Well after Gagarin, good on the eastern bloc for putting the first this, that, or the other in space while we put men on the moon.
And if the (speculative) protagonist name were a reference to Armstrong, Collins or Aldrin (oh look, more white males!), that might actually be relevant.
It's not an issue for me, but the new protagonist having a non-western last name wouldn't have been either. Especially not compared to "Ryder".
As long as the PC can sing "Space Oddity" I'll be happy.
As long as the PC can sing "Space Oddity" I'll be happy.
There better be a karaoke on that big ship!
Chelsea Manning. And this is getting increasingly off topic.
He was Bradley when he committed the crime, was convicted, and was put in jail. Its perfectly legitimate to refer to him as Bradley in general, but particularly in this context. That was not the mic drop you think it was.
It's not an issue for me, but the new protagonist having a non-western last name wouldn't have been either. Especially not compared to "Ryder".
What's wrong with Ryder? (Note: that question is to you, but also to everyone in general who is like "Why did it have to be Ryder?")
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What's wrong with Ryder? (Note: that question is to you, but also to everyone in general who is like "Why did it have to be Ryder?")
I think it's a great name! Anyway, my method of measuring the quality of the name involves a krogan calling me.
Either its all ok or none of it is.
Stealing $1 is the same as stealing $1,000,000.
You don't measure morality.
So should all crimes have a death penalty? Even your example is silly. Here in the US, stealing $1 would be a misdemeanor while stealing $1,000,000 would be a felony.
I just see no difference between imprisoning Manning and imprisoning a soviet whistle blower.
Nor do I see a diff between soviet executions and the Rosenbergs or Tokyo Rose.
The only actual diff is the ideology it was done in the name of.
Do you see a difference between executing someone for what they know vs what they did? Do you know the difference between a traitor and a spy?
Tokyo Rose was a generic name for Japanese propagandists. If you're referring to Iva Toguri, she wasn't executed.
Chelsea Manning. And this is getting increasingly off topic.
Don't start that. I don't know if it actually happened, but there was talk of them using "Bradley Manning committed the crimes, but this is Chelsey Manning, a different person," as a defense.
And if the (speculative) protagonist name were a reference to Armstrong, Collins or Aldrin (oh look, more white males!), that might actually be relevant.
It was relevant to what I quoted.
Must we really find a hidden meaning in the name? And if we do, can't we all just agree on something like: "Oh! it's because of that song that goes: Riders on the storm!!!" or something equally simple?
I don't care at all why Ryder is Ryder, or why Vega is mexican and not colombian, or why the alliance colours do not have pink and green......tho i will say that Hackett being argentine is something that makes me feel warm inside 
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Must we really find a hidden meaning in the name? And if we do, can't we all just agree on something like: "Oh! it's because of that song that goes: Riders on the storm!!!" or something equally simple?
I don't care at all why Ryder is Ryder, or why Vega is mexican and not colombian, or why the alliance colours do not have pink and green......tho i will say that Hackett being argentine is something that makes me feel warm inside
Alan Vega wasn't Mexican.
stars stars stars in the universe.....
...keep Riding, never stop Riding
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Alan Vega wasn't Mexican.
stars stars stars in the universe.....
...keep Riding, never stop Riding
Alan? Wasn't it James? I pictured him as mexican because of the lingo. Anyway, I don't consider it offensive at all xd
As for the song, EXACTLY! it's Ryder because it fits that song and period (i just wanted to give some publicity to The Doors 
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this will be my PC theme song
Alan? Wasn't it James? I pictured him as mexican because of the lingo. Anyway, I don't consider it offensive at all xd
As for the song, EXACTLY! it's Ryder because it fits that song and period
Alan Vega was a member of the band Suicide who originally performed the song Ghost Rider. The sound of the Rollins version seems inspired by the Doors. It was great of you to give a shout out to the Doors as their song was inspired by Ghost Riders in the Sky (which you probably know 
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Alan Vega was a member of the band Suicide who originally performed the song Ghost Rider. The sound of the Rollins version seems inspired by the Doors. It was great of you to give a shout out to the Doors as their song was inspired by Ghost Riders in the Sky (which you probably know
THIS is why i love forums! You always get the chance to learn something new! Hi5, mate!
What's wrong with Ryder? (Note: that question is to you, but also to everyone in general who is like "Why did it have to be Ryder?")
