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[Treacherous J Slither]

Nothing indicates so.
The fight basically goes like this. They enter, the girl is pushed against a wall by magic and the blood mage raises a barrier against Marius' attacks.
He keeps attacking to give Tessa time to free the prisioner. Then he takes a magic blast to the chest which throws him against a wall. The mage fires something simillar at Tessa but she dodges. Then Marius shoulder tackles her (the mage) and is again hit with a magical blast. The mages tries to run after Tessa but falls into a trap and her neck is nicked by some razorwire. While she is trying to use the flow for a spell, Marius runs her through.
Then the Arcane Horror appears and summons three rage demons. It launches some type of magic at Marius which he blocks with his sword and the demons throw fire.
Then we cut to outside, Marius is a bit burned but is otherwise unharmed.

Ah I see.

I knew it would be something like this. She didn't use any abilities that would have given her a clear edge. Only weak knock back moves that the opponent can easily recover from or dodge. No area of effect moves either.

If she were smarter or more capable, she would have used spells to incapacitate like sleep or paralyze at which point she would be able to have her way with them at her leisure.

I sincerely doubt that Marius can defeat a competent mage in a straight up fight.

[MisterJB]

Evil magisters, this one could be the hero. From Tevinter point of view. 

 

I'm just pointing out the odds aren't good.

Sure, it could be interesting to follow Calpernia but world domination is not a point of view Bioware tends present as grey and relatable to.

[MisterJB]

Ah I see.

I knew it would be something like this. She didn't use any abilities that would have given her a clear edge. Only weak knock back moves that the opponent can easily recover from or dodge. No area of effect moves either.

If she were smarter or more capable, she would have used spells to incapacitate like sleep or paralyze at which point she would be able to have her way with them at her leisure.

I sincerely doubt that Marius can defeat a competent mage in a straight up fight.

 

I sincerely think you are overestimating the effectiveness of said spells or even how common they are.

The descriptions of sleep and paralyze in DAO state that both can be shrugged off if the target can pass mental and physical resistance checks. We can safely assume Marius trained to be able to do just that.

And we have never actually seen these spells used by characters outside of the PC. In the previous comics or books, whenever a mage wanted to imobillize someone, they would resort to vines or tendrils of darkness that wrapped around the victim.

 

The mage in this comic WAS a blood mage and while that does not necessarely translate into competence, it does translate into power. (see Jowan)

 

[leaguer of one]

Ah I see.
I knew it would be something like this. She didn't use any abilities that would have given her a clear edge. Only weak knock back moves that the opponent can easily recover from or dodge. No area of effect moves either.
If she were smarter or more capable, she would have used spells to incapacitate like sleep or paralyze at which point she would be able to have her way with them at her leisure.
I sincerely doubt that Marius can defeat a competent mage in a straight up fight.

No. Those attacks were all ATTACK spells. Like the guy is on fire attack spells.

[nightscrawl]

What I would like to see if a comic about a magister thriving to make Tevinter rule Thedas once more. This smells a bit Fenris to me, not that he wasn´t a good character. Just that all of these apologetic stories how evil mages are, and Tevinter mages in general, are starting to become boring.

The latest game and comic series were about killing magisters who were trying to take over the world.

Geez people, we've only had one issue and haven't even gotten into the meat of the story yet.
 
 

Has the Archon been revealed as evil or good or simply neutral with regard to his ethics?

I couldn't tell if this was rhetorical, or not. In case not, the Archon has only had one line so far, so we can't really tell anything on that front. Hopefully more next issue.

As far as your other points, knowing what we know of Tevinter, their politics, and the altus in general, I'm more inclined to go along with the "self serving" route. But you know, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" only gets you so far. As we see from Dorian's remarks in Trespasser, it didn't get the Inquisitor very far at all...

 

What I find to be a bit of a shame, even if I understand the practical game dev reasons for it, is that there isn't any variation for taking all of the (more or less) pro Tevinter choices on the war table. I would have liked some acknowledgement as far as that's concerned.

[Treacherous J Slither]

I sincerely think you are overestimating the effectiveness of said spells or even how common they are.
The descriptions of sleep and paralyze in DAO state that both can be shrugged off if the target can pass mental and physical resistance checks. We can safely assume Marius trained to be able to do just that.
And we have never actually seen these spells used by characters outside of the PC. In the previous comics or books, whenever a mage wanted to imobillize someone, they would resort to vines or tendrils of darkness that wrapped around the victim.
 
