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#51
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An important question to consider is do we get an evil laugh?

 

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I'd rather not play as evil, but I wouldn't mind option for some manic laughing. It's kind of my pet peeve that villains tend to be sassy ones who seem to be having fun while protagonist's side seems more uptight. From my point of view in reality it's the other way, understanding and kind and generous people smile and laugh more and have imagination, while those who want to control others on stupidest details and are angry and maybe drink a lot tend to be joyless. (I do live among mostly secular people so I don't associate "good" with religious morals - if that's where that playful villain cliché originates? Of course being unsure or irritated can be relatable, but that too can manisfest as dorky sass or weird elevation.)

 

Protagonist actually laughing out loud might get grating, but I think one of the charming points in Mass Effect has been Shepard's personality, which could came off as a bit manic at times - both renegade and paragon, though I know more about his paragon reactions, and am just happy there's this gentle(ish!) protagonist who could surprise me at times with interesting and quirky way of thinking. I wasn't interested in most renegade options (maybe in debates with villains when it was about trying to make them undestand using the words they might get), paragon choices felt rather too naive though, but eventually paragonShep won me over. I also liked to see him smirking, with saved rachni and so on (though never saw that romance grin or wherever that memeface came from).

 

(Sorry if I use the unmedical term manic wrongly here. English not 1st language, dictionary didn't offer usable options, and I've read enough of old (nonenglish) books to adapt some old way of speaking anyway. I'm not trying to mean anything bad with it, though not outright good either, but more like a possibility that happened to go mostly well in Shepard's case. Something about your character feeling human, and roleplaying.)

 

 

I think Mass Effect has had pretty appropriate villains too so far, for my standards. Cerberus and reapers, what an accurate samples of evil. I'm not sure how you could join them without getting betrayed or dominated, so why should you want it in the first place. (Without crucible anyway.) You can always join Morinth at least. And support krogans or geth :bandit: as both are sketchy sides for certain pov, and I admit it's fun to choose your stance with them. It just probably wouldn't feel personal otherwise.



#52
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I was thinking about Bioware games, and I believe the two that had more room for you to play an evil character were KoTOR and Jade Empire, In both you could do some very nasty things but more importantly, the whole narrative of the game supported it. And in the end, you could pick a choice that would reflect your more violent and maybe even cruel character. You could argue Baldur's Gate 2 falls in that category too, but I also thought the game was meant to be played as a good guy.

But if you think about Mass Effect, it's harder to give you that freedom. You're playing a soldier, a hero. The game gives room for being ruthless, pragmatic and sometimes even cruel or sadistic. But it always has to coincide those choices with the fact you're a hero whose is in the end fighting to save the galaxy.

I believe this has a lot of to do with two things: i) Both Jade Empire and KoTOR were stand alone games, which made possible for very different endings. ii) The nature of the threat faced in those games compared to Mass Effect. In the former, the threat was "internal", in KoTOR you really could call it a civil war and in Jade Empire it was internal strife too, with the ambition of the emperor putting the nation at jeopardy. In Mass Effect however, the threat is disconnect with the galaxy. There is no room for you to side with them or something in those lines. The only choice is to fight them.

So it all depends what Andromeda will be. Will it be a stand alone game or part of a new trilogy? But more importantly in this discussion, I believe is to wonder what kind of "big bad" we will face. Honestly, and I said this a long time ago, I hope there are no Reaprs alike. I hope the enemies are just different species or organizations and that would give more room for your character to be different. 


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#53
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You don't have to go on top of mountain and say 'mwahahahaha' in order for everyone to take hint you wanna kill them.

 

The worst and most evil villain is one that wears sheep clothes....in another words the most evil kind of villain is always the hero.

 

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Let us play a time traveler in a single string timeline.

 

Worst villain to ever exist.



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I liked KOTOR having two endings, and I wouldn't mind having the option for a "dark" ending in Andromeda. Though it's likely (or even confirmed?) that the protag is connected to the Alliance, which makes being "pure" evil pretty unlikely. I suspect the renegade will probably get some douche-y options again though.
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I wouldnt mind the option to play as a conquerer. Alexander the Great in space.