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[Sylvius the Mad]

As long as we actually get to choose Ryder's behaviour (rather than have to watch it to find out what it is after the fact), that will be fine.

[shodiswe]

Wasn't that a popular movie?  Saving Private Ryder...or am I thinking about When Harry Met Ryder.

Ryan, but close enough I guess  

[SKAR]

Ryan, but close enough I guess

I thought it was a joke.

[Oni Changas]

I'll take Guy Pierce in Lockout over a Nathan Drake. Or better yet, Tony Curran's Datak Tarr. 

[SKAR]

Spike Spiegel with a little bit of Thane and Kogami from psychopass.

[Sylvius the Mad]

@Sylvius the Mad: See, this is where I disagree. I don't believe that everyone always acts in self-interest. I don't subscribe to the: "Good deeds are actually selfish." philosophy... I'm edgy, but I'm not THAT edgy (sorry Arcian, I know, I disappoint) It is actually an intrinsic element to my misanthropy. I wouldn't dislike humanity so much if I believed they had no agency.

Their selfishness is a necessary consequence of their agency.

What is free will? Independent agents act as they choose because they prefer to do so. They might, on the surface, appear to be helping others, but if you ask why enough times the answer is always going to be based on individual preferences. People do good things because it makes them.feel better, or because not doing them makes them feel worse (this is the basis of the Train Problem). People act as they do because they want to. Self-interest drives all of it, all the time.

The divide between selfishness and selflessness is illusory, just as the divide between natural and unnatural is.

Also... not a nihilist. You're getting your Philosophy 101 terms mixed up. I believe life has great meaning... which is why I find such disappointment with humans.

I've never understood nihilism. Why would a person believe in nothingness? Doesn't skepticism produce generally the same result? Why make that extra unsupported leap?

And regarding the discussion of recycling, I trust each of us is aware that the marginal impact of one person's recycling is effectively zero.

[Sartoz]

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The prequel novel may give the background information that many seem to crave. It is the best vehicle to provide such details whereas the game must be designed to be an action, shooter RPG suitable for newbies to the IP and for players of ME1-3.

 

We know that Ryder is combat trained but also untested.  At this point we don't know if she's military, scientist, part of the "ruling" body or just the Tempest's captain. Either way, she is in charge and the "untested" is probably her new role in assuming the leadership mantle.

 

We can infer something about her persona. The Behind the Scenes video gives us a clue... She leads from the front.

 

 

[Helios969]

Ryan, but close enough I guess

Oh, yeah, forgot. Batman and Ryder.

[ssanyesz]

I'd be against Ryder being a Lieutenant or a Sergeant, because he or she is probably going to be in command of a space ship. Both of those ranks would be too low for the role he/she would be in. If the protagonist is military and in command of a ship, their rank should be either Lt. Commander, Staff Commander, or Captain. 

 

Or some sh*t happens and he/she will be the next in rank. So we can be a rookie soldier who just got promoted, because hibernation chamber failure or something and all the higher ups die, yet our goal remains the same, so we begin to explore/colonize/conquer Andromeda as we see fit.

 

Ryder rise to power just like in DA2, just with more options to play with, i hope.

 

Also i hope Ryder's personality will not have anything to do with his/her actions. Like he can be an agressive jerk, but always do the right thing, or a nice looking modest person, who makes decisions like destroying a race/planet without flinching an eye. Wonder if i can play a Joker Ryder, joking then bam, shoot someone in the head, oops. Witty with a bit of psycho.

 

Sadly i often found DAI's Inquisitor very sappy or bland/suave, but i didnt want him to be, it didn't match the character i had in mind for him.

 

BW should abandone these forced emotions on the PC, because it really breaks my characters, like ME3's child...Or Inquisitor the crybaby.

[Medhia_Nox]

Their selfishness is a necessary consequence of their agency.

What is free will? Independent agents act as they choose because they prefer to do so. They might, on the surface, appear to be helping others, but if you ask why enough times the answer is always going to be based on individual preferences. People do good things because it makes them.feel better, or because not doing them makes them feel worse (this is the basis of the Train Problem). People act as they do because they want to. Self-interest drives all of it, all the time.

