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[AnimalBoy]

DA2

[Ashagar]

Hmm if  I had to choice DAI followed by DAO though in general I think with exceptions like Varric, Wrex, Solas, Doran, Cassandra and a few others I found the characters in their older games to be more generally enjoyable and fun as a group and by themselves than in either mass effect or dragon age.

[Realmzmaster]

DAI

[Alex Hawke]

Dragon Age II.

[NKnight7]

For me it would be Origins>Inquisition>2. Origins had an awesome cast of characters.

[sniper_arrow]

Are we counting all returning NPC's or just the central cast?

 

Just the central cast.

[Neuro]

Yep. The relationship between the two of them and how it evolves over the time in Kirkwall is gold.

 

Maybe I didn't travel with them often enough, the last banter I got to was "what's a slattern" etc., but does their relationship evolve further?  Was hoping it would, would love to hear about it.  

 

My core group was Isabela, Varric, Fenris/Merrill; Aveline I brought along for core story missions, but not for just running around.  

 

Cheers!

[Orian Tabris]

Just the central cast.

 

Yeah... you probably should've mentioned that in the OP. For clarity. Still doesn't make it any easier to choose between the three games, though.

[sniper_arrow]

Yeah... you probably should've mentioned that in the OP. For clarity. Still doesn't make it any easier to choose between the three games, though.

 

Thanks! I've included this in the main post.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Dragon Age Origins. It is still the best.

[Ski Mask Wei]

Dragon Age 2.  You put practically any party together and you'll hear some really cool things.   DA2's cast was so dope (minus Sebastian).  I'm still kinda salty they kicked them to curb for DA:I.  Damn near every character from DA:O gets to return but DA2's cast (minus Varric) gets bupkis. Teagan gets a cameo but Merrill doesn't?  FOH. 

[Seracen]

If we are talking of a future game, I'd like to see a smattering of all the parties.  We've yet to see Antiva or Tevinter; but likely to get Tevinter in the next game, when it ever happens.  As such, I am sure we would see Fenris and Dorian, unless they just wanted to absolve themselves of DA2 (which I actually enjoyed).  Would love to see Merril, but not as a friend of Solas.  And hearing Isabella's reactions to anything are always welcome, I imagine she would frustrate Vivienne to no end!  Honestly, that's more interesting, seeing how the various characters interacted with characters from the other games.

 

Like what Sten would make of Iron Bull, or the conversations between Varric and Oghren.  Or Shale and Cole discussing the vagaries of life, and Cole completely driving Shale mad, haha!  I imagine Wynn would be dead of old age, sadly.  Honestly, I feel like most of the Origins characters deserve their rest, as much as I'd enjoy seeing them anyway.  Hell, Zevran and Iron Bull discussing assassination methods would be priceless, and I imagine they are the only ones who could "out-spy" each other!

[Orian Tabris]

Dragon Age 2.  You put practically any party together and you'll hear some really cool things.   DA2's cast was so dope (minus Sebastian).  I'm still kinda salty they kicked them to curb for DA:I.  Damn near every character from DA:O gets to return but DA2's cast (minus Varric) gets bupkis. Teagan gets a cameo but Merrill doesn't?  FOH. 

 

Well, of course! Merrill isn't popular like Cullen or Varric. I'm thinking now that DAI was such a success, BW will be willing to bring back characters that weren't liked much, like Fenris, Anders, Tallis. They kinda had to bring Sebastian back in some capacity, because of the plot line he gets requires immediate attention - he was so angry, so sitting around on his butt for however long would be an obvious mistake.

[10K]

I voted Origins, just because of Morrigan and Leliana. I would have gone Inquisition, but Cassandra was the only one I liked. So it was 2 v 1; Origins won.

[paramitch]

I'm torn between DAO and DAI. Each cast has people I like and don't like. And of course it's REALLY hard to not let my adoration for Dorian tip the scale toward DAI, but that shouldn't really factor into the decision.

 

You know what I think makes the DAI cast stand out? Cole. The way the devs used him to tell us personal tidbits about all of our followers was just brilliant, and it's an experience we won't be able to have ever again. There were so many revealing nuggets about everyone and I think that their interactions with him really help tie them all together.

 

There is also the fact that, with the DAI banter there was more of a sense of relationships changing, or friendships forging. This is particularly evident between characters like Cole and Cassandra, where she really warms up to him as the game goes on. DAO has a bit of that, but not to the same degree. The most comparable thing in DA2 would probably be the friendship that grows between Isabela and Avaline.

 

You put all of this so well. I love our DAO folks but for me the DAI crew is just brilliant. Getting 9 truly rich and varied companions, plus three equally complex advisors, plus the other supporting characters -- DAI feels real to me in ways DAO didn't quite.

