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[Heimdall]

It might have been better to set this story in some part of Thedas not yet explored and unlikely to be explored soon. Say a city in the Free Marches like Tantervale, which we aren't likely to visit.

I'd love to see a comic focused on one such location, fleshing it out with an original cast of characters and original storyline, unconnected to plot lines from the games.

[Gervaise]

Tantervale could be rather boring because apparently the majority of people there, the ruling ones at least, are devout Andrasrians and Chantry law is absolute.   I'd opt for Wycome because it is meant to be the revelry capital of Thedas so there is a lot of potential for exploring something a bit different from anything we have experienced up to now.   Wycome combined with the Grand Tourney would be awesome.

[sniper_arrow]

I never read Rucka's work outside of Magekiller, but I can tell he is talented and he is a Dragon Age fan. (Who even remembers frostrock was s thing?)
 

 

Rucka wrote one of the best Wonder Woman stories as well as Gotham Central and Batwoman.

[Heimdall]

Tantervale could be rather boring because apparently the majority of people there, the ruling ones at least, are devout Andrasrians and Chantry law is absolute. I'd opt for Wycome because it is meant to be the revelry capital of Thedas so there is a lot of potential for exploring something a bit different from anything we have experienced up to now. Wycome combined with the Grand Tourney would be awesome.

Whichever, I just like the idea of a Dragon Age comic series that takes its time and fleshes out relatively unexplored parts of Thedas (Unexplored by DA media).

Wycome might be a problem because then I'd be wondering where clan Lavellan is.

[thats1evildude]

Rucka wrote one of the best Wonder Woman stories as well as Gotham Central and Batwoman.

Not really a DC fan, personally.

[Kantr]

I wouldn't have minded 5 issues of them running around killing Blood Mages around Tevinter and showing just a little of the country. If issue 5 had ended how I think issue 3 did with them seeing the breach. That would have been a cool ending.

[sniper_arrow]

Not really a DC fan, personally.

 

Same here. Just liked his works.

[sniper_arrow]

I wouldn't have minded 5 issues of them running around killing Blood Mages around Tevinter and showing just a little of the country. If issue 5 had ended how I think issue 3 did with them seeing the breach. That would have been a cool ending.

 

This. The story was wasted the moment they went to the south.

[vbibbi]

I'm starting to think that our problem, and I don't exempt myself from this, is continually expecting that these ancillary materials will be tied to the next game in some way. We've come to expect this, of course, and past releases bear this out, but I think it is damaging expectations for what these materials can be.

 

Magekiller could very well have been, "here is a thing that happened," and was never intended to be any sort of prelude to the next game in any way.

 

All in all, I maintain that the whole series would have been better if they had just stayed in Tevinter and surrounding environs and left the Inquisition well alone. I played the damn game, I was there in the form of my Inquisitor; I don't need to read a third party accounting of events.

 

Personally, even if I didn't have the expectation that ancillary material would automatically tie in to the next game, I would have found this series a disappointment. Because, as many have pointed out, it's really just rehashing game zones for no reason when there were a lot of other locations it could have explored. I like the idea presented that they could have at least participated in some of the war table missions to unseen areas like the Nahashin Marshes or Nevarra. Having all concurrent-DAI scenes be in game locations made it feel like the comic was saying "LOOK I've played DAI too! Recognize this?!"

 

 

Mind you I wonder just how carefully the main team follow these writing projects and check them for accuracy or how invested in the game world these authors are.   In the Last Flight the writer had Garahel joke "I did once seduce a Qunari", which would be funny except for the fact that the Qunari didn't arrive in Thedas until 100 years after the 4th Blight. 

 

I think that was supposed to show that Garahel was so sexy, he jumped forward in time and seduced a member of a notoriously desexualized race. Okay, maybe not. To be fair, I would like to consider myself fairly good with overall DA lore, but I'm rubbish with timelines and never pick up on the inconsistencies presented. So the author could be a big DA fan and just have overlooked that aspect.

[thats1evildude]

Even I couldn't tell you off the top of my head when the qunari landed. I know it was after the Fourth Blight, obviously, but I don't recall the exact age.

[Qun00]

I just wanted to say... **** you Charter.

What, she feels threatened by Marius' presence and then decides to tell Tessa to ditch him?

[nightscrawl]

Even I couldn't tell you off the top of my head when the qunari landed. I know it was after the Fourth Blight, obviously, but I don't recall the exact age.

 

I rather doubt that most readers picked up on it. I didn't either. I probably just skipped over it mentally, especially since it was a joke. That's not to say that such mistakes are acceptable, but I don't think this is too huge or anything.

 

Someone I know, who does not play the games, was reading through all of the DA novels and was going along well until she got to Last Flight. She was annoyed that the use of magic was portrayed in a different way than in the previous novels. I think this is another example of how a writer familiar with the difference between game context (a game dev) and novel context can phrase things differently according to the medium.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I rather doubt that most readers picked up on it. I didn't either. I probably just skipped over it mentally, especially since it was a joke. That's not to say that such mistakes are acceptable, but I don't think this is too huge or anything.

