entirely different game, I tried to advance the story too soon on a couple of occasions and got wrecked. Even tips online that folks had at release don't work now - probably patched. So I ended up exploring every nook and cranny I could before the fall of Haven and discovered some cool things I didn't see on several casual playthroughs. It's been a lot of fun, actually, but I agree the infrequency of banter and the quality of it really made the zones feel large and empty. What could have been a great distraction from the sheer amount of running you do from point a to some random ! all the way across the map ended up being nothing more than the occasional disappointment. I think they bit off more than they could chew in terms of companions. I liked them all more or less, but there's just too many and the quality suffered. 

[hoechlbear]

Or maybe there are some folks who just can't identify as that particular protagonist and have zero interest in 'his' story. I'm one of those folks - might be a great game, might be a terrible one, but it doesn't really matter because I've already lived most of my life role-playing as 'brooding introspective but likable white male hero with awesome hair #1' and frankly, I'm over it. So what you are interpreting as hate is really just indifference to a world we can't insert ourselves into with a player character we can't identify as. 

 

Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that style of gameplay. It just means that you are going to get fans in these forums who are here for all the reasons that Dragon age and Mass effect aren't like TW3. 

 

That's fine and all, but I'm not sure why you felt the need to go into defensive mode when I said "some people" and not "all". There are some people who hate TW3 on principle, without having even tried it. I'm sorry but to talk trash about a game that you never played is something that annoys me profoundly. And it's quite obvious when you come across some of those people. Going around saying that you don't like TW3 because it has tons of sex and inappropriate stuff is just basing your opinion on rumors. And this has happened many times in the past few months in other threads.

 

I was also one of the people who thought I would never play TW because I didn't like the idea of playing as a white-haired dude, but then TW3 happened and I changed my mind. That only happened because I gave the game a chance and I didn't play it with a mindset of "TW sucks, so this is going to suck." Sure, there are some people who genuinely tried to play it and just didn't catch their interest, but like I said, it's obvious to tell the difference from those people and from those who hate TW because "sex and other inappropriate stuff".

[JosieRevisited]

That's fine and all, but I'm not sure why you felt the need to go into defensive mode when I said "some people" and not "all". There are some people who hate TW3 on principle, without having even tried it. I'm sorry but to talk trash about a game that you never played is something that annoys me profoundly. And it's quite obvious when you come across some of those people. Going around saying that you don't like TW3 because it has tons of sex and inappropriate stuff is just basing your opinion on rumors. And this has happened many times in the past few months in other threads.

 

I was also one of the people who thought I would never play TW because I didn't like the idea of playing as a white-haired dude, but then TW3 happened and I changed my mind. That only happened because I gave the game a chance and I didn't play it with a mindset of "TW sucks, so this is going to suck." Sure, there are some people who genuinely tried to play it and just didn't catch their interest, but like I said, it's obvious to tell the difference from those people and from those who hate TW because "sex and other inappropriate stuff".

 

You can thank reviewers for some of that stuff, though I don't agree that expressing a disinterest in a developer's style is 'trash talk' nor do I believe game reviews are just 'rumours'.

 

It's not entirely inaccurate to say that the game has quite a bit of very strong content ranging from graphical sex scenes to entire missions based on severely abusive relationships, not to mention a *generally* sexist overtone. From a strictly lore standpoint, it's just not interesting to a lot of folks and you don't have to spend money on a game to prove you aren't interested in it or don't like how a developer handles something. Some people like it. Some people also think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made. 

 

Anyway, this isn't a forum about the witcher. I am certain that their forums have a much more favorable view of the game if that's what you are looking for. I'm sure that there's folks on that forum that 'trash talk' BioWare games as well because of a difference in styles. 

[hoechlbear]

You can thank reviewers for some of that stuff, though I don't agree that expressing a disinterest in a developer's style is 'trash talk' nor do I believe game reviews are just 'rumours'.

 

It's not entirely inaccurate to say that the game has quite a bit of very strong content ranging from graphical sex scenes to entire missions based on severely abusive relationships, not to mention a *generally* sexist overtone. From a strictly lore standpoint, it's just not interesting to a lot of folks and you don't have to spend money on a game to prove you aren't interested in it or don't like how a developer handles something. Some people like it. Some people also think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made. 

 

You can't say you don't like a game if you never tried it. You may say it doesn't interest you and that's fine, but when people start judging a game just because they read something about it somewhere, it bothers me. Specially when it's not entirely true. One of the things people say the most is how TW3 has too much sex when that part is completely optional just like it's optional for you to go to brothels in DAO/DA2 or to romance someone. DAO has a lot of dark stuff as well, that's why I don't get when people are suddenly too sensitive and violence (among other things) bothers them. 

