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[ThomasBlaine]

I was starting the Leviathan DLC, and during the conversation about how humanity only confirmed the existence of aliens a single generation ago it struck me that we arrived on the galactic scene within just a few decades of the planned reaper invasion - after fifty thousand years.

 

It made me wonder at how close we came to passing through the relays and exploring the galaxy immediately after the reapers had made short work of every other space-faring species out there instead, pretty much leaving us the run of the place.

 

And considering that even the Prothean and Asari began colonizing tens of thousands of years into their respective cycles, we'd have quite the head-start in consolidating our presence and maybe even preparing for the next invasion if an equivalent of Liara's time capsule was found.

 

Thoughts?

[gothpunkboy89]

I always wondered about this as well. What if something delayed us finding the Mars Archive by a century or so.  Like a base on the moon going critically wrong resulting in a few decades of stalling to ensure nothing goes wrong before even attempting to visit mars.

 

Humanity was very close to Illusive Man's ultimate goal of human domination of the galaxy.

[themikefest]

It might of happened had it not been for the Prothean scientists altering that signal delaying the cycle.  I gather the reapers wanted to start the cycle before humanity discovered the ruins on Mars

[aoibhealfae]

I imagine it was something like The Expanse without all the biotics science.

 

I'm currently reading the book and humanity was nowhere looking like the Star Trek utopia in Mass Effect verse. Yes, I'm shameless promoting the series. I need more people to geek about this.

[Dantriges]

Depends on how long it takes the Reapers to mop up the rest and hunt down the last refugees. If Liara´s prediction about a hundred years come close, we would open the relay, stumble upon the harvest and get eaten.

[Reorte]

If the Reapers knew about us I doubt they'd have left us alone. Leaving primitive societies is one thing but ones on the verge of interstellar travel would just be asking to get their backsides kicked in the next cycle.

[Undead Han]

I imagine it was something like The Expanse without all the biotics science.

 

I'm currently reading the book and humanity was nowhere looking like the Star Trek utopia in Mass Effect verse. Yes, I'm shameless promoting the series. I need more people to geek about this.

 

I haven't read the books yet, but I've watched the first four episodes of the series. Its off to a great start, and way better than Syfy's usual content.

 

It definitely gives me a Mass Effect vibe in some places, though more what the the Alliance must have looked like before it found the Charon relay. The cleaner parts of Ceres remind me of the Citadel, and the seedier parts Omega. 

[ThomasBlaine]

Depends on how long it takes the Reapers to mop up the rest and hunt down the last refugees. If Liara´s prediction about a hundred years come close, we would open the relay, stumble upon the harvest and get eaten.

 

That prediction is made in a universe where humanity is taking most of the initial heat, and where the Reapers' routine of starting every harvest by taking control of the relays and isolating each system like they did with the Protheans was sabotaged by a human. That said, the war would probably still take decades and for all we know the reapers spend a thousand years erasing every trace they can find of the old civilizations in the aftermath.

 

If the Reapers knew about us I doubt they'd have left us alone. Leaving primitive societies is one thing but ones on the verge of interstellar travel would just be asking to get their backsides kicked in the next cycle.

 

Based on theirs and the Catalyst's dialogue I don't think the reapers can even comprehend the possibility of their own defeat. The purpose of the harvests is to make sure that no particular cycle's artificial creations take over and rule or destroy organic life forever, ensuring that no species grows powerful enough to oppose the reapers themselves doesn't seem to be part of their motivation.

[gothpunkboy89]

If the Reapers knew about us I doubt they'd have left us alone. Leaving primitive societies is one thing but ones on the verge of interstellar travel would just be asking to get their backsides kicked in the next cycle.

I really doubt that considering humanity would still evolve around their tech and thus their set up.  Only the Geth started to evolve along different lines.

[aoibhealfae]

I haven't read the books yet, but I've watched the first four episodes of the series. Its off to a great start, and way better than Syfy's usual content.

 

It definitely gives me a Mass Effect vibe in some places, though more what the the Alliance must have looked like before it found the Charon relay. The cleaner parts of Ceres remind me of the Citadel, and the seedier parts Omega. 

 

I'm in the middle of Leviathan Wakes at the moment. Its fast-paced but the tv series are definitely more nuance and richer than the written narrative.

 

I like how it depicted the conditions of people who live in low gravity and the language barrier and cultural mix and the desperation of being in overpopulated heap of junk. Seeing conditions like this made more sense why humanity are desperate for more alien cooperation especially for better technology because there's always limits to human advancements and of course, the people who have access to them. 

[Reorte]

I really doubt that considering humanity would still evolve around their tech and thus their set up.  Only the Geth started to evolve along different lines.

A 50000 year headstart on trying to decipher it though... I really can't believe that we wouldn't poke around with the relays and figure them out in that time. The Protheans did with less time, and Aethyta talks about building relays so the asari at least must've done some research into them even if they've not got that far (or at any rate it suggests, even if it doesn't prove, that the idea has been entertained).

[Sarayne]

I imagine it was something like The Expanse without all the biotics science.

 

I'm currently reading the book and humanity was nowhere looking like the Star Trek utopia in Mass Effect verse. Yes, I'm shameless promoting the series. I need more people to geek about this.

I just watched all 4 episodes on syfy and I just want to say thank you for showing me this amazing series.This has to be one of the best sci-fi shows I have ever seen.

[von uber]

Maybe they might have actually found the plans for the crucible in the small data cache massive archive.

