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[dawnstone]

My blocked user list is getting so long. I'm starting to hope there isn't a limit...

[ArcadiaGrey]

 

 

No, you explained why you might not have used the correct pronouns during the first 80 hours of the game. Not why you would purposely choose to keep using those pronouns once you were corrected. 

 

Krem is not "technically a she" because his gender doesn't solely rely on what parts he was born with. 

 

Just seems weird you care about character enough to want to see them again, but keep referring to them in a way they would disapprove of.

 

 

If it was a real person in real life I'd damn well make sure I used whatever pronoun they wished.  But as I was chatting light-heartedly in a forum about a video game I referred to Krem the same way I do in my head.  

 

Don't worry, it clearly won't be a mistake I make again.  

[Qun00]

He's a boy who was born with the wrong bits. But thank you for trying harder in the future.

How they refer to him is not, however.
But I'm done with this particular line of conversation.

And when I say that it is their business, that includes not being forced to act as if they did share Krem's point of view.

[Ghost Gal]

"Why is Cullen in all three games?"

 

Legions of fangirls, that's why.

[Catilina]

"Why is Cullen in all three games?"

 

Legions of fangirls, that's why.

As Dagna for fanboys... i think

[Hair Serious Business]

Why is Morrigan wearing her 'bewbs' armor?

Why does Flemeth looks like that in DA2?

Why is Miranda's butt so damn big?

Why does Tali has oversized hips?

Why is Jack almost naked?

 

FANSERVICE!

 

There is your answer for everything regarding failed logic.

[Jedi Comedian]

He's there because FANSERVICE.

[Heimdall]

in Dragon Age: Origins, Cullen was just... some guy you meet briefly and no reason is given to care or even remember him afterwards. Then he comes back in DA2 for some reason and has a bigger role, but we still know nothing about him. Not a c-h-a-r-a-c-t-e-r quite yet.

He only became a fully fledged character in Inquisition and that's just weird. I'd also suspect that this second return was on popular demand because of all the people that wanted to romance the dreamy templar.

That's pretty much the reason, he has always had a highly disproportionate fanbase to the importance of the character. I think it started because of his schoolboy crush on the female Mage warden, it garnered him a very vocal fanbase. Then he got to be the Templar to ultimately stand up to Meredith in DA2. There's really no other reason to make him a major character in Inquisition (He doesn't even make a great deal of sense as a military commander, he has no experience running a campaign, though I guess I can justify that on the grounds that Cassandra needed a candidate without national allegiances and probably wanted a devout Andrastian

I'm certain that nobody expected Cassandra to be in DAI. She was just that angry woman who didn't participate in the story and was just there to ask Varric to narrate the game. Then again, I think that last cutscene where she apparently is holding the Inquisition's book foreshadowed that she would be back.

There was and that one was always obvious. Clearly her interrogation of Varric was going to play into something bigger, so her involvement was very unsurprising.

[CuriousArtemis]

An anti-Cullen thread! This brings a tear of nostalgia to mine eye   

[CuriousArtemis]

My blocked user list is getting so long. I'm starting to hope there isn't a limit...

 

Oh don't worry, mine's three pages long!

[ModernAcademic]

An anti-Cullen thread! This brings a tear of nostalgia to mine eye   

 

Another readophobic with binary thinking.

[Xilizhra]

I still think Cullen needs to account for participating in Kirkwall's Annulment. Maybe not put him on trial, per se, but some sort of restitution would be nice.

[AedanStarfang]

And when I say that it is their business, that includes not being forced to act as if they did share Krem's point of view.

But they didn't "share it", they shoved the issue into your (the player's) face and reeled you in with the bait-topic and when asked about it you get ripped a new one by IB and Krem rather than educated, and just made to look like a lol!transphobic/sexist idiot. 

[sjsharp2011]

My gue3ss is the writers felt it was worth giving him a go in a major role. Not that I'm complaining as he has been done very well in all 3 games a wel written character. Also if yo0u chyoose to romance him he gets a chance for something to go right for a change.

