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There's more focus on the students and their battle against Cerberus. There's a lot more struggle and not everyone gets out of it alive, unfortunately. I can really recommend going through Grissom without Jack at least once.

 

On my last run with my Adept I didn't upgrade the Normandy to see who would die and as a result Jack died. I kinda knew it would happen with her, but I was genuinely surprised how much better I liked Grissom without her! And I love Jack, so that's a big deal for me, haha.

I took James and Javik with me and I really loved it, James is also so sweet with the students. The whole atmosphere was really great.

[ArcadiaGrey]

On my last run with my Adept I didn't upgrade the Normandy to see who would die and as a result Jack died. I kinda knew it would happen with her, but I was genuinely surprised how much better I liked Grissom without her! And I love Jack, so that's a big deal for me, haha.

I took James and Javik with me and I really loved it, James is also so sweet with the students. The whole atmosphere was really great.

 

Interesting, rarely do ppl say that the game is better without a ME2 teammate.  Looking forward to killing her now.....

 

EDIT - Oh, and what you said about James...I was guilty of picking the other guys over him, but I really need to focus on taking him to more missions.  I remember someone saying he had great dialogue but ppl usually assume he's just a stand-in extra, however he's pretty great and you should give him a chance.  I must remember to take him to the Academy with me when I do a Jack-less run.

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Interesting, rarely do ppl say that the game is better without a ME2 teammate.  Looking forward to killing her now.....

 

EDIT - Oh, and what you said about James...I was guilty of picking the other guys over him, but I really need to focus on taking him to more missions.  I remember someone saying he had great dialogue but ppl usually assume he's just a stand-in extra, however he's pretty great and you should give him a chance.  I must remember to take him to the Academy with me when I do a Jack-less run.

 

I was surprised too, believe me

 

I usually left him on the Normandy in all my runs despite liking his character, but I never had the incentive to take him along. Now last year when starting my first FemShep I had this idea to let her have the one-night stand with him during the Citadel DLC because of a failed relationship with Kaidan, so I built a story around them and took him with me on every mission. I came to quickly love, even adore this guy. He's a great character (he became my no.1 in the ME games) and has got some really great things to say. If you ever decide to take him, be sure to also pick Javik, at some point I took James and Javik everywhere and I had the best time, it was awesome

[ArcadiaGrey]

I was surprised too, believe me

 

I usually left him on the Normandy in all my runs despite liking his character, but I never had the incentive to take him along. Now last year when starting my first FemShep I had this idea to let her have the one-night stand with him during the Citadel DLC because of a failed relationship with Kaidan, so I built a story around them and took him with me on every mission. I came to quickly love, even adore this guy. He's a great character (he became my no.1 in the ME games) and has got some really great things to say. If you ever decide to take him, be sure to also pick Javik, at some point I took James and Javik everywhere and I had the best time, it was awesome

 

Nice!  I'll definitely do that.   To say he's your No.1 guy, blimey, must be good.  Maybe it's the Freddie Prinze Jr. magic 

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Nice!  I'll definitely do that.   To say he's your No.1 guy, blimey, must be good.  Maybe it's the Freddie Prinze Jr. magic 

 

Haha, it's still a matter of taste of course, but surprisingly many people like him a lot, and that's a good sign

To me he is incredibly well written, he is a deep and rich character imo, and it's worth to look past the meaty guy and get to know him. I even got him pissed at my Shepard, which was priceless because he usually treats Shepard with so much respect, but he's not afraid to open his mouth when he thought she was wrong. Unlike other squad mates

 

Also, yep, Freddie definitely works his magic. I just love his voice acting for James, it's top notch, he really nailed it there.

[Eleonora]

On my last run with my Adept I didn't upgrade the Normandy to see who would die and as a result Jack died. I kinda knew it would happen with her, but I was genuinely surprised how much better I liked Grissom without her! And I love Jack, so that's a big deal for me, haha.

I took James and Javik with me and I really loved it, James is also so sweet with the students. The whole atmosphere was really great.

 

Yes! It's bittersweet because I love Jack, but Grissom Academy is so much more dramatic and powerful without her.

