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[animedreamer]

No, they should not. I want a full story with a complete ending or, at least, an implication of continuation. If I wanted to play episodic games, I'd play Walking Dead. Ugh.

 

While I don't disagree, as I'd like to play the full game as well, one of the main reasons why some companies do this is to get the game out sooner than later. FF7 Remake doesn't sound like it was in production for that long, maybe like and year and a half in development and its coming out at the end of this year, that's pretty fast going by today's development cycles, each episode is only going to come out just as fast as all the groundwork is likely already in place, meaning they know the engine they're making it on and its just a matter of doing it at that point.

 

I can only imagine what ME would have been like if all 3 games were made on ME1's game engine, this isn't to say they would have been better but they would have likely had less hick ups that needed patching at the expense of a prettier game.

 

Square-Enix gave their reason for doing it this way and while it's not what I wanted it does sound believable. Maybe think about it as the originals Disk Swap situation after completing a certain part of the game. They are definitely going to bundle it at some point when the entire game is finished so I wouldn't worry about that.

[Jedi Comedian]

Not a chance. And even with a full game, I still don't like the fact that in order to get the whole story you need the DLC (DA2, ME3 and DAI come to mind).

[Statichands]

What happened to demos?

[rocklikeafool]

While I don't disagree, as I'd like to play the full game as well, one of the main reasons why some companies do this is to get the game out sooner than later.

I don't think this something that applies to the Mass Effect games. We all know that they're going to release the full version of Andromeda. It's one thing to do it with FF7, which is a total overhaul of a game that's a beloved classic from 1997. (It's almost 20 years old by now!) That kind of makes sense, because it allows them to have less developers working on a remake, thereby giving them room to focus on developing more (new) games.

 

 

 

FF7 Remake doesn't sound like it was in production for that long, maybe like and year and a half in development and its coming out at the end of this year, that's pretty fast going by today's development cycles

 

But they don't have to create new story, new mechanics (mechanics will probably be reworked), new world/universe, etc., etc., etc. The bulk of the game is already done for them, as the game is already an established classic. All the remake devs have to do is to create the game on new technology with (modern) gameplay/mechanics improvements and new graphics.

 

 

 

I can only imagine what ME would have been like if all 3 games were made on ME1's game engine, this isn't to say they would have been better but they would have likely had less hick ups that needed patching at the expense of a prettier game.

 

All 3 games WERE made on ME1's game engine. All 3 games used the Unreal 3 Engine ( https://en.wikipedia...i/Unreal_Engine ). Granted, they probably used updated versions of it for ME2 and then 3; but it was the same core engine. 
Note that Andromeda is going to use the Frostbite 3 Engine ( https://en.wikipedia...e_(game_engine) ), which is a much newer engine and takes advantage of several new graphical technologies.

 

 

Square-Enix gave their reason for doing it this way and while it's not what I wanted it does sound believable. Maybe think about it as the originals Disk Swap situation after completing a certain part of the game. They are definitely going to bundle it at some point when the entire game is finished so I wouldn't worry about that.

 

The MAIN reason SE is doing it this way is because they know people will pay good cash for an episodic version of a FF7 remake, because it's one of their most beloved games ever. 

[animedreamer]

The MAIN reason SE is doing it this way is because they know people will pay good cash for an episodic version of a FF7 remake, because it's one of their most beloved games ever. 

 

I doubt that, namely because we don't know what the price of each episode will be, granted any more than 20 bucks would seem kind of suspicious, as was said this is a remake and they've been pretty good when it comes to releasing tiles even updated ones or remade ones, usually never costing the same as a new tile. We don't even know how they plan on distributing it whether it'll be disk or DL. It's to early to start calling them on bad business practices when they've never done anything like this before. Also I think a lot of people are in underestimating the scope of what they are doing, they aren't just releasing the game they're remaking it, there is supposed to be content that was never actually in ff7 being added to the game in addition to the stuff we will recognize, and combat and other mechanics will likely be totally different from anything we've known in the original expect to see materia overhauled as well so yeah it would  take them time to reimagine all this stuff, if they did the entire story in one go we'd likely be waiting another year for the localization.

 

Also the trilogy is done and over with, people who say things like "It wouldn't work with ME" are kind of fooling themselves, they could definitely write a story that continues on a episodic like progression with no set goal like Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, the real reason why ME fans would say it wouldn't work is because they aren't used to it since it didn't work that way in the trilogy. It's their creature comfort and they don't want it to be changed and thats fine, but lets not lie to ourselves and say "it wouldn't work." anything can be spaced it with filler when it comes to fiction, it's why the genre has continues on today as strong as it does, entire franchises have been founded on spacing out set stories.

[LinksOcarina]

What happened to demos?

 

Few people played them to be worthwhile.

 

Although they are still used from time to time. EA tends to have early access now, which is a demo in all but name only. 

[Linkenski]

First of all: This is a perfect example of how ignorant journalism is in gaming. It was never said quote-unquote that FFVII Remake would be "EPISODIC" it was said it would be in "Multi-part release" probably meaning like FFXIII, XIII-2 and XIII-3 Lightning Returns, but not like a Telltale games game.

 

Secondly, no not in a million years. one of the top-3 qualities of Bioware games IMO is their expansiveness and their completeness at launch (with narrative-breaking bugs everywhere until 3 months in). I'm generally against turning established game franchises into episodic sequels. It would be terrible.

[KamuiStorm]

No. Like others have stated I too want a game that is complete(or as complete as one can expect with stupid dlc) and preferably a sign of continuation over ending. I love series not just a one shot(would love if singularity received a sequel).

[Laughing_Man]

What happened to demos?

 

I'm guessing that demos have disappeared more or less because they help the consumer more than they help the company.

 

You don't invest so much in PR and marketing only to not have your "mark" commit to buying at the first opportunity,

it is especially dangerous precisely because of the hype and marketing - it creates unrealistic expectations, a demo might be a painful return to reality.

 

A Demo gets in the way of the "Call to Action", someone might decide to wait for a sale, or goddess forbid - not buy at all.

 

Although they are still used from time to time. EA tends to have early access now, which is a demo in all but name only. 

 

You forgot to mention one important detail: "Early Access" games are rarely free as opposed to demo. (just check Steam)

 

In fact, "early access" is more a service to the company than to the consumers.

It's an automatic defense against flaws, and in many cases the gamers are there to do work that by all rights should have been done in-house before release.

[DarthLaxian]

okay so i heard that ff7 is getting a remake. however, a lot of people got mad that they are releasing it in several episodes.

 

i liked the point someone else made.

you can buy and play one part. if you dont like it you dont have to buy the rest.

it can also give the developer feedback on what to improve mid-game.

 

No way! I am not watching a TV-Show, I am playing a GAME and when I am playing I want to be able to play for not only a few hours at a time -.- (not to mention that I hate being left hanging - I dislike this in books and TV-Shows already, so why would I want this in games now?)

 

I hope they don't go for that! Hell, I'd hope that they scrap their excessive DLC making, too (Include that stuff in the main game damn you - particularly if it influences the story or contains the damned epilogue like that last DLC for DA:I!)

 

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