[Asdrubael Vect]

I still think Cullen needs to account for participating in Kirkwall's Annulment. Maybe not put him on trial, per se, but some sort of restitution would be nice.

He should be executed by Hawke in DA2(My Warden in DAO wanted to kill him too for safety of Circle mages who he wanted to kill and do in epiloge what was retconed as rumors) with his Meredith if we are not sided with templars not be putted as somekind Kirkwal savior and especially OUR Inquisition general what is a joke considiring how he was a failue as a officer and a soldier before...only Cassandra was put him to be a templar knight commander and our general

 

it is even worst that he is not just forced to us but even Hawke content of being enemy with him(this must be to Varrick too as he was fight with him too while siding with mages) was cutted from keep and we not listen about that he was a kirkwall butcher by anyone especially cirlce mages

 

i think he should be a templar-red templar commander if we allied with mages in Inquisition as his kirkwal templars were close with red lyrium and there is a plenty ex-kirkwall templar officers who turn to red ones, so Bariss and Samson was kinda a cheap replacement for Cullen role

 

I was hoped for at least Skyhold Judgement over Cullen after we would have Hawke and judgement over Hawke actions too

[Dieb]

He wasn't my favourite character in any of the games, and I have always been puzzled why he'd gotten the immense fandom that he did.

 

However his presence doesn't hurt me, and he finally matured into a perfectly reasonable, capable guy at the time of DAI. People always are quick to jump to back their complaints up with tempting yet effectively false dichotomies, such as "resource allocation" or generally "their favourite thing over my favourite thing"; which of course is not predominantly how the process works.

 

Furthermore, really, if it makes so many people happy, I shall be damned to oppose it just because. While a decent dash of it is quite necessary, this is not a field study in dramatic maturity; but intended to entertain everybody as well as possible.

[Panda]

Bioware has brought back quite lot of characters for their games, some major, some minor. Isabela and Merrill both have minor roles in Origins and are companions in DA2. Isabela even comes back for DAI's multiplayer as playable character.

 

What comes to Cullen in DAI, well Bioware needed someone as Commander and why shouldn't they pick already existing character that is well-liked? Seeing how Cullen was even more liked in DAI and how popular his romance was (ao3's Dragon Age tag for example has most fanfics about him and female Inquisitor) it was quite good choice from Bioware.

[Panda]

And then I tried to find ONE fanfiction that wasn't about Cullen being whored around, because that was the ONLY kind of story the fanbase were interested in reading and writing. I wanted something that spoke of his past, how he dealt with his PTSD, how it affected his work and his health. Something good, that actually had some content.

 

I found none. It's all sex, sex, sex, fetish, sex, sex.

 

That's how bestial the mentality surrounding his character is. Hence we return to the question: why is Cullen in all three games?

 

Answer: Just check the Cullen thread, AO3 and tumblr. And his VA's twitter. 

 

That's what majority fanfics are about no matter what the game/comic/anime/show etc. is about so I think it's kinda unfair to single Cullen fics out being oddity. I mean they kinda are oddity in terms that they are popular m/f pairing when majority of fanfics are m/m pairings, but the romantic or sexual content- that's what fanfics usually are about.

[ModernAcademic]

He should be executed by Hawke in DA2(My Warden in DAO wanted to kill him too for safety of Circle mages who he wanted to kill and do in epiloge what was retconed as rumors) with his Meredith if we are not sided with templars not be putted as somekind Kirkwal savior and especially OUR Inquisition general what is a joke considiring how he was a failue as a officer and a soldier before...only Cassandra was put him to be a templar knight commander and our general

 

it is even worst that he is not just forced to us but even Hawke content of being enemy with him(this must be to Varrick too as he was fight with him too while siding with mages) was cutted from keep and we not listen about that he was a kirkwall butcher by anyone especially cirlce mages

 

i think he should be a templar-red templar commander if we allied with mages in Inquisition as his kirkwal templars were close with red lyrium and there is a plenty ex-kirkwall templar officers who turn to red ones, so Bariss and Samson was kinda a cheap replacement for Cullen role

 

I was hoped for at least Skyhold Judgement over Cullen after we would have Hawke and judgement over Hawke actions too

 

Totally agree with you there.