The mage in this comic WAS a blood mage and while that does not necessarely translate into competence, it does translate into power. (see Jowan)

Spells from a blood mage should be quite difficult to shrug off I think.

But nope. That's not what happens.

This guy Marius kinda makes Templars seem unnecessary huh? As far as lyrium usage goes. There's no need to become hopelessly addicted to lyrium when you can instead simply train yourself to shrug off spells cast by blood mages.

Yeah. Okay. >_>

[MisterJB]

Spells from a blood mage should be quite difficult to shrug off I think.

But nope. That's not what happens.

This guy Marius kinda makes Templars seem unnecessary huh? As far as lyrium usage goes. There's no need to become hopelessly addicted to lyrium when you can instead simply train yourself to shrug off spells cast by blood mages.

Yeah. Okay. >_>

 

I'm sorry canon material does not live up to your notions of how powerful mages are but it is what it is.

Do not let bitterness interfere with logic. The Warden and Hawke and the Inquisitor can all shrug off spells. Does this make Templars unnecessary?

No, because these are rare individuals. Templars can be mass produced since, even if you don't receive their extensive martial training, just being able to deny mana gives the meanest commoner the advantage.

[leaguer of one]

Spells from a blood mage should be quite difficult to shrug off I think.
But nope. That's not what happens.
This guy Marius kinda makes Templars seem unnecessary huh? As far as lyrium usage goes. There's no need to become hopelessly addicted to lyrium when you can instead simply train yourself to shrug off spells cast by blood mages.
Yeah. Okay. >_>

This is guy trained to be an anti blood mage fighter by mage with a culture of using blood magic. Ofcousre it wouldmbe more effective then temples training for the south who only deal with mostly normal mages.

Dai made it a point lyrium is not need to use temples abilities.

[Gervaise]

Back in Origins Alistair suggested that much of the Templar abilities were really down to training and discipline; the lyrium simply enhanced them and was really an excuse to keep them under control of the Chantry.   However, at that time he stated that he had never taken lyrium, having left the order before he reached that point in his training, so it appeared that his assertion might be correct as he was using Templar abilities.

 

Then this impression was changed in subsequent games and I believe by clarification from DG that in fact Alistair was mildly addicted to lyrium and still had to take it.   Certainly Evangeline in Asunder seemed to have specific magic nulling abilities that would be hard to credit to simple training.   Now we know from Cullen that it is possible to kick the lyrium habit and still retain your sanity, so does he still have his Templar abilities?   

 

So I would guess that the ability to shrug off the affects of spells may well be something that can be acquired through vigorous mental discipline but the ability to actually block the mage's spell casting ability and shut off their spells whilst still active (as Evangeline does) would only be possible with lyrium.    So if this Marius has high willpower and extensive mental training (so he is able to fight on through the pain), then he would be able to shrug off the affects of spells cast by a relatively low level mage, even using blood magic.   After all mages vary in ability and often resort to blood magic as a short cut to power they could not otherwise wield.    Whether he would be as successful against a high level naturally gifted Magister will no doubt be made clearer in future episodes.

[Fredward]

I know this just started but Bioware's reliance on 'archetypes' is definitely showing. The two protags are so stock it hurts. I also don't know if it's standard behavior in comics but I'm not overly fond of the overuse of bolding/italics  because I read these words as if they're emphasized differently which makes Tessa seem really weird.

 

And this is coming from someone who italicizes his words quite liberally.

[Wulfram]

I know this just started but Bioware's reliance on 'archetypes' is definitely showing. The two protags are so stock it hurts. I also don't know if it's standard behavior in comics but I'm not overly fond of the overuse of bolding/italics  because I read these words as if they're emphasized differently which makes Tessa seem really weird.
 
And this is coming from someone who italicizes his words quite liberally.

Its not written by Bioware, but by an established comic book writer, Greg Rucka.

[nightscrawl]

...and I believe by clarification from DG that in fact Alistair was mildly addicted to lyrium and still had to take it.

Please do not post things like this without a source. -_-

 

 

I know this just started but Bioware's reliance on 'archetypes' is definitely showing. The two protags are so stock it hurts. I also don't know if it's standard behavior in comics but I'm not overly fond of the overuse of bolding/italics  because I read these words as if they're emphasized differently which makes Tessa seem really weird.

