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[JiaJM98]

After 1.09 any weapon you using is good as long as it's Hakkon's.

Lol great comment.

[BA_Productions]

Actually for me Hunter is more DPS than the Archer. I am using a Hakkons though. All i do with my hunter (on perilous atleast) is run up to the enemy and insta kill them with one shot (3 arrows total). I cannot do this on the Archer simply because he doesn't have the same passive for more damage (one that gives 25% more damage when you are within 10 meters of the target). Archer takes 2 upclose shots, while Hunter takes 1.

[JanTwardowski]

Thank you for your help

[3y3Vr3]

I often get self rez (most of the time), if I do go down, so long as I am over a certain level (the jacks are a bit paultry when below double digits in level ). BTW, I give full credit to @3y3vr3 for suggesting the Upgraded Caltrops, for this build. Now I absolutely love them.

Glad you like it. And I love to see you self rez again and again. In Luka's voice : " That was fun "
While spike trap is great, caltrops has its own charm: it can do critical damage for every second when the enemies are slowed and bleeding. So with high critical damage/critic chance from a good bow(ideally hakkon) and accessories/passives/promotes, it's a lot of Aoe damage over time. With the updated version sometimes there is even no need to shoot at the mobs: just litter them at spawn points/choke points and they'll die themselves

Maybe it's not necessary in perilous and below, but I find cheap shot useful in NM. Actually any form of armor penetration/sundering is helpful for my archer in NM cuz I don't have the oh-so-good hakkon bow I use heartstrings bow instead. Decent damage with upgrades, and it helps archer survive in NM

[JiaJM98]

Actually for me Hunter is more DPS than the Archer. I am using a Hakkons though. All i do with my hunter (on perilous atleast) is run up to the enemy and insta kill them with one shot (3 arrows total). I cannot do this on the Archer simply because he doesn't have the same passive for more damage (one that gives 25% more damage when you are within 10 meters of the target). Archer takes 2 upclose shots, while Hunter takes 1.

Hmm... Interesting. So you suggest that you do more damage from basic attack spam compared to leap shot spam? O_O

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Hmm... Interesting. So you suggest that you do more damage from basic attack spam compared to leap shot spam? O_O

Off course,you didn't know that?

[DrakeHasNoFlow]

Hunter is better in nm/hb than archer because long shot and Mark of death are no longer op.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Hunter is better in nm/hb than archer because long shot and Mark of death are no longer op.

I was playing Archer in NM with Long Shot and it does fantastic. I killed fast and drew most of the aggro which left others open to kill without fear of getting attacked

[Campout King]

Archer, the nuker of nukes at low promotes. And you can survive longer....

The passives are over all better than the hunter.

When built properly you can Leap shot your way to completion if need be

[TheLeakestWink]

The Acher is just a giant pain...

[Snakebite]

Hunter is better in nm/hb than archer because long shot and Mark of death are no longer op.

 

Who cares?  Looked Like it Hurt and Opportunity Knocks still make him 100% broken.  Archer = OG Silent Sister.

[DrakeHasNoFlow]

I was playing Archer in NM with Long Shot and it does fantastic. I killed fast and drew most of the aggro which left others open to kill without fear of getting attacked

Yes, but your a little overpromoted...

[coldsteelblue]

I'd probably say that the Hunter was better over all, yes Archer does have opportunity knocks, but if you're in a group with low cunning, or not even a full group, you can find yourself on the wrong end of a pounding, at least if hunter gets too much aggro he can stealth if need be.

 

Just my thoughts.

[Snakebite]

if you're in a group with low cunning

 

I don't understand what those words mean when put together like that.  Cunning?  Low?  Huh?

 

Seriously though, once you get to 100 cunning the Archer has much more sustainable DPS than the Hunter in most situations.  Everything should be dead by the time it has an opportunity to hit you.  Not saying he's better, just that most of the time I prefer all the ability spam available from the Archer, and that when I play the Hunter I miss it.

 

 

Yes, but you're a little overpromoted...

 

I always thought the term overpromoted was goofy.  It's far to subjective; the viewpoint is wholly dependent on what difficulty one is playing at, what class one is using, and anyone can just throw that out as an excuse why they can't do something someone else says they can.  I remember being called overpromoted when my highest stat was around 80 (others where around 70 and 60), and all advice I tried giving to that person was shrugged off as drivel from some "overpromoted leaderboarder".  "What do you mean you don't use Shield Wall on your Legionnaire?  You can only survive because you are overpromoted.  That won't work for people who don't have such high promotions."  I guarantee that when that person reached the same level of promotions that they once claimed were "overpromoted", they just looked farther up the promotion chain and claimed that the people up there are overpromoted, but that they were still nowhere near it.