 

I'd really have liked for there to be a templar general for our Inquisition who resembled Knight-Commander Greagoir. The man wasn't as radical as Meredith, nor as soft as Thrask. He could work together with mages and yet not allow his friendly working relationship with Irving cloud his judgement. The very model of what a templar and commanding officer should be.

 

Instead, we get the young guy who's fanservice. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Totally agree with you there.

 

I'd really have liked for there to be a templar general for our Inquisition who resembled Knight-Commander Greagoir. The man wasn't as radical as Meredith, nor as soft as Thrask. He could work together with mages and yet not allow his friendly working relationship with Irving cloud his judgement. The very model of what a templar and commanding officer should be.

Gregoir was worst and beats pregnant woman mages and tranquil mage "father of the child"(and the real one was a templar who sleep with girl and leave her and after not said that he was a father and even kills her when she was run from circle to not give her baby), he literaly was a jerk as Meredith before some good blood mage dragon worshiper who saved a daughter of those killed mage woman send him a mind controled shriek assasin ans he was sh*t his pants..but he was saved by some enchanters and templars(one of them maybe was a young Vinn)

 

After Irving and Uldred was take controll over templars by lyrium and their work so templars mostly not gone far as they usually would with their "mages care"

 

Gregoir as old he become was afraid do anything without Irving

 

Trask was one of the only templars(second one was in the book last fly about female templar grey warden who have a father who was died cos of templars hunters) who really care about mages, he have a mage daughter who he is try to protect and then others, he just have to many problems that he cant solve by himself and Cullen was the one who stop him as others to get rid from Meredith they even cant send Divine a note...and plot(need a neutral-the same ending) thing with crazy mage female who consider hawke as meredith worker even if he was killed meredith templars to save her and others..the same was with Orsino

 

DA2 have moments then Cullen and later Meredith can be killed by blood mages if hawke just not have this quest who was as musthave

[ModernAcademic]

Gregoir was worst and beats pregnant woman mages and tranquil mage "father of the child"(and the real one was a templar who sleep with girl and leave her and after not said that he was a father and even kills her when she was run from circle to not give her baby), he literaly was a jerk as Meredith before some good blood mage dragon worshiper who saved a daughter of those killed mage woman send him a mind controled shriek assasin ans he was sh*t his pants..but he was saved by some enchanters and templars(one of them maybe was a young Vinn)

 

After Irving and Uldred was take controll over templars by lyrium and their work so templars mostly not gone far as they usually would with their "mages care"

 

Where's this information from? Greagoir in Origins doesn't fit this psychological profile. 

[The Baconer]

"Why is Cullen in all three games?"

 

Legions of fangirls, that's why.

 

Yeah.... As much as I do like him in Inquisition, we gotta be honest here. As Heimdall said, he realistically wouldn't even meet the qualifications as a military commander. 

 

Of course, I don't feel as strongly as others regarding this matter. I see you, Samson X Inquisitor fic. 

[Bad King]

Because other than Sir Barris who only appears in Inquisition he's the only interesting and likable Templar who hasn't died in previous games. Sir Otto got killed by the demon, that head Templar in Lothering likely died fighting the darkspawn horde in attempt to buy time for the refugees, that Templar investigator got killed trying to stop the serial murder who ended up killing Hawke's mother... Good Templars have tendency to die quicker than than a planet being attacked by Darth Nihilis.

 

What about Greagoir? Other than his radical agreement with Sten (made in the heat of the moment) on cutting out mages' tongues, he seemed all right. I'm surprised we didn't see him during Champions of the Just considering that the quest was based in Ferelden (his area of jurisdiction) - was he one of the generic lyrium monsters that we killed or something?

[Barquiel]

Where's this information from? Greagoir in Origins doesn't fit this psychological profile. 

 

It's in one of the early comics.

[The Baconer]

It's in one of the early comics.

 

Of course, said comic is painfully non-canon.