 

I have to admit, I don't take James and Javik with me nearly as much as I should. They're both good examples of characters I was indifferent about in the beginning, but I've grown to like them more and more. They're both pretty awesome. (And I love their voice actors!) It's just that Garrus, Tali, Liara, Ash and Kaidan usually steal their spotlight in my games. I'm definately going to have to use them more in my next playthrough, though

[Eleonora]

Nice!  I'll definitely do that.   To say he's your No.1 guy, blimey, must be good.  Maybe it's the Freddie Prinze Jr. magic 

 

Haha I have to agree, Freddy's voice is pretty great. He was the perfect VA for James, with the latino background and all. And he made Bull extra awesome

[ArcadiaGrey]

Haha I have to agree, Freddy's voice is pretty great. He was the perfect VA for James, with the latino background and all. And he made Bull extra awesome

 

Ikr, when I first knew he was a VA I rolled my eyes and thought 'oh god, a pretty boy actor, he'll be terrible'.

 

Well Mr. Prinze I was SO SO wrong and I apologise. 

 

He's fabulous, Bull is wonderful and I love the slight Latino twang to James.  Never goes over the top, just a hint here and there.  That can't be easy if it's not your natural accent. (no idea if it is or not tbh)

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I couldn't believe that Bull was voiced by the same guy as James, that was quite awesome (Bull will be next on my romance list ).

I know Freddie from way back when I was a teen and watched a few of these horrible movies with him, so I was also pleasantly surprised he's such an awesome voice actor. At some point last year I watched some of Freddie's interviews and he is a totally likable guy. He knows games stuff and is a pretty big geek himself, very cool Also a big fan of ME and DA.

 

Oh, and btw, just in case you guys have not seen Paragon Lost yet, I'd recommend it, as it tells more about James's mission on Fehl Prime.

[Eleonora]

Ikr, when I first knew he was a VA I rolled my eyes and thought 'oh god, a pretty boy actor, he'll be terrible'.

 

Well Mr. Prinze I was SO SO wrong and I apologise. 

 

He's fabulous, Bull is wonderful and I love the slight Latino twang to James.  Never goes over the top, just a hint here and there.  That can't be easy if it's not your natural accent. (no idea if it is or not tbh)

 

I only knew him from that Scooby Doo movie I have to say, I did not expect him to voice James at all (sorry, Freddy!) but he totally delivered. Someone here said that he speaks spanish fluently, and yeah, James's spanish accent sounded pretty genuine. Not sure what Bull's accent is supposed to be though, but that's part of his charm

[themikefest]

For me I find the geth dreadnought mission is better having Tali dead in ME3. Admiral Xen has some good dialogue

 

If Mordin is dead, Padok Wiks replaces him. Good character. I've read posts from folks saying they prefer him over Mordin

 

If Jacob is dead, Dr. Webber takes his place. Everything is nearly the same except Dr Cole, voiced by Jo Wyatt, gets more dialogue

 

In regards to doing Grissom without having Jack in the game. I agree the mission isn't bad without her, but my issue is with the squadmates. Without Jack, Ensign Prangley will be killed. Had the squadmates provided cover fire for Shepard while helping get Rodriquez to the shuttle, Prangley most likely would live

 

If Grunt isn't in the game, Urdnot Dagg fills in. He's another good character. Too bad he dies.

[ArcadiaGrey]

For me I find the geth dreadnought mission is better having Tali dead in ME3. Admiral Xen has some good dialogue

 

If Mordin is dead, Padok Wiks replaces him. Good character. I've read posts from folks saying they prefer him over Mordin

 

If Jacob is dead, Dr. Webber takes his place. Everything is nearly the same except Dr Cole, voiced by Jo Wyatt, gets more dialogue

 

In regards to doing Grissom without having Jack in the game. I agree the mission isn't bad without her, but my issue is with the squadmates. Without Jack, Ensign Prangley will be killed. Had the squadmates provided cover fire for Shepard while helping get Rodriquez to the shuttle, Prangley most likely would live

 

If Grunt isn't in the game, Urdnot Dagg fills in. He's another good character. Too bad he dies.

