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[IntoTheDarkness]

I'm a 10 years long fan of Bioware. I've played all their games except for Shattered Steel and MDK2 since my interest is limited to RPG. I started playing DAI 2 weeks ago.

 

To me DA:I is possibly the best game Bioware has produced so far; It has well done almost everything that I consider vital in a good RPG; top notch writing, interesting plots, believable characters, and serious politics(which often have been shunned in previous Bioware games with 'politics=bulltshit' attitude as in Mass Effect 3; I always found that kind of writing rather juvenile.) I've only played the game for a week, but DAI has already knocked DAO off as my top favourite Bioware RPG. I especially loved seeing some friendly faces from previous games; this massive nostalgia must have hit home for gamers who played previous games.

 

 

However, there are some glaring issues that makes me view DAI as a game with great potential with somewhat poor user friendliness that drags down the game experience as whole. There are too many meaningless fetch quests that makes the first 10 hour of gameplay similar to MMORPG experience with no vocie-over or depth. There are so many inaccessible mountains in maps effectively dividing DAI's open world into a series of narrow corridors, and this is very frustrating when you try to collect a shard positioned 15m across the cliff and you realize that you have to backtrack a half of the map to reach that area. The speed of mounts is ridiculously slow that I suspect it was Bioware's attempt to artificially extend playtime or it was done because having faster mounts resulted in massive framedrops in consoles.

 

I think the game would have been much more enjoyable for almost every gamer if these issues didn't exist. As of now, DA:I seems like a game with the best writing among Bioware games with some MMORPG mechanics and frustratingly closed open-world maps that while I love the game it is not as immersive or as enjoyable as games like ME2 due to its boring gameplay; the game fills like a great movie intercut with long and many filler advertisements. In other words, DAI did the best in what Bioware is good at while doing worse at what Bioware is not known for compared to Bioware's previous games. I think Bioware should drop fetch quests all together and make the game as narrative focused as possible in the future.

[Ivansio]

A lot of people are complaining about the meaningless quests. A good friend whose judgment I trust warned me that I was going to hate them so much it was gonan take me out of the game, but now, 80 hours or so in, I haven't hated them yet as much as i was promised, some i even like, but I get why some people don't like'em.
 

It's a a matter of taste i guess.

[Bob Walker]

The fetch quests didn't bother me that much in DAI, as they did in other games (Kingdoms of Amalur and Xenoblade, to name a few). Nonetheless, Bioware can do better next time.

[duckley]

I don't mind the fetch quests at all... forces me to roam the areas, notice things that I wouldn't have otherwise - some neat surprizes and some beautiful scenery!

[Abyss108]

I don't know what to say about the side quests in this game... Logically, I have to say they are terrible but... I didn't even notice that whilst I was playing, even after 130 hours on my first playthrough...

 

I can't really complain about something that didn't actually bother me whilst playing...

[sjsharp2011]

I don't mind the fetch quests at all... forces me to roam the areas, notice things that I wouldn't have otherwise - some neat surprizes and some beautiful scenery!

 

 

I don't mind them either I can see why they can be off putting to some but for me like you I just enjoy the way Inquisition looks to not want to take it all in.

[Irethofnorgothren]

Well, I know its been over a year since the game has been published, but I'm half way through my first game play and I'm loving it. The story, characters, their builts and developments, their stories, the inquisitor herself, the level of details in the scenes. They are all amazing and brilliant. I just hope the end of this game won't make me feel that the only thing my decisions and work has done, is to take care of the main problem of the story and all other irritating issues would be left unresolved. I personally hope that the elven people would be free from all the racial discrimination and injustice which is being forced upon them. That really bothers me to no end  

[Kabraxal]

I had no problem with the quests... not really different from RPGs that have come before in terms of fetch v deeper.  Especially if you are a lore hound and love the little pieces that these quests add to the lore.  Inquisition is easily the best game out there in terms of lore and integrating it into the game's design on every level.  Well, DA has always been good at that.  Hopefully DA4 continues that tradition.  

[DragonAgeLegend]

The only problems I had with DAI was that we couldn't zoom in while in combat, that there were no tooltips on the power bar, and that there were no cutscenes for side quests. 

