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From what I understand when you put two words together into one you use ', like in Asha'Belanar right?
But, is there any rule for when it happens with the same letter? In my specific case Da + Asha
It would be Da'asha or D'asha?

Off-topic:
Bioware should really make some kind of Thedas races dictionary, it would help a lot to come up with new names for anything, really
I know it is cool and easy to go around with Dwarves, Elves and Qunari that grew apart from their people called Jhon, Jane, Jack and Mary but it is even more cool to go all "my foreign alien outlandish name means: I SPIT IN THE FACE OF DEATH WHILE MAKING YOU CRY MWAHAHAHAHAH" or something like that, like Solas (Pride) or Felassan (Slow arrow)
My last elven girl was Lath (Love) but I wish I knew more to give them better names, it feels like those japanese tattoos where someone told you it means "peace", then you make it, and you learn it means "noodles for 5cents"


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I think in your case it would be Da'Asha.

 

I found this guide ages ago, and while I tend to give my Wardens Gaelic names, I may use it to come up with some of my own Elvhen names for future Dalish wardens:

https://archiveofour...chapters/582281


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Good question, not super easy to answer since Elvehn is cipher vs. a full language. I'd say you'd probably be safe either way. Remember that outside common phrases and names Elvehn is a dead language.


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Thank you both

 

Good question, not super easy to answer since Elvehn is cipher vs. a full language. I'd say you'd probably be safe either way. Remember that outside common phrases and names Elvehn is a dead language.

Yeah, and I was fine with that and all but since game lore advanced a lot into ancient elves perhaps some language revealing is in order post inquisition.
And well there is still Qunari, Dwarven and even some things in common language, I think the idea of a dictionary or in this case a micro-mini-dictionary would help us. I mean, we all need names for our characters right?

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Thank you both

 

Yeah, and I was fine with that and all but since game lore advanced a lot into ancient elves perhaps some language revealing is in order post inquisition.
And well there is still Qunari, Dwarven and even some things in common language, I think the idea of a dictionary or in this case a micro-mini-dictionary would help us. I mean, we all need names for our characters right?

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The linguist in me agrees with your need for a mini dictionary.  As for names, I personally go with "whatever sounds/feels right."  My dwarves tend to have Nordic names, my elves and humans usually have Celtic names... and then there's my canon Warden, Ridanu, whose name came out of a random name generator years ago and I liked it.


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The linguist in me agrees with your need for a mini dictionary.  As for names, I personally go with "whatever sounds/feels right."  My dwarves tend to have Nordic names, my elves and humans usually have Celtic names... and then there's my canon Warden, Ridanu, whose name came out of a random name generator years ago and I liked it.

Thedas indeed offers a, let's say, base for that since thedosian cultures were based on real life cultures and we have ingame names like Lilith, Cassandra and others from myths. I do use names from various mythologies (and cultures) but recently I felt the need to have more "thedosian" names. As the World of Thedas became bigger and deeper my interest in having characters that felt more part of that world grew too.


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Thedas indeed offers a, let's say, base for that since thedosian cultures were based on real life cultures and we have ingame names like Lilith, Cassandra and others from myths. I do use names from various mythologies (and cultures) but recently I felt the need to have more "thedosian" names. As the World of Thedas became bigger and deeper my interest in having characters that felt more part of that world grew too.

Yeah, some guidance on Elvish and Qunari/Kossith names at least would be nice.  It's hard to come up with names without having a set of rules or some idea of where the idea for the culture comes from.  That's my problem with choosing appropriate Dalish names especially; there are so many real life cultures that could fit.  Romani, Lapp, Native American/First Peoples, Australian Aborigine, Maori, Hmong, ancient Celts, ancient Picts...



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Yeah, some guidance on Elvish and Qunari/Kossith names at least would be nice.  It's hard to come up with names without having a set of rules or some idea of where the idea for the culture comes from.  That's my problem with choosing appropriate Dalish names especially; there are so many real life cultures that could fit.  Romani, Lapp, Native American/First Peoples, Australian Aborigine, Maori, Hmong, ancient Celts, ancient Picts...

If I'm not mistaken one of the devs said Elves were initially based on jews (thus the exodus) but later they become a more general story of conquered, enslaved and exiled people. But they obviousy also have influence from classic fantasy elves like Norse Mythology and Tolkien.

Funny fact: The little spirit in the elven ruins of brecillian forest said "mamae", in Brazil mommy is "mamãe" and "brecillian forest" sounds a bit like "brazillian forest", I laughed the first time I saw it



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If I'm not mistaken one of the devs said Elves were initially based on jews (thus the exodus) but later they become a more general story of conquered, enslaved and exiled people. But they obviousy also have influence from classic fantasy elves like Norse Mythology and Tolkien.

Funny fact: The little spirit in the elven ruins of brecillian forest said "mamae", in Brazil mommy is "mamãe" and "brecillian forest" sounds a bit like "brazillian forest", I laughed the first time I saw it

That never even crossed my mind, but considering the Exalted Marches are Thedas' version of the Crusades, and there was a LOT of anti-Semitic behavior during the time of the Crusades... it makes a lot of sense, actually.

 

I always thought of the Brecilian Forest as being like the forest of Brocéliande in the Arthurian cycle, but heh, that's a neat tidbit! :)


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That never even crossed my mind, but considering the Exalted Marches are Thedas' version of the Crusades, and there was a LOT of anti-Semitic behavior during the time of the Crusades... it makes a lot of sense, actually.

 

I always thought of the Brecilian Forest as being like the forest of Brocéliande in the Arthurian cycle, but heh, that's a neat tidbit! :)

Elves also have a story of falling form grace. In Bible, Eden humans lived 900 years, but after being expelled from Eden their lifespan decreased each generation, it looks a lot more like elven history than the story of the magisters of Tevinter. Besides losing "magic" is more like "losing god's grace" than being transformed in "demons" like magisters. Also Jesus (Andraste) came to save jews but most jews (Dalish) didn't became Christians (Andrastians) while the whole world was dominated by a christian (andrastian) religion. There are a lot more things but this is what I remeber now...

Tevinter is Rome, so it also fits the domination and well you can go on from here.


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And the purge in the Denerim alienage is analogous to the pogroms that drove Jews out of so many cities in Europe during the 1800s and 1900s.


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