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So...who is doing all the writing? he who must not be named? xD

 

He never should have gotten the job in the first place, and he who should not be named, probably hired the guy. If it was not Drew Karpyshyn (and I would have pulled up to Drew's house with a truck of money to get him back for this game), this game should have been handed off to Dombrow with Weekes as a senior writer. Dombrow is a very good sci fi writer and Weekes would be a good balance with emotional stuff (not that Dombrow was a slouch at that with David Archer).

 

Dombrow and Weekes were the strongest writers in ME 3 by FAR and understood what the audience wanted.

 

It appears Chris is gone, but no lead writer has been named and John is now a Senior Writer. John is literally the only reason I have a REMOTE interest in the game and I still think it is going to be a disaster or straight up cancelled or completely redesigned or delayed  at this point. 

 

If it is delayed, bring on Drew, have John as a senior writer. That is what makes this all so stupid. They have a potential dream team for this game since Drew came back, they are in development hell it appears, and we have the guy who tarnished the franchise in charge of it.

 

If Mac Walters is the lead writer AND directing the game? Just bury the game now. ME 3 will be a masterpiece in comparison. I do not know WTF is going on over at Bioware and how Gaider and Walters get put in these positions over and over again after doing a poor job, but the leadership at Bioware/EA is laughable. 

 

Gaider and Walters are the two people at Bioware I would never let in charge of a game again, and Gaider is getting another one and Walters will ruin this one. Blows my mind.


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I'm excited for the game, but there's not enough information to get the hype train rolling just yet.


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No, just no... no hype train.

​Face it, the hype train was the reason so many people go so pissy over ME3. They overhyped their expectations and had them crushed.

>you expected a conventional victory

​When the crucible was first being mentioned on mars how could you not see the staples easy button that was going to be resorted to to end the war?
​>choices don't matter

​Well then tell me how the end state of ME3 is so varied that they couldn't continue the series in the MW?
​>shep died/no blue babies/other complaint about shep and status of relationship
 ​Not every hero walks away. Many cultures don't even call someone a hero unless they died in the process. 
​>I don't like the choices I have for an ending

at least you have a choice.

>ending sucked

Well according to others on here the leaked script had a different and better ending. The alleged story is that after the leak BW rewrote the ending. Fault goes to those who leaked and the hype pushing people to what is called pirating the leaked script.

​The lashback over ME3 was due to overhyped expectations and if you guys do that again then you are not learning from history and are doomed to repeat it.



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Not a single Etika hype train picture yet? I'm disappointed guys.


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I'll consider going choo choo, coming October...



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My hype is greatly diminished due to who is involved in the game, recent Bioware behavior, and and how they attack criticism of their games. Bioware is not the same company post Mass Effect 2 and sadly I do not think they ever will be again. The fact we have people high up at Bioware conversing with criminals like Sam Maggs on a daily basis on twitter? Does not inspire me with a lot of hope.

 

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http://www.tomshardw...itic,12397.html

I'm glad there's still a few people on these forums whom remain skeptical of EAware and Andromeda.   



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Someone who promotes Mass Effect, DA:I and ONLY the most recent Bioware games all day every day on her twitter and in any "game journalist" article she writes, calls anyone who thought the character of Rey in the new Star Wars movie was a little too powerful or got out of trouble too easily compared to Luke a "woman hater" and a bigot and did the same defending DA:I.

 

She is required by law to list any gifts or monetary compensation she receives from EA/Bioware (and Disney) while doing this. She has regular conversations with people at Bioware.

 

Oh and from her own comments she really wants Andromeda to be a farmville with dating elements and not "Mass Effect" and this is who Bioware communicates with on Twitter.... 

 

You can report Sam Maggs to the FTC here. Every single item she has ever received from Bioware has to be disclosed since she writes articles promoting them and uses her Twitter to defend and advertise for them. She should be heavily fined and be in jail, while she calls people bigots.

 

https://www.ftc.gov/...r-complaint-ftc

 

The FTC has recently started a huge crackdown on criminals like Sam Maggs whom do not disclose gifts/money to promote things and astroturfing.

 

um...