 

I guess the story could have been slightly longer as well. 

[Scofield]

Sometimes i just like to sit, get stoned, munch some munchies, tune in to what im playing an tune out of everything else, fetch quests compliment this pretty well

[JJ Likeaprayer]

Man...is this a pure slap on Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age Origins' faces or what..........I've played countless games since the 90's,and so far I've found ME3 and DAO are just incomparable in gaming...It's like saying Final Fantasy 13 is better than Final Fantasy 7(which is also incomparable)....... Graphic wise,DAI is the best so far,and I love DAI as it is,which is not the best game BioWare ever made!! It's a pure insult,can't believe what I'm seeing here! 

[GoldenGail3]

Man...is this a pure slap on Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age Origins' faces or what..........I've played countless games since the 90's,and so far I've found ME3 and DAO are just incomparable in gaming...It's like saying Final Fantasy 13 is better than Final Fantasy 7(which is also incomparable)....... Graphic wise,DAI is the best so far,and I love DAI as it is,which is not the best game BioWare ever made!! It's a pure insult,can't believe what I'm seeing here! 

Don't get me wrong; I like DAI and all. But I pefer Origins, even thought at this point I just sort of lost interest in the DA series. I mean, I like the Quiz; after all I made a Quiz I really did like (it was hard; I found it unstrumably hard to enjoy the blank slate of the Inquistor but I liked it after my second playthrough... It didn't help i hated the powers and how long the stupid filler quests lasted.... ) I like the plot though; it was fun enough I suppose.

[Elhanan]

Those mountains and other like terrain features may not be as inaccessible as some believe. Look for trails, as well as indigenous wildlife using them. This can help save a lot of time (and it also works in Skyrim).

And most quests are optional. If one does not like gathering Requisitions, then skip them. There are many ways to gather the same rewards; choose another.

[Addictress]

If there are people who honestly think DAI is better than DAO and DA2, we have a serious problem.

[Elhanan]

If there are people who honestly think DAI is better than DAO and DA2, we have a serious problem.

Difference of Opinions; learn to live with 'em....

[DustyTulip]

RE-fetch quests vs story (well, kinda...)

 

I was streaming DAI from the beginning from 12 hours straight from Extra Life, a few people were watching, so I wanted to focus on the story as much as possible. I thought that watching the story would be more fun for people than just watching me run around collecting Elfroot. I will also note that this was my 4th (I think) playthrough of DAI, and I had golden nug with all good armour/weapons etc, therefore I didn't really need to loot that much. I managed to get to Adamant before I realised that I need to go back to previously opened maps and do the fetch quests to mine for more power to open more story quests. This was about 10h in. So in my opinion, I made quite good progress into the story without having to go fetch questing or fulfilling requisitions. And although, fetch quests/requisitions can't be completely avoided, if you want to do an absolute minimum of them you still can without hindering your story progress. 

 

Although fetch quests were not my favourite part in my first play through, I quite enjoyed them on the subsequent runs. Wouldn't mind less quests more story in the future games, but can't complain too much. 

 

p.s. Love DAI, never played DAO or DA2, fite me IRL   

[Apollexander]

It is my favourite Bioware game. And I wish in the future I would say 'it was my favourite', just like I say 'DAO was my favourite'.

[Fylimar]

I just started playing DAI. So far, I liked it a lot. I'm playing as a elven rogue archer and it's just fun. I like all of my comrades so far  (even Cullen, whom I hated with passion in the first two games) - and bringing back my favorite dwarf Varric helps a lot. The fetching quests are a bit boring, but they force you to go to every part of the map and finding interesting things there. I think, my favorite companion so far (beside Varric) might be Blackwall - I really like his grumpy atttude. It seems, he is a romance choice, so I guess, I give it a try. I'm surprised, that my elven female really has so much romance choices (if the Wiki is correct, playing an elven female gives you the most choices). I can't really warm up to Solas, but he is mysterious and I like to make him mad, when I bring up my Dalish heritage - he does not like that a lot. Anotehr really great companion is Dorian: from the looks, I thought, he would be a douchbag, but he is really interesting and funny. Now I want to help him free Tevinter from the slavers and blood mages (we could recruit Fenris, he'd love that). Oh and Vivienne is really interesting - I wish, she could have met Meredith, that would have been fun.

