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Greetings!

 

I was wondering what you guys thinks of the new faces the recurring characters has? Personally I think they did a good job overall, Morrigan is probably the one in which I think is done the best. It looked just like her and I had no trouble recognizing her. Tho I couldn't recognize Cullen or Flemeth I actually think they look much better and their new *face* fits them rather well, even Loghain looks surprisingly good. 

However I was disappointed with Alistair, I didn't even recognize him when he entered the Tavern (king here, married to Anora, default world state as I was stupid enough to ignore the Dragon Keep) first when the dialogue told me it was Alistair (half deaf plus hadn't heard his voice for years) and I don't think his new face fits him at all, I feel like they removed his charm, or is it just me being used to him like he was in Origins? I did have him romanced, hard to resist. He feels like a different character, even saw some videos on youtube with him being the Grey Warden and it still didn't feel like him. I am alone here?

 

Beside Alistair, I think they did a really good job on both the new as well as the old face. But what are your thoughts here? 


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The only one I'm kinda disappointed in is FemHawke. She doesn't really look like Hawke from DA2. Maybe it's just me. Everyone else is gravy.

 

Except for maybe Bann Teagan. Dude... what's wrong with your faaaaace?


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The only one I'm kinda disappointed in is FemHawke. She doesn't really look like Hawke from DA2. Maybe it's just me. Everyone else is gravy.

 

Except for maybe Bann Teagan. Dude... what's wrong with your faaaaace?

 

Had to google him as the name a rang a bell in Origins but not DA:I I was like waaaaaaat o.O plus since when did he get to become so grumpy? 



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Having two parties wage war on your lands for the past few years, as well as the general state of "OH ****" will probably do wonders to your face. And I don't mean that in a good way.



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Morrigan and Varric haven't changed much. I do custom Hawkes so, none of mine look like the default anyway but, it is a bit tricky to get even a custom Hawke to look close to the DA2 Hawke they are meant to be.

 

Leliana hasn't changed too much, a bit but for the better.

 

Cullen, he's changed a lot but, he looks good now and, trying to invent a plausible headcannon for his new scar is fun.


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The only one I'm kinda disappointed in is FemHawke. She doesn't really look like Hawke from DA2. Maybe it's just me. Everyone else is gravy.

 

Except for maybe Bann Teagan. Dude... what's wrong with your faaaaace?

 

Poor Bann Teagan looks like he's come down with some kind of wasting away disease.  :huh:

 

All my custom Hawkes are so annoying since I can't seem to make them anything but ugly.  :mellow:


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I was displease overall. It started with Cassandra. I didn't like her original version, but then they fixed it, and the same with Josephine. I was satisfied with the final version of Cassandra. She could have been a little more like her DA2 version, but I'm fine with how it turned out.

 

My next demand was that they just not make Anora ugly. Even if she wasn't exact, or even if she was given signs of aging, fine. Just don't make her ugly. That's all I wanted for her. Well, I got my wish. They didn't make Anora ugly, but she didn't look as she should have. But again, can't complain. They didn't make her ugly, so that's all I cared about. My Herald went to Therinfall anyway.

 

Alistair's face isn't right as king. It's closer to what it should be if he's a Warden, but still not quite right.

 

Loghain's face is flat out terrible. Looks nothing like him.

 

Arl Teagan's face is horrible. Looks nothing like him either.

 

Cullen's face isn't bad, but it doesn't really look like the same as it did in Origins and 2.

 

Leliana's face is pretty accurate. It's a little too long instead of round, but it's close enough.

 

Morrigan's face was clearly the best. Almost an exact match.

 

M!Hawke's face was accurate, though I have no vested interest in his appearance. My Hawke is female.

 

When I saw the default F!Hawke's face I said, "That doesn't look like her". The features were wrong, the eye color was wrong, and the hair? What's with that hair style? Completely wrong. So I reloaded and went for the customization. I got everything right... or so I thought. Then when I saw her in the light I said, "Nope". I think I quit the game at that point and decided to come back to it later. I tried a few times, got it wrong each time, and then I finally decided to take some pics of default female Hawke in DA2 and have a side by side windowed screen to work off of. Again, I thought I had everything right, and then when she walks out into the sunlight... butterface! The eye color is right, but it looks painted on. Her head seems slightly too small and her face a little too "fat". But at this point I just said screw it and went with it. Then by the time I got to the Western Approach and saw her again and how "off" she was, I was far too deep into the game to go back and try again. The customizer for Hawke is worse than the Herald's. It's so dark and shadowy. What is wrong with BioWare not giving us the ability to adjust the lighting?