 

And this is coming from someone who italicizes his words quite liberally.

 

From what I've observed, it is a common device in comics to bold words for emphasis. That said, I've noticed that the words chosen don't always make sense, especially if they are in conversation. I find it annoying as well, but just have to ignore it.

[leaguer of one]

Back in Origins Alistair suggested that much of the Templar abilities were really down to training and discipline; the lyrium simply enhanced them and was really an excuse to keep them under control of the Chantry.   However, at that time he stated that he had never taken lyrium, having left the order before he reached that point in his training, so it appeared that his assertion might be correct as he was using Templar abilities.
 
Then this impression was changed in subsequent games and I believe by clarification from DG that in fact Alistair was mildly addicted to lyrium and still had to take it.   Certainly Evangeline in Asunder seemed to have specific magic nulling abilities that would be hard to credit to simple training.   Now we know from Cullen that it is possible to kick the lyrium habit and still retain your sanity, so does he still have his Templar abilities?   
 
So I would guess that the ability to shrug off the affects of spells may well be something that can be acquired through vigorous mental discipline but the ability to actually block the mage's spell casting ability and shut off their spells whilst still active (as Evangeline does) would only be possible with lyrium.    So if this Marius has high willpower and extensive mental training (so he is able to fight on through the pain), then he would be able to shrug off the affects of spells cast by a relatively low level mage, even using blood magic.   After all mages vary in ability and often resort to blood magic as a short cut to power they could not otherwise wield.    Whether he would be as successful against a high level naturally gifted Magister will no doubt be made clearer in future episodes.

Age in, dai already stated they don't need lyrium.

[Treacherous J Slither]

I'm sorry canon material does not live up to your notions of how powerful mages are but it is what it is.
Do not let bitterness interfere with logic. The Warden and Hawke and the Inquisitor can all shrug off spells. Does this make Templars unnecessary?
No, because these are rare individuals. Templars can be mass produced since, even if you don't receive their extensive martial training, just being able to deny mana gives the meanest commoner the advantage.

The player character and their colleagues are all special snowflakes that get away with anything and everything. I don't think they're a good example.

But you're right. I was expecting too much.

Still don't think he can defeat a competent mage straight up. But we'll see.

[Heimdall]

Read it, it was way too exposition heavy and so far the characters aren't grabbing me.

It was interesting to see the Archon at least. I have hope that it will get better as the characters and their past are fleshed out, but this issue was almost entirely setup and it was dull.

[nightscrawl]

Read it, it was way too exposition heavy and so far the characters aren't grabbing me.

It was interesting to see the Archon at least. I have hope that it will get better as the characters and their past are fleshed out, but this issue was almost entirely setup and it was dull.

 

I'm also not a fan of huge info dumps right off the bat, so I do think that was the main failing. On the other hand, it can be nice to get it all out of the way so we can focus on the action, in addition to the reveal of fun/interesting nuggets of background information for the characters.

[The Baconer]

Nothing indicates so.

The fight basically goes like this. They enter, the girl is pushed against a wall by magic and the blood mage raises a barrier against Marius' attacks.

He keeps attacking to give Tessa time to free the prisioner. Then he takes a magic blast to the chest which throws him against a wall. The mage fires something simillar at Tessa but she dodges. Then Marius shoulder tackles her (the mage) and is again hit with a magical blast. The mages tries to run after Tessa but falls into a trap and her neck is nicked by some razorwire. While she is trying to use the flow for a spell, Marius runs her through.

Then the Arcane Horror appears and summons three rage demons. It launches some type of magic at Marius which he blocks with his sword and the demons throw fire.

Then we cut to outside, Marius is a bit burned but is otherwise unharmed.
 

 

Hmm... I was hoping it would be a bit more tactical and specialized than tank-n-spank. 

[Dai Grepher]

So who is the Archon's target? Will it be Calpernia? Based on Inquisition, the Archon is fully against the Venatori, even if he doesn't want to be the one fighting them directly. There is a chore table mission where he asks the Inquisition to deal with Venatori on the border of Tevinter and Nevarra.

 

And if this comic includes events from Inquisition, then going after Calpernia makes sense because she was deeply involved in the Venatori activities.

