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[RZIBARA]

Thoughts?

 

I personally think the ME series could borrow a lot from the Star Wars movies (4-7, not those other pieces of trash). I personally like the smaller cast of characters in comparison to the huge cast the ME games always have. I think a team of like 4 characters allows for much more focus on each character. You know, unlike ME2 which had like 12 squadmates, the majority of which were half assed and just kind of there.

 

Or how to make a much more compelling villain. Kylo Ren was a fantastic character who had depth, I would love to see ME get a villain like him again, the closest we got to something like this was Saren in ME1.

 

Here is fantastic quote from one of the threads participants and how MEA can learn from the Force Awakens as well:

 

How to ignore the terribad stuff that threatened to turn a franchise into a joke and go back to the roots that made it fun to begin with

 

[kalikilic]

must bioware learn from every single piece of media that is released? whether its movie or game?

 

because it surely feels like one of these "What Bioware can learn from..." threads pop up everytime something "big" comes out.

 

what? do bioware know nothing about making games/stories?

[SardaukarElite]

Apparently great characters and glorious nostalgia tripping are able to make for not having an actual plot with most people, is one lesson. 

 

Um, something positive... T-70s are gorgeous, no that probably doesn't help. Pilots are cool, your main characters should all be pilots, or at least able to sit in the gunner seat. That opening shot of the Star Destroyer was amazing, steal that.

[Heathen Oxman]

What can Bioware learn from Heathen Oxman?

 

Ignore everyone and do whatever you want to do, regardless of the opinions of the Peanut Gallery.

 

Also, not voting for Trump.

[RZIBARA]

Apparently great characters and glorious nostalgia tripping are able to make for not having an actual plot with most people, is one lesson. 

 

Um, something positive... T-70s are gorgeous, no that probably doesn't help. Pilots are cool, your main characters should all be pilots, or at least able to sit in the gunner seat. That opening shot of the Star Destroyer was amazing, steal that.

 

No plot? Did you watch the same movie? Poe is a pilot, Han Solo was always a pilot as well. So Luke being able to fly an x-wing is fine in episode 4 but Rey struggling to fly the falcon is bad? And Finn sitting in the gunner seat is also bad? Ok.

[kalikilic]

What can Bioware learn from Heathen Oxman?

 

Ignore everyone and do whatever you want to do, regardless of the opinions of the Peanut Gallery.

 

Also, not voting for Trump.

in b4 the "What can bioware learn from the Peanut Movie" thread is made.

[Akrabra]

must bioware learn from every single piece of media that is released? whether its movie or game?

 

because it surely feels like one of these "What Bioware can learn from..." threads pop up everytime something "big" comes out.

 

what? do bioware know nothing about making games/stories?

Because when people have a favourite thing nowadays they want to see that thing in everything. It is getting quite silly. Bioware should make the game they want to make and we'll play it or we will not. 

[Iakus]

Thoughts?

How to ignore the terribad stuff that threatened to turn a franchise into a joke and go back to the roots that made it fun to begin with

[pkypereira]

Thoughts?

 

I personally think the ME series could borrow a lot from the Star Wars movies (4-7, not those other pieces of trash). I personally like the smaller cast of characters in comparison to the huge cast the ME games always have. I think a team of like 4 characters allows for much more focus on each character. You know, unlike ME2 which had like 12 squadmates, the majority of which were half assed and just kind of there.

 

Or how to make a much more compelling villain. Kylo Ren was a fantastic character who had depth, I would love to see ME get a villain like him again, the closest we got to something like this was Saren in ME1

 

I personally thought Kylo Ren's character makes no sense. He is wanting to be like Darth Vader when he never even met him or knew how he thought or what his goals were. And don't get me started on Kylo Ren's background...that seriously disappointed me.

[pkypereira]

No plot? Did you watch the same movie? Poe is a pilot, Han Solo was always a pilot as well. So Luke being able to fly an x-wing is fine in episode 4 but Rey struggling to fly the falcon is bad? And Finn sitting in the gunner seat is also bad? Ok.

 

Finn spent half the time trying to figure out how to use the gunner seat.

[SardaukarElite]

No plot? Did you watch the same movie? Poe is a pilot, Han Solo was always a pilot as well. So Luke being able to fly an x-wing is fine in episode 4 but Rey struggling to fly the falcon is bad? And Finn sitting in the gunner seat is also bad? Ok.

 

What? Apart from the plot joke I'm listing things I liked about the film. You asked for what BioWare could learn from Force Awakens right?

 

Po and Rey are cool, Fin can gun so he can tag along. Rey's inverse Pugachev's cobra thing was crazy awesome. Pity about all the attempts at slapstick comedy with the Falcon bouncing but whatever. 

 

I thought it was a stupid film but I'm paying it credit for what it did right.

[RZIBARA]

How to ignore the terribad stuff that thretaened to turn a franchise into a joke and go back to the roots that made it fun to begin with

 

Pretty much. I never even thought of that haha

[Han Shot First]

Star Wars is so different than Mass Effect that it is hard to draw comparisons. Despite being set in space, Star Wars is really more of a fantasy series than Sci Fi. It has a lot more in common with a series like Lord of the Rings than it does Mass Effect, which is more similar to Star Trek. 

 

But, stunning vistas maybe? The Force Awakens had a few shots that were amazing and really immersed you in the film universe, like that one of Rey travelling through the desert on her speeder, with the massive wreckage of a downed Star Destroyer on the horizon.

 

Slight off topic but I thought the film was great. It was far better than all the prequel films, and about equal with Return of the Jedi for me. I'd rate only The Empire Strikes Back and A New Hope as being better films, in that order.

 

Massive film spoiler ahoy...