 

On a side note, I was able to recreate my Hero of Ferelden in the Herald's customizer pretty accurately.



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Leliana doesn't look like Leliana at all but,more like a Leliana wannabe.. She should at least bare a resemblance to the way she looked in DA:O.. Morrigan looks about the same except her chest got flatter.


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Alistair's face isn't right as king. It's closer to what it should be if he's a Warden, but still not quite right.


Huh? He can afford a facelift if he's king?

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Cullen looks completely different because they wanted to please the fangirls. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, I quite like how he turned out. :P 

 

You can tell they put a lot of effort into Morrigan, one thing that bothered me though is that they felt the need to give her the same clothes she wore 10 years ago. I was expecting a change since she looked more mature overall.

 

Leliana just looked super weird to me. Specially her mouth.



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I'm fine with the faces. The hair/facial hair looks like paint.



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Having two parties wage war on your lands for the past few years, as well as the general state of "OH ****" will probably do wonders to your face. And I don't mean that in a good way.

 

XD I suppose so, but still darn that is a lot of *wonders*

 

Morrigan and Varric haven't changed much. I do custom Hawkes so, none of mine look like the default anyway but, it is a bit tricky to get even a custom Hawke to look close to the DA2 Hawke they are meant to be.

 

Leliana hasn't changed too much, a bit but for the better.

 

Cullen, he's changed a lot but, he looks good now and, trying to invent a plausible headcannon for his new scar is fun.

 

Varric has gotten some details for far I can see from pictures. 

 

Leliana has changed a lot in my opinion she seems more grown up in a way.

 

He probably walked into a door after someone tried to flirt with him :P

 

I was displease overall. It started with Cassandra. I didn't like her original version, but then they fixed it, and the same with Josephine. I was satisfied with the final version of Cassandra. She could have been a little more like her DA2 version, but I'm fine with how it turned out.

 

My next demand was that they just not make Anora ugly. Even if she wasn't exact, or even if she was given signs of aging, fine. Just don't make her ugly. That's all I wanted for her. Well, I got my wish. They didn't make Anora ugly, but she didn't look as she should have. But again, can't complain. They didn't make her ugly, so that's all I cared about. My Herald went to Therinfall anyway.

 

Alistair's face isn't right as king. It's closer to what it should be if he's a Warden, but still not quite right.

 

Loghain's face is flat out terrible. Looks nothing like him.

 

Arl Teagan's face is horrible. Looks nothing like him either.

 

Cullen's face isn't bad, but it doesn't really look like the same as it did in Origins and 2.

 

Leliana's face is pretty accurate. It's a little too long instead of round, but it's close enough.

 

Morrigan's face was clearly the best. Almost an exact match.

 

M!Hawke's face was accurate, though I have no vested interest in his appearance. My Hawke is female.

 

When I saw the default F!Hawke's face I said, "That doesn't look like her". The features were wrong, the eye color was wrong, and the hair? What's with that hair style? Completely wrong. So I reloaded and went for the customization. I got everything right... or so I thought. Then when I saw her in the light I said, "Nope". I think I quit the game at that point and decided to come back to it later. I tried a few times, got it wrong each time, and then I finally decided to take some pics of default female Hawke in DA2 and have a side by side windowed screen to work off of. Again, I thought I had everything right, and then when she walks out into the sunlight... butterface! The eye color is right, but it looks painted on. Her head seems slightly too small and her face a little too "fat". But at this point I just said screw it and went with it. Then by the time I got to the Western Approach and saw her again and how "off" she was, I was far too deep into the game to go back and try again. The customizer for Hawke is worse than the Herald's. It's so dark and shadowy. What is wrong with BioWare not giving us the ability to adjust the lighting?

