Wow, if that really is the reason that just sucks. Especially since FemShep doesn't exactly have a lot of straight options anyway.
I know right, if not for Garrus.....thank the Maker for that blue turian. ME2 would suck without him.
At least you get Vega and perhaps Kaidan in ME3. 
Wow, if that really is the reason that just sucks. Especially since FemShep doesn't exactly have a lot of straight options anyway.
Don't take my word for it, though. It's something I've read here on the forums and I don't have any source to back it up. I still like this idea better than "We simply thought that Jacob is that kind of guy," or "We wanted to hurt Shepard because feels." Well, I mean, since it's already in the game, Jacob obviously is that kind of guy, but I guess I like to think that, from the outside perspective, it wasn't meant to be offensive, just pragmatic.
It's also true this sort of stuff happens in real life. But it's interesting how this sort of crap only happens to femShep. ManShep's sweethearts are never permanently taken away and every single one of them can be saved. In the end, femShep can eventually only have a happy relationship with... Kaidan or Garrus...? (If gay or kinda gay, then with Liara or Samantha. There's Kelly and Samara somewhere in there but they get so little content I tend to forget those are even options.) I don't care about the love interest's gender myself and I tend to play my characters accordingly, but I'm still glad I tend to pick those that turn into big puppies that love you forever. I like my fluff.
Don't take my word for it, though. It's something I've read here on the forums and I don't have any source to back it up. I still like this idea better than "We simply thought that Jacob is that kind of guy," or "We wanted to hurt Shepard because feels." Well, I mean, since it's already in the game, Jacob obviously is that kind of guy, but I guess I like to think that, from the outside perspective, it wasn't meant to be offensive, just pragmatic.
It's also true this sort of stuff happens in real life. But it's interesting how this sort of crap only happens to femShep. ManShep's sweethearts are never permanently taken away and every single one of them can be saved. In the end, femShep can eventually only have a happy relationship with... Kaidan or Garrus...? (If gay or kinda gay, then with Liara or Samantha. There's Kelly and Samara somewhere in there but they get so little content I tend to forget those are even options.) I don't care about the love interest's gender myself and I tend to play my characters accordingly, but I'm still glad I tend to pick those that turn into big puppies that love you forever. I like my fluff.
Damn I never thought of it that way, FemShep has a much worse time of it. You can get jiggy with Vega, would he stick with you at the end? Maybe not as he's DLC only.
Damn I never thought of it that way, FemShep has a much worse time of it. You can get jiggy with Vega, would he stick with you at the end? Maybe not as he's DLC only.
He's not really a love interest. I hear he was supposed to be, in a way, but they didn't go through with it or something. Fraggle would know more about that. 
But you can get him in bed in the Citadel DLC... in a somewhat awkward fashion. Given that only happens in the DLC, they probably couldn't really make them all lovey-dovey anyway because they still have to act "normally" for the rest of the game. In the base game, he's basically just a big tease, though. Well, I forbade him to call Shep "Lola", but he keeps flirting anyway. As for myself, I chose Kaidan anyway. Want to try Liara with another femShep. So I'm not affected by what's going on with straight femShep's love interests. Can't unsee it, though.
Don't take my word for it, though. It's something I've read here on the forums and I don't have any source to back it up. I still like this idea better than "We simply thought that Jacob is that kind of guy," or "We wanted to hurt Shepard because feels." Well, I mean, since it's already in the game, Jacob obviously is that kind of guy, but I guess I like to think that, from the outside perspective, it wasn't meant to be offensive, just pragmatic.
It's also true this sort of stuff happens in real life. But it's interesting how this sort of crap only happens to femShep. ManShep's sweethearts are never permanently taken away and every single one of them can be saved. In the end, femShep can eventually only have a happy relationship with... Kaidan or Garrus...? (If gay or kinda gay, then with Liara or Samantha. There's Kelly and Samara somewhere in there but they get so little content I tend to forget those are even options.) I don't care about the love interest's gender myself and I tend to play my characters accordingly, but I'm still glad I tend to pick those that turn into big puppies that love you forever. I like my fluff.
