Mythal vs Solas? That would be epic.
Maybe she cares for the current elves?
But it's more likely that Solas did absorb her spirit
I think there's a meme somwehere that compares what three powerful elves say to our Dalish PC. I'm not sure,but I believe they were Solas, Abelas and Mythal. From the three, Mythal was the only one that didn't criticise our Dalish and expressed pride at how far he/she had come.
PS: She's the Great Mother, after all, protective and fierce... 
I think there's a meme somwehere that compares what three powerful elves say to our Dalish PC. I'm not sure,but I believe they were Solas, Abelas and Mythal. From the three, Mythal was the only one that didn't criticise our Dalish and expressed pride at how far he/she had come.
PS: She's the Great Mother, after all, protective and fierce...
I keep thinking of what she says to Merrill in DA2. "Do you know who I am?" "Only a little." "Then stand. The People bend the knee too quickly." All in an affectionate, almost motherly tone, which fits. She is on fire for revenge, but will she let the modern elves burn? Hmm...
Thank you!
This is so great I haven't heard this one weeeeeeeeee.
You're welcome.
But would having the quiz as the protagonist for the next game be bad from a business perspective? Since that would kind of limit the potential to attract new people to the franchise?
Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 continued with Shepard as the protagonist, and they sold better than Mass Effect 1.
As for Mythal, I doubt we've seen the last of her. We see her sending a spirit ball into an Eluvian before Solas approaches her, and we know she can fragment herself to stay alive.
As for Mythal, I doubt we've seen the last of her. We see her sending a spirit ball into an Eluvian before Solas approaches her, and we know she can fragment herself to stay alive.
Unfortunately for Morrigan, I think she's getting a +1.
Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 continued with Shepard as the protagonist, and they sold better than Mass Effect 1.
Well then, fingers crossed for those who wish that! I don't know if I want my inky as the new PC, but I definitely want to see a lot of her, preferably alongside Cullen and their pretty babies hehe
I think there's a meme somwehere that compares what three powerful elves say to our Dalish PC. I'm not sure,but I believe they were Solas, Abelas and Mythal. From the three, Mythal was the only one that didn't criticise our Dalish and expressed pride at how far he/she had come.
PS: She's the Great Mother, after all, protective and fierce...
That is true. I remember both Abelas and Solas act along the lines of "You are not my people." Abelas in particular was quite hurtful. After all that time, a Dalish actually meets a genuine elfy elfTM and he acts like they're dirt. Whereas Mythal has something nice to say. Lavellan must be like 
at that point.
I've seen many people saying the quiz will probably make a cameo of sorts in the next game but I haven't seen anyone considering the very likely possibility they will be dead by that time. I mean, they only got a few years left according to Solas right?
Solas is referring to the chaos of lowering the Veil. If the Quizzy is dead, most are dead.
Okay, it has nothing to do with Bull being Qunari or Tal-Vashoth. Sorry. The response is for a negative approval Inquisitor to the question of why he would disrupt Dragon's Breath if he's going to destroy the world regardless. He states it was because there's no benefit in allowing harm to come to innocents before it is necessary, and the Qunari offended him. So that right there shows he did it mainly because the Qunari offended him. He didn't care about the innocent people, he just saw no benefit in their suffering.
If Solas sees even a slight benefit in the ex-Inquisitor he hates dying, then he will kill him or her. That slight benefit could be in the fact that he or she poses even a slight risk, or it could be that he or she also offended Solas, such as by punching him in the face for example.
I know what he says I've seen that scene. If you watch it, you'll see that "they offended me" is an afterthought he adds on the end. It was because they kill innocents he got rid of them.
I agree Solas would kill the Inquisitor if it benefitted him, but killing someone just because he dislikes them doesn't benefit him.
From what I understood of the ending of Trespasser, the Inquisition will play a significant role in finding, figuring out and fighting Solas, so I expect them to show up in the following game. Including the Inquisitor. And I know losing an arm wouldn't stop mine. That merely pissed her off.
