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Why is Cullen in all three games?


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As far as relatively minor characters go, I think Harding is a shoe-in. Maybe Barris.

(Based on my immense powers of prescience, of course.)

Barris and Harding (Barris could have gotten away before they made him use red lyrium.) And we haven't had a Dwarven love interest since, the Dwarf noble origin in Origins. Harding's the bomb, although a male Dwarven love interest would be great too.



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Because other than Sir Barris who only appears in Inquisition he's the only interesting and likable Templar who hasn't died in previous games. Sir Otto got killed by the demon, that head Templar in Lothering likely died fighting the darkspawn horde in attempt to buy time for the refugees, that Templar investigator got killed trying to stop the serial murder who ended up killing Hawke's mother... Good Templars have tendency to die quicker than than a planet being attacked by Darth Nihilis.


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Cullen most likely won't be back in DA4 since he can be a homeless addict (or dead who knows) or run his Templar clinic. Maybe he gets a cameo appearance if the Inquisitor married him. Dorian will be back though (and how BW is going right now the IB too ...)



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To be fair, a named and barely seen knight isn't a vast improvement over that.

Then i dont see the problem: Cullen just a templar, who was in Ferelden and Kirkwall too.

 

It is, why Cullen appear in Heaven, and not ... Johnny example. Maybe the writer can writing a story from John of Doe ex-templar commander, but why, if have one, with past.

 

The question not that: why Cullen in Inquisition, the question tis: why was Cullen in Kirkwall? For fans? Maybe.

 

I see: Cullen has one, but big fault: he too handsome, and have too much fans. ;)

 

What you want hear?



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I have my doubts that we will see Cullen or any adviser or of the companions again with a few exceptions like Doran as he is a high ranking Tevinter. Tevinter is under the reborn Tevinter Chantry not the southern Orlaisian chantry and the norhern templars do not use Lyrium and serve the mages. Besides they wanted to make a clean break from the south.



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As far as relatively minor characters go, I think Harding is a shoe-in. Maybe Barris.

(Based on my immense powers of prescience, of course.)

 

I'd love Harding to be back.  Ser Barris, well I doubt it because he can die in Champions of the Just, and I think he's presumed dead if you do In Hushed Whispers.

 

Personally I want Krem.  I wanna romance FemShep *coughcough* I mean Krem so bad.  And she's freaking awesome so yeah, that'd be my choice (as long as the almighty and wonderful Jennifer Hale has a couple of English accent lessons, there are a few moments with Krem's voice acting where she seems to take a vacation to South Africa).

 

And more Varric please, I feel like his story isn't finished yet.



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Why Dagna had to be back? ;)


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Because other than Sir Barris who only appears in Inquisition he's the only interesting and likable Templar who hasn't died in previous games. Sir Otto got killed by the demon, that head Templar in Lothering likely died fighting the darkspawn horde in attempt to buy time for the refugees, that Templar investigator got killed trying to stop the serial murder who ended up killing Hawke's mother... Good Templars have tendency to die quicker than than a planet being attacked by Darth Nihilis.

The red shirts of Dragon Age!



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Why Dagna had to be back? ;)

Maybe so we wouldn't have enchantment boy again?  As much as I loved him, he was pretty limited.



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Personally I want Krem. I wanna romance FemShep *coughcough* I mean Krem so bad. And she's freaking awesome so yeah, that'd be my choice (as long as the almighty and wonderful Jennifer Hale has a couple of English accent lessons, there are a few moments with Krem's voice acting where she seems to take a vacation to South Africa).


Krem's a dude. :ph34r:

edit- unless you're referring to Hale, ofc.
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Fan service or not, I like the story arc.  Seeing him go from a minor role to that of an advisor is the sort of character development you rarely get in games.  I think it would make sense, given the respect the Templars of Kirkwall had for him, that Cassandra would recruit him for the Inquisition.

 

The world is ending, again, in what is a small section of Thedas.  Ferelden, Orlais and the Free Marches can only have a certain amount of capable, respected people with enough training and field experience to come save the world.  It makes sense that he'd be called upon to lead the troops.

 

If you get a brand new set of ppl every game it won't foster a feeling of continuity, and one of the distinct benefits of a franchise like this is the chance for long term character growth.  I for one enjoy that, with Dagna being a very good example.



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http://www.your-crit...pic-of-ser.html

 

This is a piece that I liked, about how Cullen is a sort of link between the games that serves as a representative of player memory.



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Krem's a dude. :ph34r:

edit- unless you're referring to Hale, ofc.

 

Well she's a girl technically but I know I know I know, I should say he.  But I can't help but see her as a she.  I'll try harder next time, kay?

Maybe it's cause I hear femShep and know it's Jennifer Hale?



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Then i dont see the problem: Cullen just a templar, who was in Ferelden and Kirkwall too.

It is, why Cullen appear in Heaven, and not ... Johnny example. Maybe the writer can writing a story from John of Doe ex-templar commander, but why, if have one, with past.