 

You got proof that she is getting gifts then, or is that speculation and some conspiracy BS that is fueled by rumors?

 

I write about BioWare all the time, among other topics, and I don't receive any checks or gifts from them in my limited interactions either. Not to mention you are presuming a few things in your posts...like the value of metacritic in general or that the game is going to change because of one woman blogger. Seems kind of silly and tin-foil hat to me.

 

Or is this one of those GamerGate things where they assume the worst because corruption is seemingly everywhere?


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right now it's more of a hype tricycle


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Or is this one of those GamerGate things where they assume the worst because corruption is seemingly everywhere?

 

Don't know about all the other things, and I never bothered to stay up to date on virtual internet wars, but I can tell you that corruption in the press is rather diverse. Especially so when it comes to gaming media.

 

Consumers of gaming products are treated by some major elements of "gaming-media" and the game industry with polite disdain at best,

and outright contempt at worst, this lack of respect does not encourage adherence to acceptable ethics.

 

The games themselves are not considered to be "serious business" by a large part of said elements, which makes the problem even worse.

Rather they are used as a simple leverage to generate clickbait articles by creating fake controversies, etc.

 

They say that there is no such a thing as bad publicity, as long as people are talking about you - you are in business, and in the short term

that statement might be correct for a gaming website that pushes controversy and clickbaiting, but there is always a price to pay in the long-term.


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Assumptions I'm going to make.

I can shoot people in the face with a shotgun.
I can throw people across the room with biotics.
I can lift people into a helpless state and gun them down as they float away.
I can light people on fire.
I can freeze people solid.

I'm hyped. Story be damned.

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Don't know about all the other things, and I never bothered to stay up to date on virtual internet wars, but I can tell you that corruption in the press is rather diverse. Especially so when it comes to gaming media.

 

Consumers of gaming products are treated by some major elements of "gaming-media" and the game industry with polite disdain at best,

and outright contempt at worst, this lack of respect does not encourage adherence to acceptable ethics.

 

The games themselves are not considered to be "serious business" by a large part of said elements, which makes the problem even worse.

Rather they are used as a simple leverage to generate clickbait articles by creating fake controversies, etc.

 

They say that there is no such a thing as bad publicity, as long as people are talking about you - you are in business, and in the short term

that statement might be correct for a gaming website that pushes controversy and clickbaiting, but there is always a price to pay in the long-term.

 

And yet, those very companies are the champions of making games a legitimate medium at the same time, and work their asses off for those masses who only care about the clickbait articles, and tons of journalists, even ones I don't like like, work their asses off with the only information they have. 

 

It's a weird dichotomy for sure. I have been writing articles and editorials for 4 years now semi-professionally, and I have a ton of disdain for a LOT of people who read and comment because of their own arrogance, ignorance, or misinformation they present as fact in the end. Ive been called a fascist, and feminist for example  for things I have written sometimes for the same article, not to mention random death threats, so I don't blame journalists for having disdain honestly if what some of them face is that times ten. 

 

At the same time, it's not my job to punish them, it's my job to inform them. If the journalists can't do that job, then yeah they need to go. Problem is, everyone assumes everyone is corrupt or in bed together; it's kind of silly. Case en-point, we got emails from a guy who is trying to link Nintendo of America, Polygon and 8-4 Studios, a localization team for censorship in Xenoblade Chronicles X, because 8-4 Studios lists Polygon as an affiliate that they have worked with.

 

Their evidence; a bunch of tweets and the fact that Polygon gave Xenoblade Chronicles X a good review, a 7 out of 10.

 

This is a fan telling us we need to investigate this to be honest journalists by the way. 

 

Look, honest journalism is easy, just check your opinions at the door outside of editorials and try to avoid trash articles and do some research. Problem is no one is reading that because they don't care most of the time. So it's a real catch-22.


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1. And yet, those very companies are the champions of making games a legitimate medium at the same time, and work their asses off for those masses who only care about the clickbait articles, and tons of journalists, even ones I don't like like, work their asses off with the only information they have. 

 

2. I have been writing articles and editorials for 4 years now semi-professionally, and I have a ton of disdain for a LOT of people who read and comment because of their own arrogance, ignorance, or misinformation they present as fact in the end.