 

Spoiler

RIP Han

 

[Steelcan]

I agree with Iakus, The Force Awakens captured everything people loved about the original trilogy.

BioWare it seems doesn't really know what that is for Mass Effect

[Steelcan]

However I disagree with Han. Mass Effect has much more in common with Star Wars or LotR than it does Star Trek.

[RZIBARA]

Star Wars is so different than Mass Effect that it is hard to draw comparisons. Despite being set in space, Star Wars is really more of a fantasy series than Sci Fi. It has a lot more in common with a series like Lord of the Rings than it does Mass Effect, which is more similar to Star Trek. 

 

But, stunning vistas maybe? The Force Awakens had a few shots that were amazing and really immersed you in the film universe, like that one of Rey travelling through the desert on her speeder, with the massive wreckage of a downed Star Destroyer on the horizon.

 

Slight off topic but I thought the film was great. It was far better than all the prequel films, and about equal with Return of the Jedi for me. I'd rate only The Empire Strikes Back and A New Hope as being better films, in that order.

 

Massive film spoiler ahoy...

 

 

I also thought the movie was fantastic. I think I like more than ROTJ too, I enjoyed it from start to finish. And this is a real star wars movie too, unlike those other abominations. JJ did an excellent job. 

 

I even thought Kylo Ren was one of the best villains in the series. He was better developed in his first movie than even Vader was in a New Hope. And the new cast are very likable. 

 

I could honestly talk about the movie all day, the only really disappointment in the movie was Phasma, but Im pretty sure she will be back in the next movie

[Hanako Ikezawa]

However I disagree with Han. Mass Effect has much more in common with Star Wars or LotR than it does Star Trek.

Yeah. Mass Effect is a space opera, just like Star Wars. It may try to be more grounded, but it is the same kind of universe as Star Wars. 

 

I also thought the movie was fantastic. I think I like more than ROTJ too, I enjoyed it from start to finish. And this is a real star wars movie too, unlike those other abominations. JJ did an excellent job. 

 

I even thought Kylo Ren was one of the best villains in the series. He was better developed in his first movie than even Vader was in a New Hope. And the new cast are very likable. 

 

I could honestly talk about the movie all day, the only really disappointment in the movie was Phasma, but Im pretty sure she will be back in the next movie

Kylo Ren is my least favorite Dark Side user in the series. If I had to list the Dark Side users in the movies from best to worst, it would be: Darth Vader, Darth Maul(man was criminally underused), Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus, and then Kylo Ren. I'm more interested in his master Supreme Leader Snoke. 

 

They confirmed Captain Phasma will be in the sequels. I believe they also said she'd have a bigger role in those.

[goishen]

This is going to end well.

 

/sarcasm off

[Steelcan]

Kylo Ren isn't Sith, he's a jedi corrupted by the Dark Side but there's no indication he subscribes to Sith ideology and iirc Abrams said explicitly he wasn't one.

The Supreme Leader may be using the Dark Side as well, but I'm not sure he's a Sith either. The fcat that he doesn't use a Darth in there is indicative.

[Han Shot First]

Kylo Ren and Snoke aren't Sith. They're part of a new group of force users known as the Knights of Ren. 

 

Or at least new in the sense that we haven't heard of them in the series before. I'm sure they'll be given a backstory later on, that establishes them as having been around for awhile.

[Bizantura]

Bioware should be nothing more then itself and establish its own identity.

 

I think ME allready has allready its own identity in danger of watering down due to ending debacle.

 

Just imagine a learnt copy potpourri of star wars, fallout, witcher, ect....

 

The game would be chaotic shizofrenic in the best case scenario.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Kylo Ren isn't Sith, he's a jedi corrupted by the Dark Side but there's no indication he subscribes to Sith ideology and iirc Abrams said explicitly he wasn't one.

The Supreme Leader may be using the Dark Side as well, but I'm not sure he's a Sith either. The fcat that he doesn't use a Darth in there is indicative.

That's true. Though for Snoke, him not using Darth doesn't mean he isn't a Sith. Darth Sidious was referred to as Emperor Palpatine by everyone, even Darth Vader. The only people who referred to him by his Sith title were Darth Maul and Darth Tyranus, who also went by Count Dooku to all but Palpatine(and Jango Fett when he hired him for the Clone army). Andy Sekis who plays Snoke mentioned that Snoke was old, like really old. So he may be an ancient Sith or something. Like you said, it's in the dark which is one reason I'm interested in finding out more about him. 

[Iakus]

I also thought the movie was fantastic. I think I like more than ROTJ too, I enjoyed it from start to finish. And this is a real star wars movie too, unlike those other abominations. JJ did an excellent job. 

 

The only problem I think I had with it was I think they overplayed Rey being a bad@$$ a bit.  that could have done with a more gradual buildup.

[goishen]

That's because they knew him before he became Emperor.  Once he became Emperor, there was no need to call him Darth anymore.  And plus it's a respect thing.  You wouldn't call the president senator, would you?

[Han Shot First]

That's true. Though for Snoke, him not using Darth doesn't mean he isn't a Sith. Darth Sidious was referred to as Emperor Palpatine by everyone, even Darth Vader. The only people who referred to him by his Sith title were Darth Maul and Darth Tyranus, who also went by Count Dooku to all but Palpatine. Like you said, it's in the dark which is one reason I'm interested. Andy Sekis who plays Snoke mentioned that Snoke was old, like really old. So he may be an ancient Sith or something.

 

JJ Abrams already confirmed that Kylo Ren wasn't a Sith. In a pre-release interview he said that he wasn't a Sith, and that he was part of another group called the Knights of Ren. Presumably that's the case for Snoke as well, since we know he's a force sensitive.

 

I'm also guessing that is why he carries a slightly different weapon than the Sith.