The question not that: why Cullen in Inquisition, the question tis: why was Cullen in Kirkwall? For fans? Maybe.

I see: Cullen has one, but big fault: he too handsome, and have too much fans. ;)

What you want hear?


The advantage in already existing is negligible. A new character like Solas or Dorian can bring as much to the table as a returning character, if not more.

Krem's a dude. :ph34r:


That is Krem's preference, but how others perceive him/her is their business alone.
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Maybe so we wouldn't have enchantment boy again?  As much as I loved him, he was pretty limited.

No, no. Just because she have a beautiful, sexy shape, and much fanboy... i think. ;)


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The advantage in already existing is negligible. A new character like Solas or Dorian can bring as much to the table as a returning character, if not more.

Its a point.



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Well she's a girl technically but I know I know I know, I should say he.  But I can't help but see her as a she.  I'll try harder next time, kay?
Maybe it's cause I hear femShep and know it's Jennifer Hale?


He's a boy who was born with the wrong bits. But thank you for trying harder in the future.

That is Krem's preference, but how others perceive him/her is their business alone.


How they refer to him is not, however.

But I'm done with this particular line of conversation.
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you clearly read ALL the Cullen fanfic then ... if you look for sex and romance fanfic you will find sex and romance fanfic, it's like you didn't even try to come up with a good point to make ... 

 

As for the OP... why the hell not? He was a minor character in DA:O ... he still didn't have a big role in DAII albeit much bigger than in DA:O and it set up his whole spiel of quitting the Templars and Lyrium. He turned into a great character in DA:I. 

 

Of course I went looking for stories with Cullen. BECAUSE HE WAS TORTURED. I found a sense of identification with the character because I have PTSD. It's something that doesn't disappear overnight. It sticks with you. You're always returning to that period in time when the abuse happened.

 

BW was always good to show broken characters. It's one of its strong points. And Cullen's fanbase seemed to be quite big. So I hoped to read some fiction that would portray how a person like that overcomes this huge problem.  Fiction always helps to deal with trauma. And the possibilities for Cullen's character were huge. 

 

Perhaps Greagoir would visit Cullen in Kinloch Hold? Perhaps Cullen would meet other templars who were also tortured? Pehaps he would start being cruel to the mages, as a form of compensation for his trauma? Or would he start taking more and more lyrium, as a form of escapism?

 

 

 

And then I tried to find ONE fanfiction that wasn't about Cullen being whored around, because that was the ONLY kind of story the fanbase were interested in reading and writing. I wanted something that spoke of his past, how he dealt with his PTSD, how it affected his work and his health. Something good, that actually had some content.

 

I found none. It's all sex, sex, sex, fetish, sex, sex.

 

That's how bestial the mentality surrounding his character is. Hence we return to the question: why is Cullen in all three games?

 

Answer: Just check the Cullen thread, AO3 and tumblr. And his VA's twitter. 



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just a quick, not refined search on AO3 comes up with 37 Cullen, Teen+, PTSD fics. 

 

The fun thing about fanfic is that everyone can write whatever the hell they want, there is no need to stick with canon ... it's fanfic. If you're not happy with what has been so graciously provided by fans you could consider adding your own content. 


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He's a boy who was born with the wrong bits. But thank you for trying harder in the future.

 

Okay, just to clarify, I have never had a problem with that in either real life or video games.  I've played DAI once, and in that playthrough when you're having a drink with the chargers my Inquisitor didn't give a damn about Krem's bits so, when the opportunity to ask came up, I didn't.  I chose the option where you talk about other stuff cause my Inquisitor simply wasn't bothered.

 

It wasn't until I was maybe.....80 hours in, that I talked to Krem about his past.  Then it came up.  Until that point Krem was 'she' in my head and honestly still is.  And technically Krem is still a she.  And if given the choice would remain so.

 

So, you know, don't assume I'm hating, or that I'm a neanderthal that doesn't understand, because seriously dude, I'm not.


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How can you manage to care enough about a character to want them in the next game, but not care enough to use the correct pronoun...  :wacko:


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How can you manage to care enough about a character to want them in the next game, but not care enough to use the correct pronoun...  :wacko:

 

I just explained that above....



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The red shirts of Dragon Age!

 

The only people with shorter life expectancies than good likable templars are reasonable authority figures, they either A. get killed or B. go mad for reason of the plot and to throw in a extra boss.


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The only people with shorter life expectancies than good likable templars are reasonable authority figures, they either A. get killed or B. go mad for reason of the plot and to throw in a extra boss.

 

Lol, there's a lot of truth in that...



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I just explained that above....

 

No, you explained why you might not have used the correct pronouns during the first 80 hours of the game. Not why you would purposely choose to keep using those pronouns once you were corrected. 

 

Krem is not "technically a she" because his gender doesn't solely rely on what parts he was born with. 

 

Just seems weird you care about character enough to want to see them again, but keep referring to them in a way they would disapprove of.