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[Evamitchelle]

Second issue should be out January 20. Issues 3 and 4 should be February 17 and March 16.

[MisterJB]

I admit, I am here to see normal people who are not Templars killing mages.

 

Other than that, I think someone may have messed up the timeline. If I am not wrong, this was supposed to start before DAI and later issues would coincide with it?

And yet, Marius is given an issue of Swords and Shields. Now, either Varric uses the same cover for all of the issues of this particular serial, or this happens after Corypheus destroys Haven, at the very least.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Any antimage combat yet?

I'm very interested in seeing how two regular people take out reality warpers.

[MisterJB]

Any antimage combat yet?

I'm very interested in seeing how two regular people take out reality warpers.

Yeah, Marius kills, by himself, a blood mage, an Arcane Horror and three rage demons but only the fight against the blood mage is shown.

 

We see him use traps, dodging some spells, tanking others with both his body and his sword, using shoulder tackles, etc.

[Walter Black]

I always wondered why "Magekillers" on Thedas didn't just cover themselves with anti-magic runes.  Sure - they would be rare individuals, but I could easily see all the nations of Thedas employing a "special forces" with such armor and weaponry designed specifically to take down mages (with a smattering of rogue Templars). 

 

Also - you could lace your weaponry with small quantities of lyrium... dangerous for both parties to be sure, but moreso for the mage.  

 

In fact - one of these Magekillers should have been Tranquil (any possibility the silent brooding male "could" be?  Haven't read it yet.)  A Tranquil trained and focused on removing mages would be absolutely devastating (because of their abilities to handle lyrium safely mostly).  

 

And then, of course, we have Fenris... just make the runes anti-magic and you'd have someone presumably completely immune to magic.  

 

Anyway - anything that kills DA mages interests me.  

 

Templars not having special armor and weapons could partially be due to the Chantry's stifling on magical research, even for their own benifit. Not just fear, but a lack of imagination and laziness. Not to mention having Templars drink lyrium is as much to control them as well as mages. If the Order had more alternatives, there would be a lot less easy to manipulate addicts.

 

Considering how much of this story will take place in Tevinter, mage hunters would have even less resources, having to fend off properly paranoid Magisters, as well as other mundanes who would sell them out. Even Mage employers wouldn't want them to be too successful, for fear of their techniques eventually being used on them. I wouldn't be surprised to find hearing "You Have Outlived Your Usefullness", is industry standard for Mage Killers in Tevinter.

 

Fenris himself pointed pointed out that his abilities and station were rare. I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere, maybe from David Gaider, that without the proper magical maintenance that Fenris' powers would eventually kill him. Combine this, the amnesia and vast effort and material in creating just one Lyrium Ghost Warrior, maybe most Hunters don't consider it worth the effort.

[Walter Black]

Yeah, Marius kills, by himself, a blood mage, an Arcane Horror and three rage demons but only the fight against the blood mage is shown.

 

We see him use traps, dodging some spells, tanking others with both his body and his sword, using shoulder tackles, etc.

 

If Marius does appear in DA4, I wonder how much of this will be forgotten in order to pigeonhole him into a specific class spec.

[SomberXIII]

Not only does that mess with player continuity (Alistair is king), but there is also a danger of getting tired of the same people.

I like King Alistair. He's so bae. 

[Marika Haliwell]

Magekiller is actually important to the events of DAI in a story sense. From Polygon: "Magekiller will also see the rise of the Venatori, the Tevinter cult that worships and works for Dragon Age: Inquisition's villain Corypheus, with the end of issue #2 corresponding to the destruction of the Conclave, the inciting event of the game. The first arc of the series will encompass the full plot of Inquisition, however, and after that it'll be striking out into new territory for the franchise."

 

As far as reading on the DAwiki goes, I don't really feel that that gives the player an appreciation for the characters. For example, you may know that Maevaris Tilani, from the first run comics, is a transwoman, but to see how that is revealed, her personality, how she interacts with Varric, are part of the character that you miss out on if you don't read it.

 

But if you're totally not interested, that I can appreciate your not wanting to buy. I'm not a comic person, and the only reason I buy these is for Dragon Age alone.

I wasn't a comic book person until 15 minutes ago I bought the comic .. when is the next one???? Also bought the first 6 with Alistair lol.. ended my money on paypal ..

[Marika Haliwell]

Second issue should be out January 20. Issues 3 and 4 should be February 17 and March 16.

got my answer , thank you I like both protagonists ! I think Marius is more than he lets show for now.

[robertmarilyn]

I wasn't a comic book person until 15 minutes ago I bought the comic .. when is the next one???? Also bought the first 6 with Alistair lol.. ended my money on paypal ..

 

I'm not a comic book person either but shucks, I think you've jinxed me now that I've read that you bought all of them. I bought all the books last week and have finished two of them and have three to go...I'm pretty sure all the comics are in my future even though I can't really get into reading the previews. If you guys would be very thorough in spoiling all the comics for me, maybe I can refrain from buying them. I must say, I don't regret buying the books. 

[Gervaise]

The answer to the Swords and Shields problem is that probably Varric did use the same cover for the copy he gave to Cassandra as for the previous issue.   There wouldn't have been any artwork for a new cover because he says he wasn't going to continue writing the series, because the earlier issues had made so little money.    The edition he did for Cassandra was a one off and Varric is an author, not an artist.

[MisterJB]

That elven slave, Flavius, is interesting.

He is a slave but he is better dressed than many of the free commoners we see, appears content and even has enough pride to look down on Tessa, a free human.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

I'm hooked. Archon Redonis dresses funny. I wonder if Marius has some kind of special skill that makes him so efficient at killing mages, besides determination.

