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[Qun00]

I do like him, but objectively speaking I don't understand what motivated this choice.

Leliana, Morrigan and Alistair keep coming back because they were the hero's companions in the game that started everything. But more importantly, they were well established characters.

Back in Dragon Age: Origins, Cullen was just... some guy you meet briefly and no reason is given to care or even remember him afterwards. Then he comes back in DA2 for some reason and has a bigger role, but we still know nothing about him. Not a c-h-a-r-a-c-t-e-r quite yet.

He only became a fully fledged character in Inquisition and that's just weird. I'd also suspect that this second return was on popular demand because of all the people that wanted to romance the dreamy templar.

But I will try to be fair and mention a few other characters whose return is hard to explain because they were nearly irrelevant to the plot when they were introduced.

I'm certain that nobody expected Cassandra to be in DAI. She was just that angry woman who didn't participate in the story and was just there to ask Varric to narrate the game. Then again, I think that last cutscene where she apparently is holding the Inquisition's book foreshadowed that she would be back.

And then we have Merril. Most people didn't even know that she actually was in the Dalish Origin. Not memorable enough, I suppose.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Morrigan was brought back because she had important with Flemeth plot ongoing from get go.

 

Leliana was brought back because she is writers pet.

 

Cullen was brought back because of fanservice , despite of bioware denying it as there was no other reason to bring Cullen back.

[Qun00]

I... didn't ask about Leliana and Morrigan. Some people's unwillingness to even start reading is astounding.

[thats1evildude]

Big fanbase. He was clearly intended to be just a minor character in DAO, but there were enough people who loved Cullen that the devs were prompted to take another look at the character and decide to bring him back. (I think one of the devs, Liz Lehtonen, was also a fan.) They wouldn't have done it if there weren't the seeds of an interesting story arc there.

They could have invented some other character to fill the role of the Inquisition's general in DAI, but why? Why roll the dice with some other NPC when this character works perfectly well AND has a built-in fanbase AND has an interesting character arc to resolve?

"But I don't like Cullen!" Well, they can't please everybody. There's no magic formula to character creation that makes an NPC universally likeable. That goes for old and new characters.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I... didn't ask about Leliana and Morrigan. Some people's unwillingness to even start reading is astounding.

No you didn't , but you mentioned them and pointed as why they were back and reasons weren't correct so i brought real one.

 

You should rather complain about some people lack of idea what they are writing in own posts.

[Qun00]

No you didn't , but you mentioned them and pointed as why they were back and reason weren't correct so i brought real one.
 
You should rather complain about some people lack of idea what they are writing in own posts.

I suppose I could do that, but would you improve your posts if I did complain?

[TheKomandorShepard]

I suppose I could do that, but would you improve your posts if I did complain?

Oh , i should also add lack of understanding what other people said , because improving post have nothing to do with understanding what you have wrote before.In case you didn't get it , i was refering to your lack of understanding what you have wrote in your post and attacking me for commenting its content , what i brought up in my previous post.  

[Catilina]

„Why is Cullen in all three games?”

 

 

Why not? He is a good templar with a good story. Would better an unnamed templar for the Inqusition? I dont think so.

[Qun00]

„Why is Cullen in all three games?”
 
 
Why not? He is a good templar with a good story. Would better an unnamed templar for the Inqusition? I dont think.

He didn't get a good story until much, much later. If Cullen had been a full fledged character from the beginning, it would make more sense.

[vertigomez]

Popularity power, and his circumstances were unique enough that the devs thought his perspective would be interesting.

[duckley]

He has turned out to be a very interesting character with a very interesting story.

[Qun00]

Popularity power, and his circumstances were unique enough that the devs thought his perspective would be interesting.

Perhaps. I could see the same thought process going with the choice to bring back Samson.

This guy matters very little in DA2's main storyline, but he is a good choice if they wanted someone to represent the templars' suffering.

[ComedicSociopathy]

 

That's why. 

[Qun00]

Well, you could grind cheese on that six pack.

[Abyss108]

'Cos he's popular.

 

I don't understand why he's popular exactly (this is coming from someone who played a female mage in Origins), but it doesn't do any harm to have him back instead of inventing a new character to fulfil the same role, so I've got no complaints.

[Catilina]

Its a very-very big problem. Why Cullen, and why not an unnamed, neverseen knight. Because the ppl. want to see a familiar face (ok, the faces changed a bit, then...a familiar name). + for the fans.

 

And: why not?

[vertigomez]

Perhaps. I could see the same thought process going with the choice to bring back Samson.

This guy matters very little in DA2's main storyline, but he is a good choice if they wanted someone to represent the templars' suffering.

That's pretty much the same deal. It's why Merrill, who was an extremely minor character in DAO, is a fully fleshed out companion in DA2. Sometimes the devs think "what would happen if that person..." and they roll with it. It just helps if you have an enormous, vocal fanbase.

[Qun00]

Its a very-very big problem. Why Cullen, and why not an unnamed, neverseen knight. Because the ppl. want to see a familiar face (ok, the faces changed a bit, then...a familiar name). + for the fans.

And: why not?

To be fair, a named and barely seen knight isn't a vast improvement over that. And your question has been answered a few times in this thread, but read!phobia is a common affliction.

I will try to avoid giving away anything in the title next time, so that people will have no choice but to read and find out.

[vertigomez]

As for Cassandra, I think most people expected her to be in DAI. At least, everyone on the forums did...

[Qun00]

As for Cassandra, I think most people expected her to be in DAI. At least, everyone on the forums did...

Why did they believe so?

[SentinelMacDeath]

And then you read the fanfic people write about him on AO3 and not one bothers to mention the main theme of Cullen : his PTSD. It's all romance and sex, with emphasis on the sex. In other words, they are frustrated because they wanna f*** him.

Oh, and the stories are always with an elf protagonist. Because apparently, those people have a fixation for elves. They seem to think elves are prettier in the DA universe, even though they all look malnourished, anorexic.

 

you clearly read ALL the Cullen fanfic then ... if you look for sex and romance fanfic you will find sex and romance fanfic, it's like you didn't even try to come up with a good point to make ... 

 

As for the OP... why the hell not? He was a minor character in DA:O ... he still didn't have a big role in DAII albeit much bigger than in DA:O and it set up his whole spiel of quitting the Templars and Lyrium. He turned into a great character in DA:I. 

[vertigomez]

Why did they believe so?

Presumably because they went out of their way to give her some character growth (she mellows out considerably after trying to stab Varric in the groin, gets dreamy over Hawke, etc.) and she was associated with the Chantry (need at least a token one every game) and Leliana who was already established as a player on the stage of Thedas.

[AlanC9]

Isabela and Merrill came back, so why not Cullen?

A more interesting question is who comes back for DA4.

[vertigomez]

A more interesting question is who comes back for DA4.

As far as relatively minor characters go, I think Harding is a shoe-in. Maybe Barris.

(Based on my immense powers of prescience, of course.)

[Carmen_Willow]

Because we liked him? Because he's kind of an ordinary guy, to begin with, caught in the mess and doesn't get the chance to see the big picture the first time around? Because over the course of three games, he grows in knowledge, maturity and depth? Because he's a soldier whose seen too much? Because he's cute and has a great voice? Because when you were a mage in Origins, he had a crush on you, and you never got to take that anywhere?

 

Yeah, the fans won out on this one! We do once in awhile. (WE lost on Nathaniel, darn it. I guess enough of us didn't love him the way fans love Cully.)