 

On a side note, I was able to recreate my Hero of Ferelden in the Herald's customizer pretty accurately.

 

Sorry that you are that displeased. Each to its own taste I suppose, but the customizer was awesome this time around. Also isn't it in your graphic settings that you control lighting? 

 

Leliana doesn't look like Leliana at all but,more like a Leliana wannabe.. She should at least bare a resemblance to the way she looked in DA:O.. Morrigan looks about the same except her chest got flatter.

 

Her head got a bit less round too lol.

 

Cullen looks completely different because they wanted to please the fangirls. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, I quite like how he turned out. :P

 

You can tell they put a lot of effort into Morrigan, one thing that bothered me though is that they felt the need to give her the same clothes she wore 10 years ago. I was expecting a change since she looked more mature overall.

 

Leliana just looked super weird to me. Specially her mouth.

 

I am certainly not complaining either :D

 

I don't think Morrigan required that much effort to be honest, just some *upgrade*

 

Her mouth? You would not kiss them? :o

 

I'm fine with the faces. The hair/facial hair looks like paint.

 

XD At least it doesn't look like Lego hair hahaha.



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Stroud seems somewhat accurate, different hairstyle, Morrigan, Leliana, Hawke, Varric, Flemeth and Cullen are all great, Loghain not so much.

 

Also Isabela in MP is fairly accurate.


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Stroud seems somewhat accurate, different hairstyle, Morrigan, Leliana, Hawke, Varric, Flemeth and Cullen are all great, Loghain not so much.

 

Also Isabela in MP is fairly accurate.

 

MP? I don't reckon meeting Isabela in the game.



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MP? I don't reckon meeting Isabela in the game.

 

MP = multiplayer



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MP? I don't reckon meeting Isabela in the game.

Multiplayer - you can play as Isabela the Duelist :P

Anyway..
Well the graphic is updated, so you can't expect them to look the same as before in DAO or DA2..

Example: Cullen looked "ok" back then but let's be honest, his hair looked like worms or noodles :D  now he looks veeeeeery nice  :wub: 

Cassandra, she looks pretty much the same - just in better graphic and with a few scars.

Leliana.. The only thing I don't like is her hair color, it should be a tiny bit darker. The rest is pretty much the same. I find her really pretty overall in every game.

Morrigan is the one that is most similar. You can tell a lot of effort went into her, specially the way they tried to make her even more realistic with her hair moving around (too bad it clips in her cheek D:). But she's beautiful.. But yes, I disagree with the clothes. It's been 10 years and her "adventuring" outfit is still the same??? :P

Hawke.. well she (he) can never be the same cause the type of hair/face settings are lesser and all short.. My Hawke had long hair :P But aside from that, I think her face still can look quite pretty. I am satisfied with how mine came out, even if she does not look like she was in DA2 but I just headcanon that she changed hairstyle..

And Varric.. he's a lot better now. He almost looks hot. His face was so "pointy" before it bothered me D:

Edit: forgot Alistair. Yes, I do not like him. He does not look like him and his face is too harsh but kinda too round at the same time.. Idk how to describe it.. Seems like he is really displeased about being king and that it reflects on his face :D
 



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And Varric.. he's a lot better now. He almost looks hot. His face was so "pointy" before it bothered me D:
 

 

Varric bothers me a little because I get transfixed by his broken nose in a gross way. It's just SO VERY broken at the top that it almost goes out horizontally from his face.  :o  :wacko:


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I felt sorry for Teagan. And this obligatory pot hat he has to wear :lol: no wonder he's grumpy.

Others are just cool (Leli, Stroud, Cass) and some are completely awsome (Cullen <3, Flemmeth, Morrigan and Loghain) and the rest are just okay-ish (Alistair, Anora, Varric, Hawke)

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 My Hawke is female.

