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Would you accept Shep being 'Lazarused' again in another ME game?


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Chugster

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I was browsing for some FemShep pics and found a couple of cool pics (they are safe for work) that really fit into my own headcanon:

 

http://www.deviantar...rsion-291890744

 

http://www.deviantar...trait-351615600

 

And it got me wondering, would it be completely wrong for Liara, using her Shadow Broker skills, to dig up the Lazarus tech and bring Shep back to life so they can live a long and happy live together or even for BW to make another Shep based game?



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No, when I think of it from Shepard's perspective; after all the adventures and fast paced life, I don't think she'll enjoy life as it is. Even if she stays as a soldier, she'll get bored. Think about it "If you killed the most dangerous thing in the galaxy, that leaves... us (idle)" Grunt. After the reapers dealt with, the rest would be a piece of cake for her.

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What an absolutely horrifying idea. You claimed it was safe for work, but my boss looked up my browser history and now he won't even look me in the eye. If my family ever learns that I was in this thread, they will disown me. I would deserve nothing less.


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lol, I cant help it if  I want my FemShep and Liara to have a happy ending...they both deserver it



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This is what I call pulling a Revan. You can do so much with a character to a point they outstayed their welcome. We don't want that for Shepard regardless how we feel about him/her.


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I couldn't accept Shepard pulling a Lazarus the first time.

 

So no


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Depends on who exactly does the Lazarussing and why. The Lazarus Project was basically the Illusive man spending ridiculous amounts of money and breaking a bunch of laws to bring one person back to life, and whether or not post-Lazarus Shepard really is the same person s/he was before is left very ambiguous. The Alliance could never make a policy of that, and I doubt Liara has the pull or the resources to make it happen.



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That would be hard to do if T'soni was killed on the beam run :devil:


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Nah his/her death is the key note of the series.



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Ick. No.

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As much as I want more of Shep I don't think bringing him back just for the hell of it would be wise. But I do wonder if there are more clones of him around and/or if Cerberus could make more ... there are enough crazy scientists around



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I'll avoid the whole for character reasons since I don't want to get that lot rolling again. For another game though, definitely not. As much as I love Shepard and crew it's time for another story with completely different characters, and that would still be the case no matter how ME3 had turned out.
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I'll avoid the whole for character reasons since I don't want to get that lot rolling again. For another game though, definitely not. As much as I love Shepard and crew it's time for another story with completely different characters, and that would still be the case no matter how ME3 had turned out.

 

I know what you mean, I suppose if the endings didn't lack the closure a lot of us wanted then questions like mine would be moot....I still haven't forgiven BW for the ending of ME3



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I still try to headcanon the Lazarus project out of the game. Sadly, it doesn't work.



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It was stupid the first time, so it would be worse to rehash it.

 

 

 

I still try to headcanon the Lazarus project out of the game. Sadly, it doesn't work.

 

Why not? Shepard doesn't think about it except for one scene in ME3. Why should you?


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My Shepard is already alive and well and enjoying her retirement ;) I have no problem head-canoning that.

And I don't ever want another Lazarus Project. I'd prefer a coma or something similar, not death and brought back to life, then not even talking about it like it's no big deal what has happened.



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Perhaps as a cameo, or even a temporary squadmate, but that would be difficult to pull off.

 

BioWare has basically said that Shepard's story is done, so it's a moot point.

 

However, I don't think it's too ridiculous to find tales of Shepard's exploits in a new M.E. game, whether legendary rumors, or idle chatter around an extranet terminal.  Like how BioWare likes to sneak in call-backs and references to other games in their franchises.

"It tastes of despair!"

"At least he died at Chateau Haine!"

"The name "Mirabelle" was already taken."

"How does a dwarf get named Shepard?"

"The trebuchets need calibrating..."

"I should go."

 

And so on.



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No. The Lazarus project was a really bad plot device, I don't want to see something like it ever again x.x

And my Shepard is alive. He survived the blow in the crucible and was rescued by the Aliance. He spent a long time in a coma, and wen he waked up, Kaidan was by his side. It's good enough, and it doesn't need something so obnoxious as that project. Call the vorcha, BURN IT WITH FYAAAH!



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Nah his/her death is the key note of the series.

this is incorrect. the key note of the original trilogy was taken away by starbrat and the RGB endings we received.

 

this is the reality we live in. deal with it.

 

back to the topic though. Yes i'd accept canon where shepard was lazarused yet again. because everyone has their own story for their mass effect universe; that by no means should deprive bioware of solidifying their own story. how will this change anything from what it is now anyway?

 

where are we exactly with the original trilogy? nowhere. because everyone knows shepard deserved more. that's about as resounding in everyone's minds as was the efficiency of the genophage.



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You mean invalidate Mass Effect 3's ending all over again.....it's practically tradition.

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Lazarus'd- no, cloned, yes!

 

I'd love a ME4 where Liara clones Shepard a few hundred years later, teaches via Okeer's method based on info and personality gleaned from her mind melding trick and maybe Javik's memory shard - all because the Catalyst/Reapers were actually a corruption of what the Leviathan creatures created, brought about by a multi-galactic race of AIs hell bent on forcing the Universe to conform to their idea of what's proper..

 

The gist of it would have: Shadowbroker Liara discovering hints about the real truth about the Reapers; Shepard being recreated; exploration of the Milkyway; discovery of a Super Relay; Shepard deciding to either destroy the SR (then retire), or use it to go on a quest to save the universe from the evil AIs (perhaps never to be heard from again). Of course there is always the possibility of killing off Shepard instead if the player didn't recruit the right team, etc.

 

There would not be any need to invalidate lore but it would be necessary to either make the best ending of ME3 canonical (that's the one where Shepard destroys the Reapers and has enough galactic readiness to be shown the breath scene), or work around the Control and Synthesis endings (should be easy to do since either of the science-fantasy endings can result in the knowledge of all the previous cycles becoming available, and there has been enough time to figure it out).

 

The few hundred years time lapse makes it easy to dump all but the young Asari, Krogan, and synthetics; and dismiss the events of the ME Trilogy as being inconsequential in ME4. Liara, Grunt and EDI (Joker made sure she was repaired, if necessary, but she may not have come back exactly like she was before) would be the only potential carry over of significant NPCs from the ME Trilogy.

 

Another adventure with Shepard, in a story with a better ending than ME3, that furthers the exploration of organics vs synthetics, transhumanism, and authoritarianism... I'd probably pre-order that (for-sure pre-order, if a reasonably priced trilogy-to-complete DLC upgrade was released beforehand).



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I rather they remake the game and shelve the Lazarus ****. At least Bioware learn their lesson with KOTFE.


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My Shepard is already alive and well and enjoying her retirement ;) I have no problem head-canoning that.

And I don't ever want another Lazarus Project. I'd prefer a coma or something similar, not death and brought back to life, then not even talking about it like it's no big deal what has happened.

 

And actually, there surely are people who didn't help Liara to become the SB, so that would only work for some people in the end anyway.

 

As right as you are about Lazarus, Liara becomes the Shadow Broker anyway.


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As right as you are about Lazarus, Liara becomes the Shadow Broker anyway.

 

You learn something new every day :) I guess I hadn't talked to her when I tried out a bit of ME3 with no import from ME2. Thanks, I will edit it out since it's completely wrong :D



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If that happens, it won't be with Liara's help. Samantha knows that femshep and Miranda are good friends. She would get a hold of Miranda to do what she did in ME2. hahaha


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