You see, I love the game, I could go on for hours like that ...

 

I don't think, it's the best Bioware game, it's hard to pick one... I always had a soft spot for DA2, because for once, it's not an end of the world scenario, which is refreshing, and I just love sarcastic Hawke. My first Bioware game was Baldurs Gate and that game will always have a special place in my heart. Kivan is one of my all time favorite companions and the story was great.

 

 

What I would have wished for DAI - and I already know, that it is not in the game: a few words about the destinies of mages and templars, we player know and sometimes love from the other games, like Irving and Greagoir (ok, they probably died at the temple, but still, Cullen could have at least said something), Kevan, the recruit from DA2, Sol, the mage, who sold you potions in DA2 (I really liked that guy), Owain, Petra, the guy, who hid in that trunk and other people from the mage tower. I know, that Samson makes an appearance and Carver was already mentioned by Leliana (my Hawke was a mage and Carver joined the Templars in the playthrough, I picked for DAI). I'm mostly cross because of Irving and Greagoir - they played fairly major roles in the first game - even if you don't play the mage origin, and I really like those two, I would have loved to find out, what happened to them. I know, that irving was mentioned in Asunder, but nothing else. I have a hard time picturing those two trumping through the wilds and harrassing innocent people, for all their differences, they always seems to be fairly down to earth and realistic. I would have love dto see them in the inquisition camp, helping ... and I know, Cullen fans will hate me for that, but I rather would have seen Greagoir at the council than Cullen (and really, I like Cullen in DAI, I just like Greagoir more)

 

Despite it being such a long passage, it isn't really a big deal. Of course, the inquisitor does not know Irving or Greagoir, so it makes sense, not to include them in the game I guess.

[Jedi Comedian]

Even if ME:A turned out to be the greatest Bioware game ever, nothing can replace KOTOR for me.

[sjsharp2011]

Difference of Opinions; learn to live with 'em....

Agreed as i happen to be one of them. I admit the intreface in Orgins and 2 is probably better but to me that aside DAI trumps the other 2 for me. Peop;le will always have their fave games though that they like and play a lot Before i got into the Mass Effect series my fave game was probably Star Trek Bridge Commander. I still enjoy playing it from time to time and I don't think anything will replace it and although ME has replaced it as my favourite game I still enjoy playing it and always will 

[DreamSever]

The fetch quests put me off especially waiting 30 mins to herd a druffalo, most never have an impact and most dont reward me for doing them, i prefer dao fetch quests and side quests with dialogue. It beats DA2 though

[Elhanan]

The fetch quests put me off especially waiting 30 mins to herd a druffalo, most never have an impact and most dont reward me for doing them, i prefer dao fetch quests and side quests with dialogue. It beats DA2 though

While leading the Druffalo was not a memorable moment in my initial campaign, after reading tips here and then using the allied beast to attack the nearby Rift demons was quite enjoyable. Also, what one Player does not like may actually be immersive and/ or engaging to another. Since these are optional, am content.

[DreamSever]

While leading the Druffalo was not a memorable moment in my initial campaign, after reading tips here and then using the allied beast to attack the nearby Rift demons was quite enjoyable. Also, what one Player does not like may actually be immersive and/ or engaging to another. Since these are optional, am content.

Completionist side of me had to fo them, like i say most of those should reward you for effort and time alone

[Elhanan]

Completionist side of me had to fo them, like i say most of those should reward you for effort and time alone

I also do most of them, or have done so with my honorable Inq's thus far. However, I still have not ransacked a few graves, where a more power hungry Inq might do so. And there are some noble acts that such an Inq might skip. It is also up to the RP choices, or can be.

[DreamSever]

I also do most of them, or have done so with my honorable Inq's thus far. However, I still have not ransacked a few graves, where a more power hungry Inq might do so. And there are some noble acts that such an Inq might skip. It is also up to the RP choices, or can be.

I ransacked them after i got full approval, they dont care or at least i havent seen them hostile, got dalish warrior armor by entering unadel grotto, worth it. And the mosaic piece