 

I especially love the way the other relationships evolve. The way Bull and Dorian get together if you're not romancing them (and go from being adversaries to loved ones). The real warmth you feel from Solas toward Bull if he goes T-V. Even the evolution of Solas and Sera is really interesting, because while Solas is at first superior and cold, he begins to try to draw her out. And while Sera acts like she hates him, he does evoke some glimmer of power and curiosity inside her (as when she describes looking into the Breach to him). Later they even prank each other (Solas scaring her in response to the lizards she put in his bedroll). 

And I love Cole and what he brings to the mix -- the way he illuminates the inner lives of everyone around him -- their pains, insecurities, fears, etc. I also love how others change toward Cole -- Bull goes from fearful to paternal, Cassandra from distrustful to loving, and even Vivienne (it's implied) takes a split second to worry for him (which Cole calls her out on, and she denies). 

 

Others never really see eye to eye. Sera fears Cole and never really changes on that (nor does Vivienne all that much, despite her one humanizing moment). Dorian wants to be friendlier with Solas, but Solas keeps him pretty reserved. And Solas and Vivienne are never anything but cold to each other. 

 

 

Not only that, but there was a good amount of variety in the cast relationships with some characters greatly enjoying each others' company and other characters genuinely hating the guts out of each other.

 

We do get that in DAI, too. But it takes a lot of running around to get all the banter and character evolution!

 

Inquisition has a nice balance here, with some I love (Solas, Dorian, Cole), some I hate (Blackwell, Vivienne, Leiliana), and a bunch in the middle!

 

I love all the Companions in DAI, although I definitely admit that Viv and Blackwall are at the lower end of my sliding scale there. I will always love Leliana even if, like, she's really really scary.

Spoiler

Watching her die for us in "In Hushed Whispers?" I'll never get over that. Sniffle.

 

At first I thought this was a DAO no brainer since I loved DAO Banter.  But... in reality, DAI won out because even though Alistair will ALWAYS hold a very special place in my heart, there are more DAI NPCs with real depth - 9 companions AND 3 advisors with some solid back story/interaction and even a few other NPCs that have more depth than other characters in DAO (Harding, Mother Giselle, Morrigan, etc). 

 

I agree. The writing of all the characters in DAI (and acting) was just wonderful. Although I do love our DAO characters too and always will.

 

Like what Sten would make of Iron Bull, or the conversations between Varric and Oghren.  Or Shale and Cole discussing the vagaries of life, and Cole completely driving Shale mad, haha!  I imagine Wynn would be dead of old age, sadly.  Honestly, I feel like most of the Origins characters deserve their rest, as much as I'd enjoy seeing them anyway.  Hell, Zevran and Iron Bull discussing assassination methods would be priceless, and I imagine they are the only ones who could "out-spy" each other!

 

I think Sten and Bull wouldn't like each other at first at all -- there's such a huge gulf there, not least if your version of Bull saves the Chargers and leaves the Qun.  But I'd be fascinated to see the two of them together. I think they'd ultimately bond over the battles, the fights, the mayhem. What I would love to see? Bull converting Sten to leave the Qun. It wouldn't happen (especially since I suspect Sten may actually be revealed to be the current Arishok), but I would love to see it happen. Sten is so trapped and hampered by the Qun but he can't see it.

 

Zev and Bull, on the other hand? Would totally be a blast. They'd be so much fun together. And Zev and Sera I think would be a lot of fun too. Zev just has so much joy to him, and I think Sera would dig that.

 

Do you know who else I think would bond? Shale and Viv. Just think about it. The superiority. The girl-power. The quiet confidence that they are better and cooler than anyone else. The love of pretty things. (Come to think of it, Bull would probably like Shale too).

 

Can we make this happen? I just want a Dragon Age DLC in which EVERYONE jokes and talks and plays Wicked Grace. I love these characters.

[wright1978]

Dragon age 2 wins it for me. Has my absolute favourites Isabela and early Varric. Of the cast i'd only say Sebastian rubs me up the wrong way but its fun to rival him still. Great ensemble full of diversity.

Dragon Age Origins comes 2nd for me. There's a bit of a mixed bag there though.

Inquisition i find the weakest by some way. Got the odd character like Solas who is a stand out but overall lacking imo. Even Varric feels diminished cut off from his gang.

[Ferretinabun]

Frankly I'm surprised to see so many fans of the DA2 ensemble. I thought they were easily the most 2D group of the bunch.

 

But between Origins and Inquisition is actually really tough. They both had their stellar characters (Morrigan, Alistair, Cassandra, Solas) and their weak links (Oghren, Sera), but as a bunch I enjoyed them both enormously. 