Yeah, it is a better reason than the ones you said, that's true. I actually also don't oppose guys leaving you, as you say, this can happen in real life too. I just find it bad because MShep has way more options and like you say, none of that crap happens with them. Couple that with FemShep's really weird flirty/pushy writing and... eh. We already talked so often about it 
I also don't care for gender and I'm happy to try out the girls as well, but when your only straight option is Kaidan, or Garrus which is only importable from ME2, then that's a first sign they definitely should have included either Jacob, no matter how many people didn't find him interesting enough, or James. 1 straight interest already leaves you with Thane. That should've been enough imo because it was also a logical ending due to his illness.
But oh well, can't have everything 
Damn I never thought of it that way, FemShep has a much worse time of it. You can get jiggy with Vega, would he stick with you at the end? Maybe not as he's DLC only.
Vega's romance content in Citadel DLC is cringeworthy No, really, it's just unfortunate FemShep writing, she's too pushy and makes some bad comments. James's writing is awesome there imo and with a little more dignity from Shepard's side this could've been really amazing, because the idea behind their one-night stand is a really great one imo, but not the way they portrayed FemShep here. I was in luck because my FemShep that went after Vega was a broken and emotionally unstable character so it fit quite well to pursue him like that, but I feel bad for people who wanted a normal James romance.
James doesn't stick with you though, it's treated as your casual one-night stand: they f*cked, f*cked up and don't talk about it anymore.
He's not really a love interest. I hear he was supposed to be, in a way, but they didn't go through with it or something. Fraggle would know more about that.
Haha, yes
According to a leak they planned a conversation with him at the FOB where Shepard says that their "relationship" was more than just serving together, and James implies he's the one that can't pursue a real relationship, but that Shepard still means a lot to him.
It seems BW decided James takes his military career too serious as to start something real with his CO. That was supposedly said by BW at a convention or something like that, but I can't really remember the source right now, I only read this in Vega's old thread.
Yeah, it is a better reason than the ones you said, that's true. I actually also don't oppose guys leaving you, as you say, this can happen in real life too. I just find it bad because MShep has way more options and like you say, none of that crap happens with them. Couple that with FemShep's really weird flirty/pushy writing and... eh. We already talked so often about it
I also don't care for gender and I'm happy to try out the girls as well, but when your only straight option is Kaidan, or Garrus which is only importable from ME2, then that's a first sign they definitely should have included either Jacob, no matter how many people didn't find him interesting enough, or James. 1 straight interest already leaves you with Thane. That should've been enough imo because it was also a logical ending due to his illness.
But oh well, can't have everything
Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with the love interest leaving or getting taken away if that's who the character is or if the story demands it. I also think that not every desirable character should be made a LI. I think the writers should take no prisoners if they feel the need to. (I agree Thane's death was pretty inevitable. No issues with that, as far as I am concerned.) I was once stabbed in the back by a character I flirted with in one of the older BW games. He turned on us and joined the enemy. At first, I was of course like, "This is bullshit!" But once the shock wore off, I've got to say, yeah, that was actually pretty awesome. I think it made a lot of sense for that character and it was an interesting twist. If you got on his good side, he even has a moment towards the end when he's honest with you about why he did what he did. I really like what they did there. In DAI, one of the love interests leaves you because he's part of something so much bigger than his relationship with the female protag. It becomes a big part of the story. Haven't romanced that guy, but that makes so much sense, as well. (Another one can leave because his past catches up to him but you are allowed get him back... if you can ever forgive him.) BUT, I think that DAI works more than hard to compensate for the losses straight female Inquisitors might experience and there was never a single moment when I felt, "Okay, but that's kind of cheap and maybe guys could be on the receiving end sometimes for a change," even though I don't know about any of the female love interests that would have a similar thing happen. (In DAI, I think it would be unfair to straight male Inquisitors, in fact, so I fully support this.) I think that's the difference between these characters and Jacob, DAI and ME3, to me. The context. The bias or lack thereof, intentional or not.
