Please refrain from any spoilers. I haven't even finished the game yet.
I was wondering what the proper narrative order to play is. Do events in DLC take place after the MQ ending or before the MQ ending? If it works either way, which should I play first?
For a first PT, I would wait to do the DLCs until after finishing the game the first time and then do them in order of release: JoH, Descent, and then Trespasser. You can play both JoH and Descent at any time after reaching Skyhold, however the level recommendation is fairly high (20) so you will probably want to wait until you are close to that level since combat can be difficult. Trespasser isn't available until after you beat the main game anyway, but you should save it for absolute last since it is an epilogue and locks out all other quests once you start it.
Modifié par Melbella, 02 janvier 2016 - 05:52 .
yeah as @melbella said wait until you've reached level 20 befoer taking on any of the dlc's as they can be quite a challenge and certainly have tougher opponents than in the main game levels. With Trespasser you have to wait till the end of the main story as it's an epilogue of sorts The other 2 can be done whenever you like but you will need to do both JoH and Descent before Trespasser if you plan on doing them as it locks everything you hasvenj't done out due to it being the close of the story. So make sure that you do everything you plan on doing before even considering doing Trespasser because once yu're in it there's nogooing back unless you go back to a previous save befoer activating it.
Personally, I'd run JoH before finishing the main game. it is level 20 but, level 17 is a good place to start it unless you are going for it on Nightmare or, with Walk Softly enabled, then hold off til 20. Decent, either is cool but I prefer doing it after The Final Piece but before Doom upon all the world. Of course Treaspasser has to be after.
I liked doing The Descent before The Western Approach and Jaws of Hakkon after The Final Piece and before Doom Upon All the World. Proper narrative order is pretty subjective. My preferred order worked out in my headcanon, it may not for others. In particular, some prefer to do Jaws of Hakkon after Doom Upon All The World, because it doesn't feel like something that would take priority with Corypheus still at large. That's fair. I was able to work it out because Jaws of Hakkon takes places just east of the Arbor Wilds; my Inquisitor went there more to hem Corypheus in than search for Ameridan.
I liked doing The Descent before The Western Approach and Jaws of Hakkon after The Final Piece and before Doom Upon All the World. Proper narrative order is pretty subjective. My preferred order worked out in my headcanon, it may not for others. In particular, some prefer to do Jaws of Hakkon after Doom Upon All The World, because it doesn't feel like something that would take priority with Corypheus still at large. That's fair. I was able to work it out because Jaws of Hakkon takes places just east of the Arbor Wilds; my Inquisitor went there more to hem Corypheus in than search for Ameridan.
Yeah, after playing the game and DLC's several times now, I do like doing Descent before game end, kind of in the middle actually, when I'm in that area for other missions (not saying which ones since this is in the no-spoiler forum 
). But for a first run, I think it would be better to do them in the order they were released.
Just got the game on Christmas and I would like to know is What level do I need to play Jaws of Hakkon, The Descent or Trespasser DLC?
As mentioned above, the difficulty spikes quite a bit in the DLCs, so the recommended level of 20 is a good indicator.
You need to finish the main quests in order to even survive in all three DLCs...they are not easy! They requires your level is above at least 20. The final boss in The Descent can be a pain in the *beep*,the last 2 bosses in Jaws of Hakkon can be a pain in the *beep*,and even the normal enemies in Trespasser can definitely be a pain in the *beep*.
As mentioned above, the difficulty spikes quite a bit in the DLCs, so the recommended level of 20 is a good indicator.
You need to finish the main quests in order to even survive in all three DLCs...they are not easy! They requires your level is above at least 20. The final boss in The Descent can be a pain in the *beep*,the last 2 bosses in Jaws of Hakkon can be a pain in the *beep*,and even the normal enemies in Trespasser can definitely be a pain in the *beep*.
I also would advise against playing the DLC before finishing the main story. Once I did that, and I was so powerfull that I killed the last boss in less than 2 minutes. It was very anticlimactic.
I'd run Jaws Of Hakkon after the main story, as it leads to some unique dialogue that you wouldn't get otherwise. It also has a pretty high level requirement (20+).
The Descent is basically the same no matter when you do it. There's only one line of dialogue that changes depending on whether you've finished the game or not, and the enemies scale to your level.
Trespasser is set 2 years after the end of the base game, so you're forced to do it after the main quests. Remember that you won't be able to complete any other quest/DLC after you start it!
I always p[ay the DLC after the main game regardless.
Did it both ways. In my official playthrough with my male human mage I did it after beating the main game, and I did it on Nightmare. It makes more story sense this way.
I also played through it on level 12 with my Dalish female mage. It was difficult, even on casual, but she had simulacrum, revival, and Kitty's Collar, so she was unkillable.
The main thing to remember is that you can only take Solas with you if you play it before the end of the game. But he doesn't add that much insight into any of it.
You can get one good anchor ability from the main plot of the DLC, but most of the items will be level 20 or higher.