 

Good to know, thanks for the info.  I liked Urdnot Dagg, he was cool, and I also had Urdnot Wreav on my only play thru so far of ME3.  Now let's be clear, he's a dick, but storytelling wise he was a great character.  Makes not doing the big thing that you're supposed to do (spoilers) much easier, you don't feel anywhere near so bad.  But it's sad that most ppl never get him as killing Wrex makes forum folk gasp with shock.      Jeez ppl, do it once at least!

 

I couldn't believe that Bull was voiced by the same guy as James, that was quite awesome (Bull will be next on my romance list ).

I know Freddie from way back when I was a teen and watched a few of these horrible movies with him, so I was also pleasantly surprised he's such an awesome voice actor. At some point last year I watched some of Freddie's interviews and he is a totally likable guy. He knows games stuff and is a pretty big geek himself, very cool Also a big fan of ME and DA.

 

Oh, and btw, just in case you guys have not seen Paragon Lost yet, I'd recommend it, as it tells more about James's mission on Fehl Prime.

 

Ah, enjoy Kadan, the experience is amazing.  Plus there's a great boob shot so there's that.  

I'll check out Paragon Lost when I start ME3, thanks for the heads up. 

[themikefest]

Good to know, thanks for the info.  I liked Urdnot Dagg, he was cool, and I also had Urdnot Wreav on my only play thru so far of ME3.  Now let's be clear, he's a dick, but storytelling wise he was a great character.  Makes not doing the big thing that you're supposed to do (spoilers) much easier, you don't feel anywhere near so bad.  But it's sad that most ppl never get him as killing Wrex makes forum folk gasp with shock.      Jeez ppl, do it once at least!

Wrex doesn't have to be killed to have Wreav in ME2/3. Don't recruit Wrex in ME1

[ArcadiaGrey]

Wrex doesn't have to be killed to have Wreav in ME2/3. Don't recruit Wrex in ME1

 

Aw come on, shooting him is so much fun tho.  

 

But yeah, didn't know that.

[fraggle]

Good to know, thanks for the info.  I liked Urdnot Dagg, he was cool, and I also had Urdnot Wreav on my only play thru so far of ME3.  Now let's be clear, he's a dick, but storytelling wise he was a great character.  Makes not doing the big thing that you're supposed to do (spoilers) much easier, you don't feel anywhere near so bad.  But it's sad that most ppl never get him as killing Wrex makes forum folk gasp with shock.      Jeez ppl, do it once at least!

 

I also liked Urdnot Dagg a lot, I have to be honest here and say that I don't even like Grunt that much anyway

Wreav is awesome storytelling wise, I totally agree.

 

I'm brave in my current playthrough.

Spoiler

I let Wrex live, but destroyed the cure data and I will not cure the genophage. Can't wait to see this play out.

Also Tali, Jacob, Mordin and Samara will die during the Suicide mission for me this time, I'm looking forward to all replacements/more dialogues. Who would've thought this could be so much fun

 

Ah, enjoy Kadan, the experience is amazing.  Plus there's a great boob shot so there's that.  

I'll check out Paragon Lost when I start ME3, thanks for the heads up. 

 

I look forward to it

Hope you enjoy Paragon Lost too. It's a bit silly at times, but worth watching for James alone.

[ArcadiaGrey]

I also liked Urdnot Dagg a lot, I have to be honest here and say that I don't even like Grunt that much anyway
Wreav is awesome storytelling wise, I totally agree.
 
I'm brave in my current playthrough.

Spoiler

I let Wrex live, but destroyed the cure data and I will not cure the genophage. Can't wait to see this play out.
Also Tali, Jacob, Mordin and Samara will die during the Suicide mission for me this time, I'm looking forward to all replacements/more dialogues. Who would've thought this could be so much fun

You've got the taste for blood now......bwahahaha

Sounds cool tho. How many times have you played? I'm on my third run (but 2nd of ME3) and trying to make a new face each time is driving me freaking nuts.
I'm currently being a son of a ******. 

Spoiler

Killed Kaidan, racist, banging everyone I can but mainly Ash and Miranda and recruit Morinth. Kasumi, Thane and Mordin die in the SM. Then Tali takes the jump, the bomb goes off, and Shep gets super annoyed at the kid, shooting him and plunging the galaxy into another 50000 year cycle. Can’t wait.  