 

3. Look, honest journalism is easy, just check your opinions at the door outside of editorials and try to avoid trash articles and do some research. Problem is no one is reading that because they don't care most of the time. So it's a real catch-22.

 

1. Ha. Champions of making games legitimate?

I don't need you to legitimize my chosen form of entertainment, I don't feel the need to apologize for it, and I care very little for fake internet outrage and social trends.

 

2. You see, that's what you fail to understand. As a person who enjoys video games, I don't care about your reasons, or your disdain.

I only care about helpful journalism and information on the subject of video games.

 

If you fail to provide me with what I am looking for, I will just find a better source, be it a website / specific journalist / youtube channel / internet forum, or a combination of multiple sources.

 

3. Of course no one cares, why should they?

 

People will only care if you know how to: A. write eloquently about what they think about a subject (i.e. popular opinion). B. If you incite controversy. C. Find a particularly exciting bit of info before everyone else. Or D. The hardest of all -  consistently provide helpful and accurate information in as an entertaining and enjoyable manner as possible.

 

If that's too much for you, and the choice in your eyes is between empty sensationalism or boring information, it might just not be the best line of work for you.

 

Think about it like karma, you project disdain and lord your enlightened opinion on the unwashed mass of mouth breathers?

You will get your disdain back a hundredfold.


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Not a single Etika hype train picture yet? I'm disappointed guys.


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He appears to be gone actually.
 
Bioware's blog entry that announced him as lead writer was edited a few months later to remove any mention of him.

 
Oh, well that's a shame.  Shuffling of writers is usually not the best thing in my experience (especially if it was late in the process), but sometimes personalities or personal goals for the story simply are incompatible.

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No, just no... no hype train.

​Face it, the hype train was the reason so many people go so pissy over ME3. They overhyped their expectations and had them crushed.

This is called the human experience lol.


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1. Ha. Champions of making games legitimate?

I don't need you to legitimize my chosen form of entertainment, I don't feel the need to apologize for it, and I care very little for fake internet outrage and social trends.

 

2. You see, that's what you fail to understand. As a person who enjoys video games, I don't care about your reasons, or your disdain.

I only care about helpful journalism and information on the subject of video games, you can shove the rest.

If you fail to provide me with what I am looking for, I will just find a better source, be it a website / specific journalist / youtube channel / internet forum, or a combination of multiple sources.

 

3. Of course no one cares, why should they?

 

People will only care if you know how to: A. write eloquently about what they think about a subject (i.e. popular opinion). B. If you incite controversy. C. Find a particularly exciting bit of info before everyone else. Or D. The hardest of all -  consistently provide helpful and accurate information in as an entertaining and enjoyable manner as possible.

 

If that's too much for you, and the choice in your eyes is between empty sensationalism or boring information, it might just not be the best line of work for you.

 

Think about it like karma, you project disdain and lord your enlightened opinion on the unwashed mass of mouth breathers?

You will get your disdain back a hundredfold.

 

Then you really shouldn't be surprised when the journalists call people out for being a dick then? What goes around does come around by that logic, first off.

 

In my experience what you ask for is not even the truth of the matter; what the majority of people want is not just entertainment or facts in some form; they want to be vindicated for being right- hence the polarized news cycle to begin with in all forms of media; the pundits en-masse by the likes of Sterling, Kuchera, Kain, and youtube entertainers like Vargas and Bain.

 

Journalism is not a service in that way- my goal when I write or editorialize is to inform and educate, sometimes simultaneously, so you can make decisions on things you see and read- a public service for truth and ideals. If you don't like what you see and read, there is little I can do about that of course, but what people define as helpful or informative is too subjective in it's own right in the end to be of any use; facts are facts, stubborn and infallible like that- popular opinion is meaningless to good journalism in that way as it only gets in the way of the facts, especially if it's contrary to the truth.

 

Editorials and critic pieces like reviews are a different beast all together, and some of what you say is all true on that aspect of journalism. Bare news, however, I would argue you are off-base. 