Someone I know, who does not play the games, was reading through all of the DA novels and was going along well until she got to Last Flight. She was annoyed that the use of magic was portrayed in a different way than in the previous novels. I think this is another example of how a writer familiar with the difference between game context (a game dev) and novel context can phrase things differently according to the medium.

I'm pretty sure last flight was written by an outside writer. That's why there are no cameos from game characters.

[nightscrawl]

^ Yes, I know that. That was referenced in previous posts in the thread... In the context of my post, the meaning is supposed to be that a game dev may have written it a bit differently from a contract writer. My fault for not making that clearer, I suppose.

 

At any rate, that's not necessarily the case for game character cameos. The Warcraft novels are all written by contract writers and only feature NPCs, most of the time entire novels revolving around significant ones. And we have the case with Greg Ruka (not a dev) who wrote this comic, also inserting game characters.

 

I thought it was nice that Last Flight had nothing whatsoever to do with the games. It was a novel set in Thedas.

[Nole]

So is this comic worth it or no?

[thats1evildude]

So is this comic worth it or no?

*Wiggles hand noncommittally*

If they decide to do future issues, then yes. Otherwise ... eh.

[Andromelek]

So is this comic worth it or no?

I'd say the two first numbers at best, there is more story on the party banters between the playable agents...

[Shechinah]

I'm pretty sure last flight was written by an outside writer. That's why there are no cameos from game characters.

 

Dragon Age: Last Flight was written by Liane Merciel according to the Wikipedia and I believe it is set a good long while before the beginning of the video game series so it would be odd to find cameos barring an appearance made by Flemeth. I see what you mean, however.
 

[nightscrawl]

Dragon Age: Last Flight was written by Liane Merciel according to the Wikipedia and I believe it is set a good long while before the beginning of the video game series so it would be odd to find cameos barring an appearance made by Flemeth. I see what you mean, however.
 

 

Last Flight takes place in the present (during the start of DAI) and past. The story is told from the PoV of a new Grey Warden recruit (pre-Joining) who is newly arrived at Weisshaupt. She does research and uncovers the story surrounding the Fourth Blight and the last days of the griffons. I'd say the split is about 2/5 present and 3/5 past content.

 

Since the present bits take place at Weisshaupt there really is no reason to have any sort of cameos from game NPCs. One could stretch it and say that Hawke or whichever Warden arrived after Here Lies the Abyss, but the recruit (likely) wouldn't have any contact with them since she's just a noob. At best, she might have heard other Wardens talking about the arrival of so-and-so and hear bits of the events, but that's all. Keep in mind that it was released before DAI, so they wouldn't have those kinds of spoilers in the novel.

 

Honestly, it's just better all around that any of that was left out.

[nightscrawl]

So is this comic worth it or no?

 

It really depends on what your purpose is in reading these. If you want to absorb any and all DA content, then yes, go ahead. If you're looking for some sort of possible connection to the next game, then yes, you might as well, just in case. If you want another perspective on the Inquisition, sure, why not?

 

BUT if you were hoping for major lore reveals, or a deeper look at Tevinter, you will get most of that in the first two issues. Issue #2 ends with a certain [omitted for spoilers] event and I'd say that's a great place to stop if all you cared about is the lead up to DAI.

 

As far as comics go, I really don't know... there were aspects of this series that I found annoying and I don't recall feeling that way with the first run of comics (about Alistair and co.). If you are a comic reader, only you will know what you like and dislike, and you won't get the full perspective unless you read them.

[SeaBassChen]

Wow, that was so dumb. What a waste of $4.... I'm going to be way more careful about anymore issues of this storyline. This was one of the most anti-climactic stories I've ever bothered with. What was the point? I do hope it was to set up more of Marius and Tessa because, if not, then it really was a total waste of time. I might not be a huge Marius and Tessa fan, after all, they are pretty dull, but if they end up not being in any future issues or anything else, it really was just a stupid side story to waste my money on.

 

And here I was so excited about reading this comic book before it came out because I want more Dragon Age stuff.   Fan fic it is, then......

 

EDIT: Amazon.com has each of these issues for only $1.99! I don't think it's a sale, although it could be. I wish I had been buying these issues from there instead of DarkHorse. Just not worth the $3.99 price tag.

[nightscrawl]

EDIT: Amazon.com has each of these issues for only $1.99! I don't think it's a sale, although it could be. I wish I had been buying these issues from there instead of DarkHorse. Just not worth the $3.99 price tag.

Dark Horse was having 99 cent sales of the previous issue after the next one was released. They are all now $1.99 on DH as well.

 

This is the "price" that we all pay, and the risk we take, for consuming materials as they are released, rather than waiting until later for sales. The same applies to games, DLC, and many other things. I wasn't that crazy about it either, but I did enjoy getting to make this thread and discuss the issues at length as they were coming out.

[thats1evildude]

It did make me appreciate the comics DG wrote quite a bit more. At least they had an overarching plot.

 

I don't regret buying Magekiller early. But I definitely ain't springing for the trade.