[Natureguy85]

EDIT - Oh, and what you said about James...I was guilty of picking the other guys over him, but I really need to focus on taking him to more missions.  I remember someone saying he had great dialogue but ppl usually assume he's just a stand-in extra, however he's pretty great and you should give him a chance.  I must remember to take him to the Academy with me when I do a Jack-less run.

 

I did it because there's nothing on the surface that makes me want to dig deeper. Remember the phrase "you can't judge a book by it's cover"? Well, that's wrong. Humans do it all the time. A cover is what draws you to a book to decide if you want to take the time to check out what is inside.

 

When we first meet James, Shepard knows him so he isn't introduced to the player at all then is immediately pushed out of the events of the scene by Anderson only to pop back in so the Virmire Survivor can deliver a stupid, cliche line. The next time he speaks he's whining like a small child and I love telling him to shut up. Then if I do care to talk to him ever again for some weird reason, he's an *******. At least I get to kick his ass.

 

 

For me I find the geth dreadnought mission is better having Tali dead in ME3. Admiral Xen has some good dialogue

 

If Mordin is dead, Padok Wiks replaces him. Good character. I've read posts from folks saying they prefer him over Mordin

 

If Jacob is dead, Dr. Webber takes his place. Everything is nearly the same except Dr Cole, voiced by Jo Wyatt, gets more dialogue

 

In regards to doing Grissom without having Jack in the game. I agree the mission isn't bad without her, but my issue is with the squadmates. Without Jack, Ensign Prangley will be killed. Had the squadmates provided cover fire for Shepard while helping get Rodriquez to the shuttle, Prangley most likely would live

 

If Grunt isn't in the game, Urdnot Dagg fills in. He's another good character. Too bad he dies.

 

Admiral Xen is awesome, in no small part because of Claudia Black's voice, but she also should have been more important. Remember, she wanted to Control the Geth back in ME2. Had they kept that idea relevant, the Quarian conflict and the three Admirals would have set up the endings. You had Garrel for Destroy, Korus for Synthesis (makes more sense if he met Legion), and now Xen for Control. Raan is the mediator.

 

As for the squad mates, I don't see how anything can be worse than Shepard not doing anything while Thane fights Kai Leng. That's even worse than Kirrahee just standing there and taking the shot or Thane jumping on Leng's sword.

 

I like Dagg too. I wish they gave him the full Grunt fight, all the way to charging off the cliff. I don't need to see either get chopped up to understand that they died. If they don't come out at the end, I get it.

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You've got the taste for blood now......bwahahaha

Sounds cool tho. How many times have you played? I'm on my third run (but 2nd of ME3) and trying to make a new face each time is driving me freaking nuts.
I'm currently being a son of a ******. 

Spoiler

Killed Kaidan, racist, banging everyone I can but mainly Ash and Miranda and recruit Morinth. Kasumi, Thane and Mordin die in the SM. Then Tali takes the jump, the bomb goes off, and Shep gets super annoyed at the kid, shooting him and plunging the galaxy into another 50000 year cycle. Can’t wait.  

 

I guess that's true, haha!

 

I'm on my 4th run currently. Have a few more Loyalty missions for ME2 left and some side quests, then I'm heading into ME3.

Spoiler

Haha, sounds amazing. My racist character was my FemShep, but she learned to trust aliens along the way and she even got close to Javik, aww.

She just still hated batarians (Colonist background)

At some point I also wanna bang everyone I can. My first Shep was already very slutty, romancing Liara in ME1, Miranda in 2, ditched both of them to end up with Kaidan

[Natureguy85]

I always use this flow chart. It saves lives.

 

http://vignette2.wik...-prefix=answers

 

This is a nice one too.

 

I have seen this chart and love it but hadn't seen the pictures before. That's cool.

[themikefest]

As for the squad mates, I don't see how anything can be worse than Shepard not doing anything while Thane fights Kai Leng. That's even worse than Kirrahee just standing there and taking the shot or Thane jumping on Leng's sword.

