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[Chartis]

What is the downside of the developer telling us how to use the console commands on the PC? Having many people experiment and then many more try their vital file altering methods can seriously wreck a shiny game such as this. Why not just let the genuine method out?

[SirDeathIII]

I too would like an answer to this.

[Locoluke]

Because once you play the game a few times, you want to mess around with it a bit and have some fun doing things you normally cannot do normally. The choice to alter (and potentially ruin) the game for yourself is yours, and I prefer to make the decision on my own rather than have someone force it on me. It's my decisions if I want to run through the game on easymode with all powers and upgrades in order to see how fast I can complete it. I don't have a problem with the command console because it ultimately adds replay value to the game by increasing the possibilities.

[SirDeathIII]

It would be really nice if we could get a dev to comment on this.

[Chartis]

@Locoluke I think you misunderstood me; I want to know why they DON''T tell us the console code.

[Locoluke]

Chartis wrote...

@Locoluke I think you misunderstood me; I want to know why they DON''T tell us the console code.

Sorry, my bad Reading comprehension ftl.
In that case, I want to know the same thing.

[SirDeathIII]

For any interested here is a thread where some folk are working with the Coalesced.ini in notepad++ trying to re-enable  console funcionality.

http://www.gamefaqs....&topic=53222801

Modifié par SirDeathIII, 28 janvier 2010 - 03:07 .

[Locke Taelos]

They probably don't want to tell people because console codes can screw up the game. They're made for testing things. If they give the code out to the public then people will start hitting them up in tech support and freaking out about how they've corrupted their game save or screwed such in such up in the game. And Bioware isn't going to want to have to try to figure out what someone did and fix that. Instead...by letting people figure out the console commands themselves "off the record" they are not liable to what happens to the customer/player's experience.

[SirDeathIII]

I see what your saying but in my experience every other game that has an included dev console comes with the understanding that if you decide to go screwing around with it you are on your own.

[Locke Taelos]

Yeah...in the perfect setting, SirDeath, I agree with you. But pc gamers have become quite the aggressive and disagreeable lot compared to what they used to be back in the day. I mean just looking at how quickly people started flaming Bioware, EA, and god knows who else when they couldn't get the cerberus network running right away...you can kind of see why any company would NOT want to also have to contend with people upset over their own screwing up their game with console commands.



I think in the end it just saves them the headaches. But for those that are intelligent, reasonable, and responsible with such a tool, I completely agree it should be released. And who knows, maybe some Bioware employee will release such incognito so that the fan community can get it. Or we'll discover it for ourselves.

[laststarfighter]

I hope some one can enable the console like in ME, I sure could have used it this afternoon when I was stuck in the celing.....

[Martukis]

There is also the fact that these saved games are probably going to be importable to ME3 as well. As they spoke about ME1 cheats and those saves potentially causing issues, it is probably the same with ME2 and ME3.

[laststarfighter]

Martukis wrote...

There is also the fact that these saved games are probably going to be importable to ME3 as well. As they spoke about ME1 cheats and those saves potentially causing issues, it is probably the same with ME2 and ME3.

I dont think that's it. You had to use the console to break the game for your save not to work. Minor "cheats" like money and talents..ect had no effect on the save file and the console can save you from getting stuck in the roof.... also not a game breaker.

[laststarfighter]

any updates?

[oniid666]

Man, I just want the console so on my subsequent play-throughs I don't have to spend hours mining for research projects I already unlocked >_<

[NKato]

I think another sign of Bioware's shifts being detrimental to PC gamers is their increasingly common practice of disabling the console command panel in their games (Dragon Age Origins, ME1, and ME2), and making it harder with each game to re-enable it.



Bioware, could you guys please stop being hardasses about it? PC gamers love to explore their games after they finish their first playthrough, and the console command system enables that. By making it increasingly difficult to re-enable it, you're basically saying "F*ck you, PC gamers. No Console Command Toys For You!"



I am seriously disliking the way the video game industry has been regressing itself, with their console-centric mentality, piecemeal approach to content (snipping out stuff for DLC, when it should have been in the game to begin with), and their refusal to return to the ORIGINAL standards for PC games that had been established before consoles became the de-facto platform.



My recommendation, Bioware? Make it so that we can unlock the console command panel after beating your games on a certain difficulty setting. (Like, say.. Hard, not Normal) We'd be chill with that. And be sure to include a disclaimer saying that using the console command is at your own peril, and that it is an unsupported function of the game. Hey-yo, you're in the clear by then!



Also, side note to Mr. Woo: Game Developers are not really the dictators on what gets put into the game and what gets cut - it's the people who feed you the money. In this case, EA. So, I call bull****.

[Toka972]

To Nkato:

I doubt they 're reading you.



Anyway, i would like to personaly congratulate mister Mandela for all he did and... oops wrong forum.

[JayTheWolf]

I'd love to know to. After playing through the game several times, through and through, it'd be nice to be able to play with it a bit. Dragon Age was more user friendly. Hell, they even gave a tool for us to play with; the DA Toolset is amazing.

I'm not entirely sure why the console command was left out of ME and ME2.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

JayTheWolf wrote...

I'd love to know to. After playing through the game several times, through and through, it'd be nice to be able to play with it a bit. Dragon Age was more user friendly. Hell, they even gave a tool for us to play with; the DA Toolset is amazing.
I'm not entirely sure why the console command was left out of ME and ME2.

. are you a human being jay? or are you a dutch wolfman aka elf from mordor?

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 05 septembre 2010 - 06:04 .

[hallfing]

so does the me1 console cheats like EXP and money have any effect on the save file for ME2, ME3 import ?

[Bogsnot1]

Seenig as they revamped the levels and abilities system, as well as making you poor, from ME1 to ME2, I would hazard a guess that they wouldnt.
Playing around with Gibbeds to give yourself extra resources or ability points in ME2 may have an impact on your ME3 import however. I would say more focus would be on the points, than resources or credits.

[Unata]

In ME1 during the Benezia's fight so many times she drop me under the floor it became seriously frustrating to reload all the time, as well as getting stuck in the elevators or walls here and there, at least with the console enabled you could move yourself back into play, in ME2 you had to just suffer and reload from who knows how far back if you got stuck in the environment.

Personally I find that after you've run through a game with different profiles it becomes boring and you look for alternatives or something else to do until the makers give you addons or a sequel, but with being able to "mess around with the console" the game(s) take on a new dimension as well as a better understanding of the game(s)

Just my 2 credits worth

[star1]

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