[kimgoold]

Tough one. DAO has better standouts, but DAI is more balanced. DAO had more "freedom of speech" during quests (I never cease to be amazed at the back-and-forth the three companions have over releasing Jowan without the Warden saying a word or the many variations of the prison break), but DAI has better cutscenes (Cassandra flipping the table on Varric was golden).

 

All in all I liked the not-so-snugly, underdog team dynamic in DAO more, it gave way more tension to disagreements even if no one was killed (which could happen). DAI was too easygoing fluffy fantasy in that sense for me, despite the supposedly Earth-shattering conflict going on. Everyone being confined to a tiny camp also added more to the homey, "we are doing this together" feel than the vast halls and many rooms of Skyhold, though this is more due to game design reasons than anything else.

 

Furthermore I think general exposition through the characters was handled way better in DAO. As many additions to the lore as DAI has, most of that was exiled into long-ass texts and random codex entries instead of making NPCs tell you the gist of them. Yes, there's Solas with the spirit babble, Mother Giselle with the Chantry babble, Cole's insights etc. but nothing particularly new or intriguing. Dorian hardly shares any Tevinter lore we didn't know already, the only one who is actually interested in Ancient Elven lore wouldn't talk about it (heck, the ones who actually did were the returning Morrigan and Flemeth), Iron Bull barely delves into Qunari customs, no Chantry person seems to care about what Cory said of the Black City's empty throne, the list goes on. I found these baffling, for it wouldn't have been much effort to remedy these.

 

DAO wins.

 

Sorry DA2, I could never connect with a single one of your lot.

I agree, and you've put it far more eloquently than I could.

[Neria Rose]

DAI just barely surpasses DAO because of Solas. 

[vertigomez]

Why do people assume that just because they don't like a character, that character is poorly written? Lol, BSN.

[SomberXIII]

There's no such thing as the best cast ensemble for me. All teams are pretty equal, although DA2 is a bit lower. Alright, DAO because of Alistair and Morrigan.

[BSpud]

Tied between DAI and DA2, but voted the former.

[Scuttlebutt101]

Voted for DAI, but now I think I prefer the DAO ensemble after all. DAI has good characters, but I never seemed to connect with them as much as my DAO crew, maybe because the whole superior-subordinate thing is much more pronounced in Inquisition. Even in the Wicked Grace scene, when everyone was all "Wow, you're so funny!!" it felt more like they were trying to appease their boss. As for DA2, I really liked Fenris, Sebastian and Carver, but the rest were kind of meh.

[GoldenGail3]

DAO. Then DAI. And then at the end of the Galaxy sits DA2.

[Marshal Moriarty]

Things like this are always a little dubious, simply because the vote will natually swing to the latest game, especially on a forum dedicated to that game! The issue isn't that I think people are incapable of being objective, nor do I dismiss the notion that people can (and do) legitimately consider DAI to have the best cast of characters. Only we as individuals know in our heart of hearts what we feel and only we know if what we write here is true to that. You just have to accept what people say and hope that most people are as honest as you would hope they would be in a perfect world.

 

My main issue is that Origins and to a lesser extent DA2 are getting on now, to the point where it is entirely possible that nowhere near as many people have actually played Origins as we think. We all tend to assume that everyone here has played all the games, and knows them all like the back of their hands. But that is extremely unlikely, given that Origins is over 5 years old, DA2 4 or so years old. Some people will not have played them, will only have played a little of them, have only read about them or watched Youtube videos etc etc. They aren't necessarily being disingenuous - they may consider such to be enough exposure to offer a verdict.

 

I would disagree with that however, but I also accept that there is no real way to know, and even then you could not impose conditions on others (i.e you only get a say if you have and can prove that you have fully played all 3 games etc). Its unworkable, unreasonable and a great many simply wouldn't accept the validity of it or need for it anyway. The reason I bring it up is because we *can* be reasonably sure that most of the newer gamers/new fans of the series here have played DAI, or have at least played more of it than they have of the other games. Because its a recent game, and it exists on the current gen etc etc.

 

So, all of that is a very roundabout way of saying that none of us should be surprised if DAI wins this by a considerable distance, because I think it has all the advantages that being such a recent game affords it, especially given the (in reletive terms) advanced age of its predecessors. 4-6 years might not seem like much, but given that a great many people are as we speak picking up their first ever consoles or PCs, and 5 minutes from now more will do the same and so on and so on... Time waits for no man or game, and as great as Origins and IMO DA2 were, they don't stand much of a chance in a poll like this, even if (as I strongly contend) their casts of characters are much better than that of DAI.