Dam* Straight!, Solas is gonna be a high soprano when she finds him and gets thru with him!
It's in this interview with David Gaider.
Were there any things, again, because you mentioned before that your original story plan for Inquisition was twice as long as what players ended up with...
The length of the plot arc. It wasn't like we had twice as much content. The amount of ground we were going to cover with the story was twice as long. And the rest of that plot arc still exists. So, it's now in Patrick Weeks hands. Good luck, buddy! Good luck going the rest of the distance! And we'll see how he does that.
Thank you for that. Now the sudden lacklustre ending makes sense if it was a half way point in a larger story. I couldn't understand how the main quests were big and dramatic shows, super long and engaging, and then the last two (Temple of Mythal and Cory) were like little puffs of smoke in comparison. I thought 'well, then Trespasser is the true end and this is all a to be continued', but if it was half the story then.....I'm better with that. Okay. It sits better for me somehow.
My Blackwall romance is getting killed In the next game.
My Cullen Romance isn't.
My Cassandra romance isn't.
My Solas Romance may die.
My Sera Romance isn't.
My Dorian Romance Isn't
My Iron Bull romance is
Poor Bull, but....but...you're his Kadan. How could you *dramatic look* 
Don't worry Bull, my dwarf will still be there to love you (and hang from a chandelier) whenever you need her.
I know what he says I've seen that scene. If you watch it, you'll see that "they offended me" is an afterthought he adds on the end. It was because they kill innocents he got rid of them.
I agree Solas would kill the Inquisitor if it benefitted him, but killing someone just because he dislikes them doesn't benefit him.
It isn't an afterthought. It's the answer. Saying there is no benefit in innocents dying before their time is not a reason to save them. It isn't like he said he didn't want innocents to die before their time. He doesn't care about their lives one way or the other. He was just saying there's no reason not to save them if the opportunity arises.
Killing someone who offended them is something he would do though. He stated as much.
It isn't an afterthought. It's the answer. Saying there is no benefit in innocents dying before their time is not a reason to save them. It isn't like he said he didn't want innocents to die before their time. He doesn't care about their lives one way or the other. He was just saying there's no reason not to save them if the opportunity arises.
Killing someone who offended them is something he would do though. He stated as much.
You directly ask him why he saved them if they will die anyway. His first reply is to tell you just because they have to die doesn't mean he wants them to suffer first. Aka he saved them so they wouldn't suffer. He prefixes his "they offended me" with "also". The term "also" means something came before. Its an extra point added onto the "valid" reasons he had to kill them. You are taking the line out of context. Not to mention, you only get that line if Solas actively hates you and you didn't convince him people were real.
Solas does not kill people because he doesn't like them. He'll certainly kill people for some really bad reasons (aka "let's murder millions of innocent people to tear down the Veil"), but not because he dislikes them. Murdering people for your own benefit is the type of thing that loses you influence with him.
You directly ask him why he saved them if they will die anyway. His first reply is to tell you just because they have to die doesn't mean he wants them to suffer first. Aka he saved them so they wouldn't suffer. He prefixes his "they offended me" with "also". The term "also" means something came before. Its an extra point added onto the "valid" reasons he had to kill them. You are taking the line out of context. Not to mention, you only get that line if Solas actively hates you and you didn't convince him people were real.
Solas does not kill people because he doesn't like them. He'll certainly kill people for some really bad reasons (aka "let's murder millions of innocent people to tear down the Veil"), but not because he dislikes them. Murdering people for your own benefit is the type of thing that loses you influence with him.
To me it sounded like he was saying their inevitable death is no reason not to save them. Like he was arguing your logic. But whatever the case, even if preventing suffering was a reason, it wasn't the only reason. The Qunari offending him was a reason as well, and this is relevant to the ex-Inquisitor who also offends Solas.