[thats1evildude]

I'm hooked. Archon Redonis dresses funny. I wonder if Marius has some kind of special skill that makes him so efficient at killing mages, besides determination.

 

There must be something going on. I doubt most people could walk out of a warehouse with an arcane horror and at least three rage demons with a few burns.

 

I sort of wonder about that scar on his chest. Something implanted in him, maybe?

[SwobyJ]

The writer also has greatly demonised mages in the first comic, hopefully that will be changed later on though. There are SOME crazy people out there, but generalising EVERYONE to be a psychopath is just wrong.

I only read the preview but what I've seen so far is only a character perspective and its indeed true in DA that most unrestrained mages will do something for their power eventually.

But again, above all, this is character perspective. They're in a society where they live by mage rules but its relatively more of a domination of mundanes, even in their occupation. Tevinter isn't the realm of twirly mustaches that people claim it as, but its also often damn close.

Even as a pro-Mage, I have to accept that in the present state of the world of Thedas and its societies, most mages will be up to no good at some point, by my moral standards. And that as opposed to mundanes who can mess up but don't have the magic or tech to regularly do so on massive scale (though I can see this changing in future games), Mages come with the innate weaponry and in Tevinter, the access to apply that weaponry against others, with clear benefit to themselves.

Though DA4 will likely (IMO) counterbalance that point by making it clearer than ever that something 'magical' will have to be the key to salvation. Its always been a DA thing but it may be spread throughout DA4's narrative more than ever (not just an act).

Up for corrections since I didn't read the whole comic issue.

[SwobyJ]

There must be something going on. I doubt most people could walk out of a warehouse with an arcane horror and at least three rage demons with a few burns.
 
I sort of wonder about that scar on his chest. Something implanted in him, maybe?

I can play a Champion who solos all those things at once. Its not the regular person but there will be those with the best skills who do better than most others.

Gameplay/story segregation etc etc haha.

[thats1evildude]

Marius is probably not a Champion. He doesn't have a shield.

[SwobyJ]

Marius is probably not a Champion. He doesn't have a shield.

It was an EXAMPLE. Fill in that blank with Tempest, or even Bard. People can be strong without magic, they can kill demons and mages without magic. Just in lore, its much harder for more people, and having special abilities (like Templars have) is much more reliable in a population.

[Call Me Jord]

Completely forgot about this lol

 

Is there anywhere online in the UK I can buy a physical copy of this from? Any links would be much appreciated. 

 

Edit: Snagged a new copy, bagged and boarded from Ebay. Luckily it's from a Seller I've used in the past, and I've had perfect history for them. 

 

Thank you for any suggestions you were going to post/have posted. Once again, my patience is non-existent lol.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

There must be something going on. I doubt most people could walk out of a warehouse with an arcane horror and at least three rage demons with a few burns.

I sort of wonder about that scar on his chest. Something implanted in him, maybe?

Spoiler

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but his sword seemed to block some of the spells from the blood mage both before and after she became a arcane horror. I like your idea though, it would explain why he feels such a responsibility when it comes to eliminating blood mages.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Yeah, Marius kills, by himself, a blood mage, an Arcane Horror and three rage demons but only the fight against the blood mage is shown.

We see him use traps, dodging some spells, tanking others with both his body and his sword, using shoulder tackles, etc.

Wow. That's quite impressive.

Is he superhuman or something?

[MisterJB]

There must be something going on. I doubt most people could walk out of a warehouse with an arcane horror and at least three rage demons with a few burns.

 

I sort of wonder about that scar on his chest. Something implanted in him, maybe?

That would defeat the purpose of having people who are not Templars fighting mages and winning.

[MisterJB]

Wow. That's quite impressive.

Is he superhuman or something?

Nothing indicates so.

The fight basically goes like this. They enter, the girl is pushed against a wall by magic and the blood mage raises a barrier against Marius' attacks.

He keeps attacking to give Tessa time to free the prisioner. Then he takes a magic blast to the chest which throws him against a wall. The mage fires something simillar at Tessa but she dodges. Then Marius shoulder tackles her (the mage) and is again hit with a magical blast. The mages tries to run after Tessa but falls into a trap and her neck is nicked by some razorwire. While she is trying to use the flow for a spell, Marius runs her through.

Then the Arcane Horror appears and summons three rage demons. It launches some type of magic at Marius which he blocks with his sword and the demons throw fire.

Then we cut to outside, Marius is a bit burned but is otherwise unharmed.
 

[Marika Haliwell]

I'm not a comic book person either but shucks, I think you've jinxed me now that I've read that you bought all of them. I bought all the books last week and have finished two of them and have three to go...I'm pretty sure all the comics are in my future even though I can't really get into reading the previews. If you guys would be very thorough in spoiling all the comics for me, maybe I can refrain from buying them. I must say, I don't regret buying the books. 

buy all the comics too, they are awesome!

[thats1evildude]

That would defeat the purpose of having people who are not Templars fighting mages and winning.

 

I would argue that if he's just "a guy," that would defeat the whole point of Marius being a specialized slayer of mages. Sort of undercuts that whole "magic cheats" speech Tessa delivers at the beginning.

 

I flipped back to the short story on Calpernia and it really does imply that being trained a "magekiller" is a big deal.

 

Marius’s talents were drawing more and more attention. Even Calpernia saw he was wasted as a bodyguard. With the right training he could become a talented assassin or even a mage-killer: a source of prestige for any magister and a way to tip the political scale.