The well of sorrow is incapable to detect Solas as the Dread wolf for what reason exactly?
Well of sorrow is incapable to detect Solas?
#1
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 11:56
#2
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 12:01
It wasn't built for that, as it is a thing associated with Mythal.
#3
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 02:14
Well of Sorrows
All things Mythal, Dreadwolf not included.
#4
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 02:23
It's a well of ancient knowledge. Why would ancient knowledge know what Solas looks like today? What makes you think there would be something "detectable" about Solas being the Dread Wolf? He doesn't have any of the associated power at the point you get to the well, so what is there to detect? Or maybe the well doesn't want you to know? It seems that Mythal and Solas were buddies, so maybe it's on his side.
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#5
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 04:22
It's a well of ancient knowledge. Why would ancient knowledge know what Solas looks like today? What makes you think there would be something "detectable" about Solas being the Dread Wolf? He doesn't have any of the associated power at the point you get to the well, so what is there to detect? Or maybe the well doesn't want you to know? It seems that Mythal and Solas were buddies, so maybe it's on his side.
The owner of the well of sorrow doesn't even know who Mythal is until the summoning.
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#6
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 05:33
Suppose you were a female elf who romanced Solas. What if the reason Solas absorbed Mythal in the ending sequence was in order to save you from her service after you drank from the well? Either you would be now totally free or bound to Solas, of which is what you wanted anyway when you romanced him.
In either case, if you drank from the well you should now know who Solas is.
#8
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 07:16
The Inquisitor has difficulty hearing the whispers of the Well, something that really frustrates Morrigan. Also, perhaps, the Well is heard when it truly wants to be. If that's the case the Well would have wanted the Inquisitor to track Solas down, as it did provide aid in getting through Fen'Harel's guardians.
I didn't see this in my game as my Inquisitor chose something else (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but if you ask Solas "So you're like Mythal now?" he replies something to the effect of "No, I'm just me." Some have interpreted this as evidence that Solas did not absorb Mythal's soul, but her power. I'm not sure where Mythal's will is. I'm really curious to see where this goes in DA4.
#9
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 08:14
The fact you're bound to your ex makes Solavellan hell that much more darkly alluring
L O L. So true.
Plus if the Inquisitor drinks, they have trouble deciphering what the well is saying most of the time, I believe. That's part of the reason why Morrigan was so insistent that she be the one who consume it. I assume by the end of Inquisition, he or she is still having issues with being able to understand what the well is telling them. I would think that if the Inquisitor drank the well, there would be some *major* issues following Solas's whatever the f**k he did to Mythal at the end of the game.
But really, who knows what Bioware has up their sleeve? It'll certainly be interesting.
#11
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 08:45
L O L. So true.
Plus if the Inquisitor drinks, they have trouble deciphering what the well is saying most of the time, I believe. That's part of the reason why Morrigan was so insistent that she be the one who consume it. I assume by the end of Inquisition, he or she is still having issues with being able to understand what the well is telling them. I would think that if the Inquisitor drank the well, there would be some *major* issues following Solas's whatever the f**k he did to Mythal at the end of the game.
But really, who knows what Bioware has up their sleeve? It'll certainly be interesting.
Maybe the Anchor and the Well don't play nice together, post Trespasser the Inquisitor might hear the voices just fine.
But I kinda doubt the Well is going to be a major factor going forward, at most it could get the Kieran treatment -quickly tied up and never heard about again.
#12
Posté 24 décembre 2015 - 09:26
Regardless of what Morrigan claim we know that the well of sorrow and it's voices are manipulated by Mythal, it is not a matter of being qualified, this is a religious artifact and it's voices speak at Mythal's command.L O L. So true.
Plus if the Inquisitor drinks, they have trouble deciphering what the well is saying most of the time, I believe. That's part of the reason why Morrigan was so insistent that she be the one who consume it. I assume by the end of Inquisition, he or she is still having issues with being able to understand what the well is telling them. I would think that if the Inquisitor drank the well, there would be some *major* issues following Solas's whatever the f**k he did to Mythal at the end of the game.
But really, who knows what Bioware has up their sleeve? It'll certainly be interesting.
If she want you to hear them the voices will be there, otherwise they will remain in silence.
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#13
Posté 25 décembre 2015 - 04:21
Well, the Well didn't react to one of the elves of old in any form, but Abelas didn't miss Solas' special "condition".
I guess the elves born before the Veil was created still possess the ability to see all things related to the Fade and the Beyond in the real world. Kieran and Morrigan also possess it, as Kieran remarks on the thing in the Inquisitor's hand to his mother.
#14
Posté 25 décembre 2015 - 01:34
The voices of the Well of Sorrows would know who Solas is.They are tied to Mythal ,and she knows.
You do not have power over the voices , again Mythal hold the leash and you only get what she wants you to learn.
An example of this : Morrigan.
After someone drink from the Well , Mythal learns where Kieran is.
Even after drinking Morrigan doesn't know the true identity of Mythal , she also doesn't know right away how to shapeshift into a dragon.
Knowing Morrigan and her lust for freedom and power , I doubt she just drank , thought oh well I'm bound to Mythal WTV , and didn't try to investigate further.
She tells you she's going to need to do some ritual or something to be able to match Cory dragons , but what happens in game is ...she meets Flemythal , and after that she's ready , she didn't need ritual or anything complicated ,just Mythal allowing the voices to teach the dragon form.
Anyway in short , Mythal has ultimate power over the Well and its voices , all the elves who gave themselves to the well were bound to Mythal , so you'll only get informations fitting Mythal's agenda and nothing else.
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#15
Posté 25 décembre 2015 - 01:39
Didn't people read the fine print on the bottom of the Well? "Dread Wolf radar not included."
In their defence, who DOES read the fine print these days?
Other than the paranoid folk among us that don't want to get screwed over. (aka me)
#16
Posté 25 décembre 2015 - 02:22
Makes no sense.. And also later in Trespasser if you have drank from the well you can speak to Fen'harel's guardian spirits.. Even tho nq says it was part of a ritual...
How would Mythal's priests know about Corypheus and not know about Fen'harel? Oo
#17
Posté 25 décembre 2015 - 02:25
Abelas may know who Solas is because he probably knew the Dread wolf and how the other Evanuris look like, he is a pre-veil being.Well, the Well didn't react to one of the elves of old in any form, but Abelas didn't miss Solas' special "condition".
I guess the elves born before the Veil was created still possess the ability to see all things related to the Fade and the Beyond in the real world. Kieran and Morrigan also possess it, as Kieran remarks on the thing in the Inquisitor's hand to his mother.
It is not Kieran who detect the nature of the anchor it is Urthemiel,Morrigan also is a post-veil person she isn't capable to detect the nature of the anchor.
#18
Posté 26 décembre 2015 - 05:00
I don't think the well is something that 'detects'. It's much like an interactive object that has a benefit and a restraint. You drink and gain wisdom, but you are then bound to the will of a 'God'. Regaurdless of any type of 'detection' Mythal and Fen'Harel seem to be on good terms. Fen'Harel was never a being of evil like how the centuries have twisted the stories and make him out to be.





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