I think the reason they had Jacob do that was because he wasn't very popular as a romance option so they wanted to get rid of having to make romance content for him in ME3. I mean, that's what I've heard. If that's true, I don't know. That wouldn't make it any less unfortunate anyway.
Wow, if that really is the reason that just sucks. Especially since FemShep doesn't exactly have a lot of straight options anyway.
I think the reason they had Jacob do that was because he wasn't very popular as a romance option so they wanted to get rid of having to make romance content for him in ME3. I mean, that's what I've heard. If that's true, I don't know. That wouldn't make it any less unfortunate anyway.
Well they booted all of the ME2 companions out of the spotlight, including other LIs, so Jacob isn't special in that regard. Heck, Thane dies being a complete moron by jumping at a guy with a sword. Of course Shepard just stands and watches. Good leadership there, Commander. But they told us Thane was dying from a disease and then had him die being stupid rather than from that disease. Well, I guess the disease keeps him from recovering from the injury but whatever. Seriously, screw Kai Leng.
The problem with Jacob finding someone time. See, had it been the ME1 LI being with someone else in ME2, it would make some sense because Shepard has been dead for two years. However, there is only a few months between ME2 and ME3. Sure, a Cerberus agent would probably have a hard time contacting an Alliance Marine who is grounded, but unless Shepard is in prison the whole time, they could probably talk or meet. Anderson meets uniformed Cerberus agent on the Citadel. Additionally, Jacob says "I love you", not "hey, I think you're cool so lets see where this goes" or "lets bang, ok?" Then he falls in love with the next woman he works with.
As for the "the one black guy" thing, at least he stayed with the woman that has the baby!
Well they booted all of the ME2 companions out of the spotlight, including other LIs, so Jacob isn't special in that regard. Heck, Thane dies being a complete moron by jumping at a guy with a sword. Of course Shepard just stands and watches. Good leadership there, Commander. But they told us Thane was dying from a disease and then had him die being stupid rather than from that disease. Well, I guess the disease keeps him from recovering from the injury but whatever. Seriously, screw Kai Leng.
The problem with Jacob finding someone time. See, had it been the ME1 LI being with someone else in ME2, it would make some sense because Shepard has been dead for two years. However, there is only a few months between ME2 and ME3. Sure, a Cerberus agent would probably have a hard time contacting an Alliance Marine who is grounded, but unless Shepard is in prison the whole time, they could probably talk or meet. Anderson meets uniformed Cerberus agent on the Citadel. Additionally, Jacob says "I love you", not "hey, I think you're cool so lets see where this goes" or "lets bang, ok?" Then he falls in love with the next woman he works with.
As for the "the one black guy" thing, at least he stayed with the woman that has the baby!
Yeah, but that's my point, too. They might get kicked out of the spotlight but they don't really leave Shepard, they don't break up with him, etc. They're still out there somewhere waiting for Shep, hoping that they will get him back in one piece. I think only Jacob goes on such bad terms and out of the blue. Thane's death was absolutely expected, although I agree I didn't expect him to die in such a dumb way, either. I really hate how all reason, once again, crumbles in that scene for the sake of drama or something. I especially hate when my own character is forced into either acting stupid or not acting at all.
True. In my opinion, it would be totally acceptable if the ME1 LIs hooked up with somebody else. I mean, sure, I'd be sad, but IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. Shepard was DEAD. In his ME2 written apology to Shepard, Kaidan confesses he finally tried dating again, which apparently didn't work out (judging from ME3). Despite the fact he's my Shep's LI, I don't blame him for trying to live a normal life again after putting himself back together for who knows how long after she died. So, yeah, in that case, that would make perfect sense if that did happen. In Jacob's case, though... yeah, I see no reason for him not being able to keep it in his pants for six months after all that sweet talk and promises in ME2. Either he has no goddamn backbone whatsoever (ME2, however, led me to believe otherwise.) or it's a cheap retcon of who he was as a person. As I observed from videos, if you pick certain dialogue options in ME3, he might have the audacity to actually slip and admit he still loves Shepard. My point is, I DON'T UNDERSTAND what happened in the writing department. And I really don't like that it's femShep who gets screwed over in both cases. I understand Thane had to die eventually. I don't understand the writing decision behind Jacob.