[themikefest]

I would guess that if humanity was ignored by the reapers, the reapers would be in a lot of trouble in 50 000 years. Once the reapers finish harvesting the other species, and gone back to darkspace, humanity would most likely build up their military, and then help the species that were left alone by the reapers, to advance at a faster rate than usual. I would guess within a few centuries or whatever time, the galaxy would be very powerful. By the time the reapers show up, they might get their backsides kicked very badly. The only problem is knowing when the reapers will enter the galaxy. Heck. They may even attempt a mission to darkspace to deal with the reapers. That would be interesting. Who knows.

[gothpunkboy89]

A 50000 year headstart on trying to decipher it though... I really can't believe that we wouldn't poke around with the relays and figure them out in that time. The Protheans did with less time, and Aethyta talks about building relays so the asari at least must've done some research into them even if they've not got that far (or at any rate it suggests, even if it doesn't prove, that the idea has been entertained).

The protheans also had some very large advantages the way they could communicate. Transfer complete knowledge from one person to another though touch.

 

Despite the advancements the Reapers still defeated the Protheans even though they were in all likely hood more advanced then current in game cycle. Given that fact the only Prothean artifact left would have been on Mars. With the Reapers harvesting all the other species that relied on their data to advance.

 

Lets also not forget the only reason game cycle has a chance against the Reapers is because Sovergin dropped the ball. Not only alerting a few people to their existance. Thus making is so they are not caught completely by suprise that they exist. But prevented the Citadel with all that data from falling into their hands until well into the invasion. But after his destruction giving access to reaper tech closing that gap they had.

 

That Thanax cannon that they use to destroy the Collector ship only exists because they salvaged and reverse engineered Sovergin's main cannon. Giving them access to fire power previously unheard of.

 

With the chance to correct the issue the Protheans created with the signal the Reapers would be free to invade and attack in their standard method of complete and utter surprise crippling the command structure and isolating systems. Allowing them to pick them off system by system.

[NeroonWilliams]

Let's get one point straight.  The purpose of the Reapers isn't to wipe out all intelligent life in the galaxy every 50,000 years or so (that's just how they go about performing their task).  The purpose of the Reapers is to prevent a singularity event from wiping out all life in the galaxy.  I know that's a fine line of distinction that most people gloss over, but there is a ZERO percent chance that the Reapers would ignore any planet that was hemorrhaging radio waves like Earth was.  Such a planet would be a prime suspect for being able to produce a singularity of the type observed multiple times by the Leviathans (one that eradicated all life of a single planet).

 

Given the rate of development of cultures across the galaxy, it would endanger the Reapers to leave behind any culture that had begun to write by the time of the current Harvest.  That happens to be right where the Protheans left the Asari at the end of their cycle.

[Undead Han]

I'm in the middle of Leviathan Wakes at the moment. Its fast-paced but the tv series are definitely more nuance and richer than the written narrative.

 

I like how it depicted the conditions of people who live in low gravity and the language barrier and cultural mix and the desperation of being in overpopulated heap of junk. Seeing conditions like this made more sense why humanity are desperate for more alien cooperation especially for better technology because there's always limits to human advancements and of course, the people who have access to them. 

 

I want to read the book, but I think I'm going to wait until the TV series is done. I kind of like watching the series and not knowing what is going to happen next.

 

I just watched all 4 episodes on syfy and I just want to say thank you for showing me this amazing series.This has to be one of the best sci-fi shows I have ever seen.

 

I agree. I can't remember a Sci Fi television show that I was hooked on this early. Its fantastic. Hopefully the rest of the series is just as good. 

 

My only complaints so far are that I have to wait so long for Episode 5 to premier, and that the sound quality wasn't as good as the rest of the production. I had to turn on the closed-captioning to understand all the dialogue. 

[Dantriges]

I would guess that if humanity was ignored by the reapers, the reapers would be in a lot of trouble in 50 000 years. Once the reapers finish harvesting the other species, and gone back to darkspace, humanity would most likely build up their military, and then help the species that were left alone by the reapers, to advance at a faster rate than usual. I would guess within a few centuries or whatever time, the galaxy would be very powerful. By the time the reapers show up, they might get their backsides kicked very badly. The only problem is knowing when the reapers will enter the galaxy. Heck. They may even attempt a mission to darkspace to deal with the reapers. That would be interesting. Who knows.

 

Or the darkspace relay is fixed, after the Reapers discovered the protheans little modification and had the leisure time to repair it, Sovereign calls in early when humanity advances at a faster pace than usual and is not prepared as no one knows that the Reapers are coming, the end.

 

Or could be, that we get killed by the Yahg or our own AIs, if the Catalyst was actually right.

[Trvp710]

The Yagh were left alone during the Reaper War as they were not a space faring species (early 20th century tech). So if you pick the Refusal ending, they would have a huge headstart and would likely be the leaders in the next cycle. As you said, it took the Asari tens of thousands of years to begin exploring the galaxy. The Yagh would probably begin exploration in about 200 years time.

[CptFalconPunch]

Depends on how long it takes the Reapers to mop up the rest and hunt down the last refugees. If Liara´s prediction about a hundred years come close, we would open the relay, stumble upon the harvest and get eaten.

 

Hah, that would suck.

[aoibhealfae]

I was reading through the timeline in Mass Effect wiki. Humanity was a space-faring civilization by mid-21st century. They have colonized the neighboring system and expanded within the Sol system by mid-22nd century before the discovery of the Prothean beacon and the relay network and the eezo. I reckoned humanity is still like in The Expanse, travelling in sublight speed and faced severe limitation and the big problem with terraforming planets and colonization, threats of interstellar wars etc. 

 

It was likely that reapers would still invade our system even if we don't have any interaction with the galactic civilization. We're still too much a big threat to them.