The divide between selfishness and selflessness is illusory, just as the divide between natural and unnatural is.
I've never understood nihilism. Why would a person believe in nothingness? Doesn't skepticism produce generally the same result? Why make that extra unsupported leap?

And regarding the discussion of recycling, I trust each of us is aware that the marginal impact of one person's recycling is effectively zero.

 

A relatively pointless statement since everything man made is illusory.  

 

People who refuse to make a distinction between someone who takes the time out to consider other people's feelings and then accommodate those feelings even when inconvenient for personal want... and someone who just indulges in every personal whim regardless of how it inconveniences others - is either purposefully obtuse or an ignorant lout.  

 

The same with someone who cannot distinguish between naturally occurring event - and those that require a laundry list of pre-meditated events by a conscious brain.  Unless the universe is conscious and premeditating.  And - of course - naturally occurring events are non-illusory unlike - say, the value of gold.  Or the worth of a shelter. Or the merit of video games.  

 

People who think everyone is selfish regardless of actions just needs an excuse for their own self-serving behaviors.  

 

People who embrace every human concept as natural simply want to take no responsibility for the destructive actions of their species.  Why not ****** on the world - it's my nature!  Bullcrap... the way of every destructive fantasy race ever designed - was the path of least resistance for Earth humans.

 

But - these are not concepts of any worth discussing on the internet.  You have your opinions and they are sacrosanct to you.   

[Sylvius the Mad]

A relatively pointless statement since everything man made is illusory.

People who refuse to make a distinction between someone who takes the time out to consider other people's feelings and then accommodate those feelings even when inconvenient for personal want... and someone who just indulges in every personal whim regardless of how it inconveniences others - is either purposefully obtuse or an ignorant lout.

I try to deconstruct these ideas to determine what their source is. If people hold some distinction to be relevant, I want to know what makes it relevant.

For example:

The same with someone who cannot distinguish between naturally occurring event - and those that require a laundry list of pre-meditated events by a conscious brain. Unless the universe is conscious and premeditating.

Is a conscious brain not a naturally occurring phenomenon? Why should we treat its actions differently?

If a claim has prescriptive force, I want to know why. Lacking an explanation based on actual evidence, I'm going to remain skeptical.

As I am about everything.

[Lumix19]

People must be bored if this is what they're talking about.

[Draining Dragon]

Every Ryder sentence has words. Sometimes three words. Or two. And they're great sentences. Terrific sentences. That I can tell you. Believe me. They're great. With the best words. Terrific repeated words. Not very big words. Every Ryder sentence has words.

[ViSeiRa]

On the topic of Ryder's rank:

 

You are a pathfinder, a combat trained but un-tested explorer leading an expedition into the Helius cluster to establish a new home for humanity.

 

This is from the Reddit survery leak, combat trained? almost confirms military origin. leading an expedition? a high ranking officer at the least.

 

I'd prefer Captain or Major... Commander Ryder does sound like a mouthful.

[SKAR]

On the topic of Ryder's rank:


This is from the Reddit survery leak, combat trained? almost confirms military origin. leading an expedition? a high ranking officer at the least.

I'd prefer Captain or Major... Commander Ryder does sound like a mouthful.

Sounds good buddy. Of course we have a military background. Soldiers.in the military have the best combat training so it's only logical to choose from the military. I'm assuming our affiliation is now with the ARKCON initiative so maybe Pathfinder Ryder. Instead of like "The commander" We'll be the pathfinder. I do like Major and Captain.

[ViSeiRa]

Sounds good buddy. Of course we have a military background. I'm assuming our affiliation is with the ARKCON initiative so maybe Pathfinder Ryder. Instead of like The commander We'll be the pathfinder.

 

Pathfinder isn't a rank though, it's more like a title... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[SKAR]

Pathfinder isn't a rank though, it's more like a title... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

So is inquistor. Well we aren't strictly military as it seems. We are explorers now. Probably have a background in N7 as was stated back in 2014. We'll see.