Nothing's wrong with it per se, I just don't like it. It puts me in the mind of dashing and wisecracking rogues who live on the edge, which is a tiresome cliché if that doesn't make me sound too snobbish. Joker's name could have been Ryder. Han Solo's name could have been Ryder. Makes me want to gnash my teeth. In addition, the English word for rider is very nearly the words for knight and for clearing out in my native language, which makes it sound like a lot less of a name to me. We don't have the same fascination with using otherwise normal words as names that English-speaking countries do. I think we have Sten, which means stone or stones, and that's it.
We'll get over it soon enough, names are something you stop paying attention to really fast, but something less western would have suited me just fine. I could've played a space explorer named Tereshkov/a with no complaints. Depending on how much you'd be allowed to insist on the proper pronunciation in-game.
My PC will be groovin' to
My PC will be groovin' to
Cool song! I get the feeling that we are going to hear a lot of songs about riding in the near future!
why not call the protagonist Von Braun? He's only the greatest rocket scientist of all times
Actually good topic. Bioware is going mainstream with the name- that might not be Ryder, but if it's not it's another English surname-, because that is most accepted worldwide. US is cool, English is cool, least people unhappy with the name. I'd personally love if we got non-English surname, but I think lot of people would complain and some might think that it would limit roleplaying- force us to play Russian character just based on surname. Not sure how that works with Ryder though, does it force us to play US, UK, Australia/Canada/New Zealand.. umm.. character or not.
Owned by an American company and catering to an American audience, but yeah.
Not to mention Noah's Ark. Maybe the Milky way was 'flooded' with reapers so we had to leave.
You have a bad habit of making up your own version of other peoples conversations. And then carrying on as if you're right.So should all crimes have a death penalty? Even your example is silly. Here in the US, stealing $1 would be a misdemeanor while stealing $1,000,000 would be a felony.
Do you see a difference between executing someone for what they know vs what they did? Do you know the difference between a traitor and a spy?
Tokyo Rose was a generic name for Japanese propagandists. If you're referring to Iva Toguri, she wasn't executed.
Don't start that. I don't know if it actually happened, but there was talk of them using "Bradley Manning committed the crimes, but this is Chelsey Manning, a different person," as a defense.
It was relevant to what I quoted.
Actually good topic. Bioware is going mainstream with the name- that might not be Ryder, but if it's not it's another English surname-, because that is most accepted worldwide. US is cool, English is cool, least people unhappy with the name. I'd personally love if we got non-English surname, but I think lot of people would complain and some might think that it would limit roleplaying- force us to play Russian character just based on surname. Not sure how that works with Ryder though, does it force us to play US, UK, Australia/Canada/New Zealand.. umm.. character or not.
From my argentine pov: roleplaying because of names and it's origins is almost silly and here is why: Argentina is country made of people from Italy and Spain in it's vast majority but it also had (and of course has) lots of people from England, Portugal, Germany and France, many thousands of jews are neighbours to a mostly catholic population but nobody acts like it's part of a majority/minority..we are all locals..and the same time, we are not, since the very nature of the country is that it doesn't have a singular culture, religion or ideology. SO...you could be Ryder in Argentina and very few would be surprised. For example: I'm Luca and i'm no roman xd
SO: just because the name is Ryder, doesn't mean that i don't get to roleplay her as if she were me because it's too alien or something..for me, it's cool..but also normal xd
why not call the protagonist Von Braun? He's only the greatest rocket scientist of all times
I am surprised that Bioware has yet to have anything in Mass Effect named after Wernher von Braun.
I am surprised that Bioware has yet to have anything in Mass Effect named after Wernher von Braun.
There's a pretty good reason for that.....
And if the (speculative) protagonist name were a reference to Armstrong, Collins or Aldrin (oh look, more white males!), that might actually be relevant.
I hope that wasn't a serious post.
Who cares what gender or color Armstrong, Collins, or Aldrin were? Should they not be remembered as heroes or pioneers in space exploration, just because they lived in a time and place where gender or race-based discrimination was more common and overt?
If Bioware includes some sort of easter egg that pays tribute to those astronauts, particularly Armstrong...who died in 2012, I think the devs would be deserving of praise for it rather than criticism.
Having said that...I'm also digging the tribute to Sally Ride.
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