 

Anyway, this isn't a forum about the witcher. I am certain that their forums have a much more favorable view of the game if that's what you are looking for. 

 

I wasn't even the one bringing up TW3 in this thread. But as soon as it's mentioned, some people just feel the need to reply, trying to bring it down when they probably never even played it. But anywaay...

[DragonRageGT]

You can thank reviewers for some of that stuff, though I don't agree that expressing a disinterest in a developer's style is 'trash talk' nor do I believe game reviews are just 'rumours'.

 

It's not entirely inaccurate to say that the game has quite a bit of very strong content ranging from graphical sex scenes to entire missions based on severely abusive relationships, not to mention a *generally* sexist overtone. From a strictly lore standpoint, it's just not interesting to a lot of folks and you don't have to spend money on a game to prove you aren't interested in it or don't like how a developer handles something. Some people like it. Some people also think Game of Thrones is the greatest show ever made. 

 

Anyway, this isn't a forum about the witcher. I am certain that their forums have a much more favorable view of the game if that's what you are looking for. I'm sure that there's folks on that forum that 'trash talk' BioWare games as well because of a difference in styles. 

Wouldn't want to try make you like TW games but at least take a peek at this review. It is worthy the time
http://www.gamespot....w/1900-6416135/

 

And TW forums have a Community section where all are free to discuss Video Games. Many or most of them have their own Thread. DA:Inquisition has its own thread and people don't trash talk it. A few found it boring, some had plenty playthroughs with it and like it. We don't compare the games. ME series has it too. I'd say that most posts are extremely positive about ME but for the final 15 minutes of ME3, which wasn't much different of BSN own ME3 threads.

 

We just discuss them based on their own qualities. Or flaws. We are gamers and we love games, many different games. I am a BW fan since BG in 1998, in BW forums since 2002. With DA:O the new forum became my homepage and I was already a TW1 fan. I loved what they did with Aurora engine. That was what NWN could have been.

 

I think most people on BSN don't even consider The Witcher based on prejudice or because loving a mature medieval RPG from those Polish guys would mean they love BW less. Not true. (although I know that lots of BW fans loved TW2 and probably TW3 as I don't hear from them since the old BSN was abandoned) My love for BW games (the ones I love, true) were never diminished only because I love The Witcher games. Geralt is "one hell of a badass main character as protagonist of a trilogy that expanded the books in which his stories were first narrated." And it ended in this year GOTY awards from most important gaming award sources.

 

You can't say you don't like a game if you never tried it. You may say it doesn't interest you and that's fine, but when people start judging a game just because they read something about it somewhere, it bothers me. Specially when it's not entirely true. One of the things people say the most is how TW3 has too much sex when that part is completely optional just like it's optional for you to go to brothels in DAO/DA2 or to romance someone. DAO has a lot of dark stuff as well that's why I don't get when people are suddenly too sensitive and violence (among other things) bothers them. 

 

 

I wasn't even the one bringing up TW3 in this thread. But as soon as it's mentioned, some people just feel the need to reply, trying to bring it down when they probably never even played it. But anywaay...

 

I was the one who brought it up. I do that. We had a TW thread in old BSN forums. Why some people feel offended about other people discussing other great games is beyond my comprehension.

[JosieRevisited]

 

 

I think most people on BSN don't even consider The Witcher based on prejudice or because loving a mature medieval RPG from those Polish guys would mean they love BW less. 

 

Or.... the other reasons I mentioned. 

 

I've watched over by BFF's shoulders as he has slowly allowed it to consume his entire life. He and I practically live together and our consoles are next to each other whenever he is at my house. It's not like I haven't been exposed to TW3. Some things were kinda cool and the attention to detail is certainly there. It deserves GOTY this year for certain, especially after the.... questionable... game Bethesda tried to pass off as Fallout. However that doesn't mean it's going to appeal to everyone, all the time, without fail. Really, it feels like the actual problem is that a few don't want to accept that anyone could genuinely just not be interested in Geralt. 

 

Folks who aren't into it aren't just prejudiced against polish guys or afraid it's 'cheating' on BioWare. They just... Aren't into it. 

[Tidus]

While I have several favorite  highlights from all three DA game my favorite is Sister Leliana and Sister Morrigan.. Our favorite redheaded bard out did herself  disguising as Sisters in order to fit in and free the Warden.

 

Another that ranks next to that is meeting Sara in DA:I.. I really like her comments  " Blah,Blah, Blah obey me arrow in my face" and "In your face I'm Sera". 

[DragonRageGT]

I really like Sera in DA:I - I wonder what would she say about me losing me head! "Look at those eyes! Creepy Eyes!"

PS: So annoying that this keeps happening. Had to Hide Helmets to fix it. Blergh!