While that's true, those same squadmates, for whatever reason, didn't speak up when Udina accused Shepard of working with Cerberus or at least saying something to Ashley/Kaidan to maybe cause them to lower their weapon. Yes Shepard can have them stand down or he/she lowers his/her weapon, but the squadmates not speaking up on Shepard's behalf, especially if one of the those squadmates is a LI, is pathetic.

 

The same can be said for the ex-Cerberus scientists mission.

 

What's the point of having squadmates if they don't have Shepard's back.

 

Kirrahe and Thane, especially Thane, are idiots and they paid for that idiocy

[Eleonora]

Admiral Xen is awesome, in no small part because of Claudia Black's voice, but she also should have been more important. Remember, she wanted to Control the Geth back in ME2. Had they kept that idea relevant, the Quarian conflict and the three Admirals would have set up the endings. You had Garrel for Destroy, Korus for Synthesis (makes more sense if he met Legion), and now Xen for Control. Raan is the mediator.

 

Hadn't thought of them like that, that's pretty cool. Too bad they didn't stick with their original plan, where the Citadel coup originally would've happened after Thessia and Xen would be involved on the Citadel, using Geth to mess things up and potentially finding info about the reaper signal within the station.

[Natureguy85]

Hadn't thought of them like that, that's pretty cool. Too bad they didn't stick with their original plan, where the Citadel coup originally would've happened after Thessia and Xen would be involved on the Citadel, using Geth to mess things up and potentially finding info about the reaper signal within the station.

 

Yeah that would have been better than nothing, but it would be yet another mark against the idea of Control. While that would fit with other things in the story, namely TIM, it would have made the Control ending option seem even more out of place.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

You've got the perfect playthrough for it too, in my opinion. Padok Wiks, Mordin's replacement is really good and has great lines Shepard can hear in the dream. It's a crime that he is gated behind killing off Mordin, another great character and one for whom the Tuchanka mission is the completion of his character arc. Wiks will still be on Surkesh either way though.

Wiks is amazing. I love that guy. My very first run thru the trilogy, Mordin was my only casualty in the suicide mission and I decided I'd stick with it instead of looking up a guide and fixing it. Was so pleasantly surprised when I met Wiks and he was a fully fleshed out character.

 

I also liked Urdnot Dagg a lot, I have to be honest here and say that I don't even like Grunt that much anyway 

Wreav is awesome storytelling wise, I totally agree.

 

I'm brave in my current playthrough.

Spoiler

I let Wrex live, but destroyed the cure data and I will not cure the genophage. Can't wait to see this play out.

Also Tali, Jacob, Mordin and Samara will die during the Suicide mission for me this time, I'm looking forward to all replacements/more dialogues. Who would've thought this could be so much fun 

 

 

I look forward to it 

Hope you enjoy Paragon Lost too. It's a bit silly at times, but worth watching for James alone.

 

Speaking of Samara dying, I have yet to be able to find a vid of Lesuss with her dead. You do still get the mission, right? Who's her replacement? Or is it that there's no character replacement and you just get no cutscenes till you meet Samara's youngest?

[themikefest]

Speaking of Samara dying, I have yet to be able to find a vid of Lesuss with her dead. You do still get the mission, right? Who's her replacement? Or is it that there's no character replacement and you just get no cutscenes till you meet Samara's youngest?

She has no replacement. .

 

If you choose Morinth over Samara in ME2, there will be a computer that shows that Morinth is trying to get in contact with her sisters

 

http://masseffect.wi...akshi_Monastery

[Eleonora]

Speaking of Samara dying, I have yet to be able to find a vid of Lesuss with her dead. You do still get the mission, right? Who's her replacement? Or is it that there's no character replacement and you just get no cutscenes till you meet Samara's youngest?

 

Like Mike said, there's no replacement for Samara. Rila and Falere get a few extra lines of dialogue, though.

 

Too bad they didn't put Morinth in ME3. Well, apart from the email and that one banshee. They really should've put her in Lesuss, sacrificing herself to save her sisters and ultimately getting banshee-fied. It would be a nice way to redeem her character. *sigh* Another missed chance, I guess.