 

When I saw the default F!Hawke's face I said, "That doesn't look like her". The features were wrong, the eye color was wrong, and the hair? What's with that hair style? Completely wrong. So I reloaded and went for the customization. I got everything right... or so I thought. Then when I saw her in the light I said, "Nope". I think I quit the game at that point and decided to come back to it later. I tried a few times, got it wrong each time, and then I finally decided to take some pics of default female Hawke in DA2 and have a side by side windowed screen to work off of. Again, I thought I had everything right, and then when she walks out into the sunlight... butterface! The eye color is right, but it looks painted on. Her head seems slightly too small and her face a little too "fat". But at this point I just said screw it and went with it. Then by the time I got to the Western Approach and saw her again and how "off" she was, I was far too deep into the game to go back and try again. The customizer for Hawke is worse than the Herald's. It's so dark and shadowy. What is wrong with BioWare not giving us the ability to adjust the lighting?

 

 

female hawke may turn well with a little bit of work,buliwyf managed to got her right,very similar to her atwork of DAII.

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My Alistair remained a Warden and I thought he'd aged pretty well. I had no problem with him. I mean, they will always vary since the graphics are completely different. Characters that appeared in all three games have always differed greatly from game to game. (I was very unhappy with Alistair's DAII design. I don't think it's the devs' fault, though. The engine is what it is.) I find his DAI appearance, as a Warden in my case, perfectly fine given the new engine. I do feel like he generally became fairer in both skin and hair - he was rather tan in Origins and his hair was darker blonde, I think. However, overall I thought he looked pretty great and I could easily tell it was him.
 
On the other hand, I felt that Morrigan's features changed a lot (Her face shape, her nose, etc.) but... I love her DAI appearance. I think she's very beautiful, looks more real and she has an amazing smile. I got very disappointed, though, when she got rid of the gorgeous dress from the Winter Palace (It looked so stunning on her!) and dressed in the rags from Origins. (Why is she still wearing that all the time? It's been 10 years! If she really needs to show off her assets, she can do that while wearing something new.)
 
Now Cullen... Hell, Cullen was a shock. He changes a lot between all three games, but DAI turned him into this big piece of eye candy... and, I mean, I'm not complaining because... damn, look at him, DAMN. But I don't know how to feel about it because it's such a huge transformation and I can't tell whether it's because they decided to give him some love and thought it more fitting for his character (which I'm hoping for) or because they just tried to please us since he's romanceable now. I sure as hell wouldn't recognise him if the rest of the character wasn't there, though. Then again, given that he was supposed to be very young in Origins (The Toolset actually spoke of 24, if I'm not mistaken, which eventually changed to around 20 in the story.), I've never understood the design choices behind his Origins' appearance as he definitely looked too old for this age. Heh, Cullen is complicated. I like him in all three games, but I can't say I'm unhappy about what he looks like in DAI.  :whistle:
 
Leliana's curious. I feel that her features are longer and less round in DAI. On the other hand, I quite enjoy her appearance in DAI. It has a bit more flavour. But I feel that her skin is almost unnaturally smooth, like it's not even real. I can't really complain about her, however. Really love the outfit she has going, too.
 
Cassandra is recognisable, but definitely different. Her nose and the shape of her face especially, I think. Again, I totally love her in DAI, though. I think they captured her personality so well and she's very beautiful. Happy to see the scars, too. They suit her. (Scars are so cool. I always want to ask about how a character got them. Same with Cullen.)
 
Varric looks totally different to me, though. I mean, I can easily tell it's him as he has many other trademark features like Bianca and all his chest hair, lol, and that's a good thing, but his facial features changed completely, in my opinion. He used to have this huge jaw going, bigger forehead and quite uniquely shaped but straight nose... I feel like his face became much rounder in DAI. But I have no issues with either version of him, I suppose.
 
I was glad to see Flemeth was more like an old woman again. I think the DAII version was a little too crazy and anime (That hair. Seriously.) and DAI didn't fix some of that for me (I don't think it's very fitting for the setting.), but I liked what they did with her face. I can see how much love went into it and I think it suits her perfectly.
 
As for Hawke, I couldn't get her quite right. But given that the graphics are so different, I didn't mind trying my hand at making a more realistic version of her. I quite enjoyed the result, even if it wasn't the same. (I don't think that's even possible with how different the games are.) What bothered me a little was that the short hairstyle wasn't available any more. I really liked that one on her in DAII.
 