 

And I also wasn't talking about journalists being the only ones legitimizing it, I mean companies too like EA and Activision working their asses off to make the hobby fun. The rebellious "we don't need approval" attitude is all well and good, just don't be shocked when say congress blames you for the next mass shooting, along with ten other things perceived as the "problem" because of how outsiders look at it. All sides, consumers, developers, publishers, and journalists, should be on the same page for that, but they aren't because of distrust, cynicism or just plain rebelliousness. 

 

Like it or not, their opinion is kind of important in the end to the mediums growth. Long-term acceptance and all of that, something the likes of comic books finally achieved in the past 20 years after 50 or so under the comic code authority and having psychiatrists saying batman turns people gay.

 

 I think we can do better in the long run through that.


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um...

 

You got proof that she is getting gifts then, or is that speculation and some conspiracy BS that is fueled by rumors?

 

I write about BioWare all the time, among other topics, and I don't receive any checks or gifts from them in my limited interactions either. Not to mention you are presuming a few things in your posts...like the value of metacritic in general or that the game is going to change because of one woman blogger. Seems kind of silly and tin-foil hat to me.

 

Or is this one of those GamerGate things where they assume the worst because corruption is seemingly everywhere?

 

If Bioware is giving out gifts to random internet people to sing their praises, I would like someone from Bioware to contact me.

 

Willing to shill for shiny things!

 

:D


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Assumptions I'm going to make.

I can shoot people in the face with a shotgun.
I can throw people across the room with biotics.
I can lift people into a helpless state and gun them down as they float away.
I can light people on fire.
I can freeze people solid.

I can stand around and look at space landscapes.

 

I'm hyped. Story be damned.

 

Fixed that for ya. You missed one. 



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If Bioware is giving out gifts to random internet people to sing their praises, I would like someone from Bioware to contact me.

 

Willing to shill for shiny things!

 

:D

 

To be fair who isent?

 

But thankfully that is still never happening.



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Fixed that for ya. You missed one.


Thanks. It's weird how I forgot the one on the top of my list like that.
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If Bioware is giving out gifts to random internet people to sing their praises, I would like someone from Bioware to contact me.

 

Willing to shill for shiny things!

 

:D

 

It's easy. Just start being a bigot and hating white people, especially men like their employees. Call anyone that does not like their game a bigot. Grats. You should have Bioware employees hanging out with you on twitter in no time. Watching Bioware atm is like watching a train wreck. They created their own hell though. 

 



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It's easy. Just start being a bigot and hating white people, especially men like their employees. Call anyone that does not like their game a bigot. Grats. You should have Bioware employees hanging out with you on twitter in no time. Watching Bioware atm is like watching a train wreck. They created their own hell though. 

 

Hey! i could do that!

Bioware!: show me the money!



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Are you referring to my avatar picture. Literally nothing there is confirmed in the film and is all speculation. No one for sure knows who Rey's parents are or who Snoke is and many of us speculated most of this before ever seeing the movie and just the trailer and you even had people thinking Jar Jar was Plagueis (never agreed with that one). A spoiler would be about who lives and dies in the film and people DID ruin that. I had that spoiled for me on a tech forum, that had nothing to do with sci-fi games or movies and I saw the film on launch night. That did not ruin the film for me. Still loved it, and the "spoiler" you could see coming from a mile away anyways.


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Are you referring to my avatar picture. Literally nothing there is confirmed in the film and is all speculation. No one for sure knows who Rey's parents are or who Snoke is. A spoiler would be about who lives and dies in the film and people DID ruin that. I had that spoiled for me on a tech forum, that had nothing to do with sci-fi games or movies and I saw the film on launch night. That did not ruin the film for me. Still loved it, and the "spoiler" you could see coming from a mile away anyways.

yeah, it's a stupid joke. I don't know much about you so i wasn't sure whether you'll do something like that. Overall you seem like a cool dude. It's obvious Jar Jar binks is going to be revan!  

Thanks for not taking my stupid joke too seriously



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yeah, it's a stupid joke. I don't know much about you so i wasn't sure whether you'll do something like that. Overall you seem like a cool dude. It's obvious Jar Jar binks is going to be revan!  

Thanks for not taking my stupid joke too seriously

 

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Darth and Kylo 4 eva!!!


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