I know this is only for a Solas who doesn't see people as people. That's my point. Firstly, this goes against your theory that he didn't want innocents to suffer. If they aren't people to him, then he doesn't care. Second, my only point here is that a Solas who negatively approves of the Inquisitor only spares him because his death would cause more unnecessary chaos. So if that were no longer the case, then Solas would have no reason to not kill the ex-Inquisitor, and probably would based on the prior offense.
To me it sounded like he was saying their inevitable death is no reason not to save them. Like he was arguing your logic. But whatever the case, even if preventing suffering was a reason, it wasn't the only reason. The Qunari offending him was a reason as well, and this is relevant to the ex-Inquisitor who also offends Solas.
I know this is only for a Solas who doesn't see people as people. That's my point. Firstly, this goes against your theory that he didn't want innocents to suffer. If they aren't people to him, then he doesn't care. Second, my only point here is that a Solas who negatively approves of the Inquisitor only spares him because his death would cause more unnecessary chaos. So if that were no longer the case, then Solas would have no reason to not kill the ex-Inquisitor, and probably would based on the prior offense.
Solas specifically says he doesn't want them to suffer before their death. In that part of the conversation he's trying to convince both you and himself that he's not a monster for what he's about to do. Just because they aren't "people" doesn't mean he wants them to suffer. Most people don't consider animals to be people, but still don't want them to be needlessly tortured.
Once again, Solas will kill the Inquisitor if they get in his way, or if he believes they ever will have to capacity to get in his way, but he won't go out of his way to do it just because of a dislike. That goes against his characterisation for the entire game.
Solas specifically says he doesn't want them to suffer before their death. In that part of the conversation he's trying to convince both you and himself that he's not a monster for what he's about to do. Just because they aren't "people" doesn't mean he wants them to suffer. Most people don't consider animals to be people, but still don't want them to be needlessly tortured.
Once again, Solas will kill the Inquisitor if they get in his way, or if he believes they ever will have to capacity to get in his way, but he won't go out of his way to do it just because of a dislike. That goes against his characterisation for the entire game.
He's not trying to justify he's not a monster. He points out he's not a sadist. Based on what he says to Cole, Solas has no illusion about what he's going to do and what it means morally.
He's not trying to justify he's not a monster. He points out he's not a sadist. Based on what he says to Cole, Solas has no illusion about what he's going to do and what it means morally.
... He quite literally says the line "I am not a monster".
... He quite literally says the line "I am not a monster".
I wasn't very clear. Your posts reads as if you interpret Solas as trying to attenuate the moral gravity of what he plans to do, but I think think that's true. Rather, he just wants to show that he doesn't get off on suffering.
I wasn't very clear. Your posts reads as if you interpret Solas as trying to attenuate the moral gravity of what he plans to do, but I think think that's true. Rather, he just wants to show that he doesn't get off on suffering.
What I meant is - Solas is fully aware that what he is about to do is utterly horrific, but he wants to believe that he isn't a monster for doing it. He doesn't want you think he finds it enjoyable, or that he likes anybody suffering, or that he wants to do it, he just has to.
I don't think he's even convinced himself that he's not a monster for it, but he wants to...
Solas is referring to the chaos of lowering the Veil. If the Quizzy is dead, most are dead.
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One thing I can't stop thinking about: Solas can petrify people with the power of his mind. Without even looking at them.
So...how exactly is our Inquisitor going to stop him?
Thoughts?
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One thing I can't stop thinking about: Solas can petrify people with the power of his mind. Without even looking at them.
So...how exactly is our Inquisitor going to stop him?
Thoughts?
Mythal? Morrigan? Mythorrigan?
And the name keeps growing!
But, but...Solas absorbed her essence. Shouldn't it be Solythal? Mytholas? Somythalas?
OMG. 
Just realised something. Whoever drank from the Well - Inky or Mythorrigan - is now bound to the will of Solas, right? Or is Mythal, like, dead now? And he absorbed her powers before she died?
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