And Teagan got old beyond recognition. Then again, it's been, what, 12 years. I wouldn't recognise him if I weren't told it was him, but I didn't have a problem with it. I absolutely didn't recognise seneschal Bran at all and it took some time before I realised who he was. The fact his hair colour changed didn't help. I probably wouldn't recognise Anora, either. None of them looked bad, but I couldn't tell it was them until announced or until they started talking (because I'd always recognise Anora's voice, at least).
 
All in all, I guess I can say I generally enjoyed what the old NPCs looked like in DAI. I felt like the new engine added new realism to them that wasn't quite possible before. With that came some new features, which is okay. I also remember it's been over 10 years since Origins. They definitely looked different, more or less, but I was always able to tell who was who, minus a rare exception or two. So, yeah, I suppose I like most of it.
 
Then again, that's just me, of course.  :)


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MP = multiplayer

 

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

 

Multiplayer - you can play as Isabela the Duelist :P

Anyway..
Well the graphic is updated, so you can't expect them to look the same as before in DAO or DA2..

Example: Cullen looked "ok" back then but let's be honest, his hair looked like worms or noodles :D  now he looks veeeeeery nice  :wub: 

Cassandra, she looks pretty much the same - just in better graphic and with a few scars.

Leliana.. The only thing I don't like is her hair color, it should be a tiny bit darker. The rest is pretty much the same. I find her really pretty overall in every game.

Morrigan is the one that is most similar. You can tell a lot of effort went into her, specially the way they tried to make her even more realistic with her hair moving around (too bad it clips in her cheek D:). But she's beautiful.. But yes, I disagree with the clothes. It's been 10 years and her "adventuring" outfit is still the same??? :P

Hawke.. well she (he) can never be the same cause the type of hair/face settings are lesser and all short.. My Hawke had long hair :P But aside from that, I think her face still can look quite pretty. I am satisfied with how mine came out, even if she does not look like she was in DA2 but I just headcanon that she changed hairstyle..

And Varric.. he's a lot better now. He almost looks hot. His face was so "pointy" before it bothered me D:

Edit: forgot Alistair. Yes, I do not like him. He does not look like him and his face is too harsh but kinda too round at the same time.. Idk how to describe it.. Seems like he is really displeased about being king and that it reflects on his face :D
 

 

I know you can't the graphic to look the same, but if you take a look at Morrigan you will see that even with better graphics you can still make the characters look like the ones in DA:O and DA:2 did.

Also as long as Morrigan washes her clothes here and there I am not too bothered by it XD

 

Yes Cullen looks very nice :* He is married to my first play-through tho I was close in choosing Solas lol.

 

I see a huge difference in Leliena's head shape, it seems more pointy here lol.

 

Varric, Cassandra and Hawke I have not seen as I have not played DA:2. Only seen videos of Varric and erm, well, he looks like a thug leader who smokes cigars o.O He looks MUCH better now.

 

I didn't recognize any of them, nor by voice or looks. Tho I care nothing for Anora I find her rather annoying. 

 

10 years?! D: No wonder I had little memory of the game. 



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Sorry that you are that displeased. Each to its own taste I suppose, but the customizer was awesome this time around. Also isn't it in your graphic settings that you control lighting?

 

No. You can adjust the brightness and maybe the contrast, but that doesn't make the shadows and dark lighting go away in the game. It essentially just makes things "whiter".

 

female hawke may turn well with a little bit of work,buliwyf managed to got her right,very similar to her atwork of DAII.

 

Meh. I think the modded hair is going most of the distance for that model. I'm not sure the facial features are correct, but I will admit that it's much closer to default F!Hawke than mine was.



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Characters are going to look different across engines..

 

Not to mention it's been decades since the events of DAO...

 

You guys do too much. :P



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I think everybody looks amazing, though I did struggle with my custom Hawke. That was difficult. After several hours and several attempts I did manage to get my Hawke looking reasonably like herself, just older and worn, which fits. I'll play DAI one more time in the run up to DA4, a replay of my canon Inquisitor, so I'll get one more shot at it. 



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Characters are going to look different across engines..

 

Not to mention it's been decades since the events of DAO...

 

You guys do too much. :P

 

except morrigan