The ability is useful in the main game, but doesn't do anything in the final battle except help against the red lyrium dragon slightly.
anything less than 20 level in Jaws of hakkon and your ass is going to hurt a lot.
Great dlc with difficulty that forces you to pay attention.
Did it both ways. In my official playthrough with my male human mage I did it after beating the main game, and I did it on Nightmare. It makes more story sense this way.
I also played through it on level 12 with my Dalish female mage. It was difficult, even on casual, but she had simulacrum, revival, and Kitty's Collar, so she was unkillable.
The main thing to remember is that you can only take Solas with you if you play it before the end of the game. But he doesn't add that much insight into any of it.
You can get one good anchor ability from the main plot of the DLC, but most of the items will be level 20 or higher.
The ability is useful in the main game, but doesn't do anything in the final battle except help against the red lyrium dragon slightly.
yeah I find the new anchor ability useful for dealing with the Dragons
I'm playing the DLC after the main game and Cassandra just asked Dorian what he thinks Corypheus is up to.... Glitch?
I'm playing the DLC after the main game and Cassandra just asked Dorian what he thinks Corypheus is up to.... Glitch?
in my game last night corypheus defeat was acknowledged
in my game last night corypheus defeat was acknowledged
Not in mine.
I'm playing the DLC after the main game and Cassandra just asked Dorian what he thinks Corypheus is up to.... Glitch?
Which DLC? Only Trespasser is designed to be played after Corephyshit is beaten. I'm guessing that the random banter in JoH and Descent (which has very little anyway) is mostly recycled from the main game.
Which DLC? Only Trespasser is designed to be played after Corephyshit is beaten. I'm guessing that the random banter in JoH and Descent (which has very little anyway) is mostly recycled from the main game.
Yeah it was JOH.
1) The DLC fits in well in the order released. Ending --> Jaws of Hakkon --> The Descent -----> Trespasser (this one locks out everything else, FYI; its the 'epilogue')
Since Jaws of Hakkon is an 'open zone', you can feel free to return to go more completionist on it after Descent.
2) If you want to do them (not counting Trespasser) before the ending, you can. Being well into the Lv 10s is suggested (technically early 10s is possible, but IMO too hard to be worth it, nor really fitting in at that point in the main plot), and Lv 20s is best. Like Mass Effect 3, there's some 'gaps' in main plot where it makes a sort of sense that the Inquisitor may be up to 'other stuff' before the final fights/areas, so in there you can fit one or both of the DLCs.
There's a bit of different dialogue depending on if you do them during or post main game, but IMO not enough to make your decision hinge on it.
3) A good reference IMO is the (crafted) gear tiers for the content.
Tier 1 - Your time at Haven, ~Lv 5-10
Tier 2 - Your early time at Skyhold, ~Lv 10-15
Tier 3 - Your late time at Skyhold, ~Lv 15-20
Then only Tier 4 materials, not any schematics, are available in the main DAI game.
Tier 4 - DLC, all three. ~Lv 20-25(27?)
Its up to you if you want access to this Tier 4 Lv 20s stuff during a game that only presumes you have Tier 3 Lv 10s-early 20s available. I recall even the best loot drops in main game DAI to be Lv ~23, while the actual max character level is Lv 27.
All the DLC gives enough leniency to not assume you've completed any other DLC, though I'd suppose Trespasser (especially its higher difficulties) less than the others, in some ways. But of course doing all three, even just their main content, makes you a powerhouse by the final-final boss (Trespasser).
Basically, DAI may have a level cap of 27 but its Lv 20s content is relatively sparse compared to its Lv 10s, so DLC fills that out. Progression pacing-wise, that doesn't make it fit the best during the main game. They are also shown as mostly departures from the events of the main game, but also just enough of a side-adventure that they also make enough sense as an additional thing the Inquisitor can be up to.
Personally, my answer is no, don't do it before main quest. But its up to you.
anything less than 20 level in Jaws of hakkon and your ass is going to hurt a lot.
Great dlc with difficulty that forces you to pay attention.
What if you use the Permanent Barrier and No Cooldown mods?
1) The DLC fits in well in the order released. Ending --> Jaws of Hakkon --> The Descent -----> Trespasser (this one locks out everything else, FYI; its the 'epilogue')
Since Jaws of Hakkon is an 'open zone', you can feel free to return to go more completionist on it after Descent.
Can you not return down to the deep roads as you please or is it a case of once you're done that's it?
Can you not return down to the deep roads as you please or is it a case of once you're done that's it?
@AnimalBoy; You can pop back-n-forth from both the Frostbacks (JoH) and the Deep Roads (Descent) although It's a bit harder from the Deep Roads. The game treats everything other than the base camp as an "interior", so you have to get back there before the World Map becomes accessible
(But for those who don't know, it's only possible to start Trespasser after completing the main game. And once started, there's no return from the Winter Palace to the rest of the world. Which is why there's a merchant, a forge, your storage chest, etc., available at Halamshiral.)
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