 

 

But seriously Bruh, you are overpromoted. 

[Campout King]

I'd probably say that the Hunter was better over all, yes Archer does have opportunity knocks, but if you're in a group with low cunning, or not even a full group, you can find yourself on the wrong end of a pounding, at least if hunter gets too much aggro he can stealth if need be.

Just my thoughts.

If using stealth for that probably should drop down a lvl.

Somebody is going to get blue falconed

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I always thought the term overpromoted was goofy. It's far to subjective; the viewpoint is wholly dependent on what difficulty one is playing at, what class one is using, and anyone can just throw that out as an excuse why they can't do something someone else says they can. I remember being called overpromoted when my highest stat was around 80 (others where around 70 and 60), and all advice I tried giving to that person was shrugged off as drivel from some "overpromoted leaderboarder". "What do you mean you don't use Shield Wall on your Legionnaire? You can only survive because you are overpromoted. That won't work for people who don't have such high promotions." I guarantee that when that person reached the same level of promotions that they once claimed were "overpromoted", they just looked farther up the promotion chain and claimed that the people up there are overpromoted, but that they were still nowhere near it.


But seriously Bruh, you are overpromoted.

I agree with this.
With Archer I am able to "tank" with longshots aggro because of, and yes you guessed it, constitution. It helped the whole team.
And if I am over promoted (270/309/200) then idk what to called people like SpaceV3gan and RockTheUniverse when they played. Their stats were ridiculously higher than mine. xD

[coldsteelblue]

If using stealth for that probably should drop down a lvl.

Somebody is going to get blue falconed

 

What do you mean by blue falconed?

 

But, no, I don't normally use stealth for avoiding aggro, but more for setting myself up in general, I merely meant it was a viable tactic if things went a bit wrong, I think I should've worded my post better.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

What do you mean by blue falconed?

Buddy F*cked

[JiaJM98]

I agree with this.
With Archer I am able to "tank" with longshots aggro because of, and yes you guessed it, constitution. It helped the whole team.
And if I am over promoted (270/309/200) then idk what to called people like SpaceV3gan and RockTheUniverse when they played. Their stats were ridiculously higher than mine. xD

Anyone above 30/30/30 is over promoted.

[Cannon]

I always thought the term overpromoted was goofy.

 

It is not!.. The main reason for it because devs don't bother to put a cap for promotions or attack/health. That means that you have limitless ability to evolve, but on the other side your enemies have only 5 levels of fixed attack/health, When you get to the point where you don't want or can't up the level to challenge yourself you'll start getting overpromoted for that difficulty.

 

Can definitely say if you have more than 100/100/100 or 300 overall stats consider yourself overpromoted for DAMP.

 

"What do you mean you don't use Shield Wall on your Legionnaire?  You can only survive because you are overpromoted.  That won't work for people who don't have such high promotions."

 

Make sense: more stats you have less def. abilities you need. Especially when PI amulet come on the scene.

 

I guarantee that when that person reached the same level of promotions that they once claimed were "overpromoted", they just looked farther up the promotion chain and claimed that the people up there are overpromoted, but that they were still nowhere near it.

 

Someone just more overpromoted than you that's it, it doesn't make you not overpromoted.

[Silversmurf]

Anyone above 30/30/30 is over promoted.

 

Awwww you edited your post.

 

Was about to ask what someone is with 500/846/561   (No it's not me and never will be lol)     Looney Tunes ?

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Love the name Smurf xD

[JiaJM98]

Awwww you edited your post.

Was about to ask what someone is with 500/846/561 (No it's not me and never will be lol) Looney Tunes ?

I guess thats 561 cunning? Hell someone has been wasting their time...

Just imagine what you can achieve with 1200 willpower.

[Silversmurf]

I guess thats 561 cunning? Hell someone has been wasting their time...

Just imagine what you can achieve with 1200 willpower.

 

I did tell him.  He loves Hunter and Archer for quick games.

 

Not that it really matters, OP doesn't even begin to describe 846 willpower..... 

 

He said something about 15k spirit blades....  so I dunno

[JiaJM98]

Can definitely say if you have more than 100/100/100 or 300 overall stats consider yourself overpromoted for DAMP.

Nope. I'm just about this much promotes and I can definitely say it's not anywhere near overpowered lol.

At this promotion, I feel I can just about make a dent on HB in a decent team and feel comfortable pugging NM.