 

The only other target I can think of worthy of the Archon's assassination attempt is Alexius. The problem is that whatever story the comic features will likely conflict with people's world states. Unless it only covers up to the point where Alexius uses time magic to go back in time and trick the mages in Redcliffe.

[Heimdall]

I'm also not a fan of huge info dumps right off the bat, so I do think that was the main failing. On the other hand, it can be nice to get it all out of the way so we can focus on the action, in addition to the reveal of fun/interesting nuggets of background information for the characters.

That is my hope.

So who is the Archon's target? Will it be Calpernia? Based on Inquisition, the Archon is fully against the Venatori, even if he doesn't want to be the one fighting them directly. There is a chore table mission where he asks the Inquisition to deal with Venatori on the border of Tevinter and Nevarra.

And if this comic includes events from Inquisition, then going after Calpernia makes sense because she was deeply involved in the Venatori activities.

The only other target I can think of worthy of the Archon's assassination attempt is Alexius. The problem is that whatever story the comic features will likely conflict with people's world states. Unless it only covers up to the point where Alexius uses time magic to go back in time and trick the mages in Redcliffe.

Well, Corypheus was in Tevinter for a brief time. We could see a failed assassination attempt of the Conductor himself.

Ultimately though I think we'll see Marius and his friend sent after Venatori sympathizers and supporters that never went south and we've never heard of. I don't think the Archon wants them for just one death.

[nightscrawl]

So who is the Archon's target? Will it be Calpernia? Based on Inquisition, the Archon is fully against the Venatori, even if he doesn't want to be the one fighting them directly. There is a chore table mission where he asks the Inquisition to deal with Venatori on the border of Tevinter and Nevarra.
 
And if this comic includes events from Inquisition, then going after Calpernia makes sense because she was deeply involved in the Venatori activities.
 
The only other target I can think of worthy of the Archon's assassination attempt is Alexius. The problem is that whatever story the comic features will likely conflict with people's world states. Unless it only covers up to the point where Alexius uses time magic to go back in time and trick the mages in Redcliffe.

 
Greg Rucka stated that he "wants to make sure that Magekiller feels like it could fit within anyone's playthrough, despite the variety of decisions that make up a given player's version of events."
 
The comic has the lead up to Inquisition and the Conclave explosion, which this part covers, then covers the whole timeline of the game, and then will branch out on its own after that point. I think once the Inquisition gets started, if our two protagonists are still in the North then there won't be much conflict with player choices because all of those necessary players will be in the South -- Samson, Calpernia, Alexius, Corypheus, Erimond, and so on.
 
As for these first issues that are pre-Inquisition, he can basically write anything and it won't conflict with player choices.

I suppose it's worth noting that, when this current arc is done we may finally have a definitive answer to how long the main game takes place. Or not, depending on how specific Rucka decides to be. The current maximum time, with starting in 9:41, + two year gap, and then the Exalted Council (Trespasser) in 9:44 only allows for a window of 1 year, 11 months, or shorter depending on various factors.
 
 

That is my hope.Well, Corypheus was in Tevinter for a brief time. We could see a failed assassination attempt of the Conductor himself.

Ultimately though I think we'll see Marius and his friend sent after Venatori sympathizers and supporters that never went south and we've never heard of. I don't think the Archon wants them for just one death.

This would be quite interesting and would also really expand on Corypheus as the antagonist of DAI, since we got to see him so sparingly. I'd also really like to see the political side of the Venatori, which were were given hints of with those Dorian war table missions involving Maevaris.

[Dean_the_Young]

I would not be disappointed to see a Magekiller specialization in DA4.

 

It'd be a nice alternative to Templar.

 

Or maybe even a rogue-class specialization. Just to mix things up a bit.
 

[TK514]

It'd be a nice alternative to Templar.

 

Or maybe even a rogue-class specialization. Just to mix things up a bit.
 

 

Rogue was just what I was thinking, actually.

[Fredward]

His use of traps had me thinking rogue but then he also used a shield.

[AresKeith]

It'd be a nice alternative to Templar.

 

Or maybe even a rogue-class specialization. Just to mix things up a bit.
 

 

It would be nice if Warriors got new things for a change

 

Especially after DAI where rogues got 2 new specializations and Mages got all 3 new ones

[nightscrawl]

His use of traps had me thinking rogue but then he also used a shield.

 

I kind of assumed that those were set up by Tessa, since she seems like the rogue-type in the party.