My point is, I DON'T UNDERSTAND what happened in the writing department.
What happened is that the writers for 2 and 3 didn't understand what happened in the games before the one they were working on. Much like how Lucas clearly didn't understand what made Star Wars work when he wrote the Prequels.
As for the "the one black guy" thing, at least he stayed with the woman that has the baby!
So much so that he stays on the Citadel after you extract the scientists until the very end of the game when you talk to him by the terminal in London.
I never have this problem.
The only heavy risk is leading on Miranda and Jack at the same time.
The only heavy risk is leading on Miranda and Jack at the same time.
But the priiiiiiiiize
Hah! Kasumi in the corner was priceless
just say, she was enjoying herself.
and here I thought the Cerberus suit is a one piece and not a shirt and pants 2-piece ... wtf
I am currently doing a Jacob-mance and it is horrible. (Actually, its so bad it is funny.) Who wrote this stuff?
Also, when do you get the line about the "prize?" Is that a paragon response? Because I have been going mostly neutral and renegade.
Since I didn't see someone answer, apparently it was Lukas Kristjanson. Which surprises me.
It does get worse in ME3.
"I can feel it. Can you feel it?"
"I feel it."
"Believe it."
What? 
It does get worse in ME3.
"I can feel it. Can you feel it?"
"I feel it."
"Believe it."
What?
I love this exchange in how femShep delivers it. She's like, "Yeah, sure, dude, I feel it, whatever." That always cracks me up.
Since I didn't see someone answer, apparently it was Lukas Kristjanson. Which surprises me.
Is that for real? Didn't he write a metric f-ton or two of pretty decent stuff? That's... odd.
I love this exchange in how femShep delivers it. She's like, "Yeah, sure, dude, I feel it, whatever." That always cracks me up.
It does get worse in ME3.
"I can feel it. Can you feel it?"
"I feel it."
"Believe it."
What?
Haha. Oh I can see I really missed out by not playing femshep.
I love this exchange in how femShep delivers it. She's like, "Yeah, sure, dude, I feel it, whatever." That always cracks me up.
Is that for real? Didn't he write a metric f-ton or two of pretty decent stuff? That's... odd.
He wrote Aveline and Sera, among other things.
I love this exchange in how femShep delivers it. She's like, "Yeah, sure, dude, I feel it, whatever." That always cracks me up.
Is that for real? Didn't he write a metric f-ton or two of pretty decent stuff? That's... odd.
I'm convinced that absolutely no one cares about Jacob, to the point where no one seemed interested in doing better in his exchanges.
I'm convinced that absolutely no one cares about Jacob, to the point where no one seemed interested in doing better in his exchanges.
That's what makes this so funny.
I'm convinced that absolutely no one cares about Jacob, to the point where no one seemed interested in doing better in his exchanges.
Perhaps. You know, that's actually pretty sad. He wasn't so bad in ME2. He was one of the very few relatively normal people in the circus of a spaceship. He just needed more unromanced content. I think Garrus suffers from exactly the same thing in ME2 (Little content, bizarre attempt at romance.) but somehow he's a fan favourite. (Garrus' writing does improve in ME3, though.)
Perhaps. You know, that's actually pretty sad. He wasn't so bad in ME2. He was one of the very few relatively normal people in the circus of a spaceship. He just needed more unromanced content. I think Garrus suffers from exactly the same thing in ME2 (Little content, bizarre attempt at romance.) but somehow he's a fan favourite. (Garrus' writing does improve in ME3, though.)
Yeah but if not played for comedy, "relatively normal people in the circus" can equal boring. Garrus is a fan favorite mostly as a carryover from ME1 and because he's super close to Shepard in ME3. Even Garrus fans laugh at how little content he has in 2. That's why all the jokes about calibrations; they want to talk to Garrus be he keeps saying that!
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