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#1
Vossie

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I decided to play this again, having run through it three times and beaten it on nightmare earlier this year, coinciding with a friend who decided to play - she bought the GoTY version at $30.

 

In trying to teach her to play, she kept saying characters were getting frozen in combat, doing nothing and nothing she could do could make them move or act. I of course assumed she was doing something wrong because the UI of this game will never receive any awards for clarity or ease of use. 

 

But then I fired up the Descent DLC as I hadn't played it, and in the first combat one of my characters froze and refused to do anything. And it kept happening. And worse, the two dwarf companions along with you (on the first Warrens mission) kept getting stuck also. I eventually found out I could clear the stuck state by having the character jump, but:

 

1) When you're playing on Nightmare, the seconds required to have a player jump and then get them back in the action is a SERIOUS problem.

 

2) The mission is designed assuming you're getting assistance from the Legion guy and the shaper. When they get stuck, there is nothing you can do to unstick them and they're just out of the fight.

 

Then I go and look and find this bug that is BAD and has serious negative effects on gameplay has existed for 7 months with no effort whatsoever to fix? How did these updates even get through QA? There is no way QA could have run a real regression suite on this without the problem being blatantly obvious.

 

So what is the situation here? My friend paid $30 for her GoTY edition, and if that had been the version originally released the reviewers would have given this game a C- for having so much potential almost ruined by a bug that could be found by any tester in 10 minutes of combat.

 

I really like DA:I, I can't say how thankful I was that they shoveled the abomination of DA2 into the pit of hell it deserves and returned to what made DA:O so great. But I am really upset right now that when I play I can't enjoy combat at all because I'm constantly having to watch every character to see if they're stuck - in a long fight I will get 4-6 instances of someone getting stuck. I can't just give a character a command and then switch to the next guy- I have to wait on every one to make sure they're actually doing something.

 

If there's a fix for this (other than the jumping workaround) that I've missed, I'll withdraw all of the above. But if this has really existed this way for 7 months now, I want to know who the scrum master is and whatever associate producer owns the bug backlog, I'll send them an invite to meet me in an alley in Denerim and they better goddamned come armed for dragons.

 



#2
katerinafm

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Yeah, I have this problem often while playing as well, I think I started noticing it happening a lot ever since the first DLC, Jaws of Hakkon. I think you can get out of the stuck state by forcing the character to use an ability also. It is very frustrating, and since the patches are done it looks like we're stuck with it :/. Maybe if a lot of new players bring the bug to the attention of the devs through twitter and it gets enough attention they'll do something about it, but I doubt it.



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Amplitudelol

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...I really like DA:I, I can't say how thankful I was that they shoveled the abomination of DA2 into the pit of hell it deserves and returned to what made DA:O so great. But I am really upset right now that when I play I can't enjoy combat at all because I'm constantly having to watch every character to see if they're stuck - in a long fight I will get 4-6 instances of someone getting stuck. I can't just give a character a command and then switch to the next guy- I have to wait on every one to make sure they're actually doing something....

 

Thanks, you made my day :D! Anyway, ive had a similar problem but i encountered it rarely (with the newest version of the game but not goty edition) and never found out what was causing it. There will be no new patches, dont expect it, either you do something or it wont be solved.



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Dai Grepher

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Yep. Characters get stuck, and enemies can also get stuck. Ruining both the fairness and the challenge of the game.

 

"We got your money. No more patches. See you for DA4!" - BioWare while laughing atop a large pile of money, probably.



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feudaljune

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Oh my god, saaame! It's been driving me mad. I had actually taken a good year break from DA:I and bought all the DLC in anticipation of getting back into it, but had never run into this problem previously.

I've noticed too that is most often triggered on my characters that use stealth. Even a mage wearing Ring of Doubt (triggers stealth) had this issue. A jump or an ability will reset it, but it can get annoying when you're in a rough dragon battle.

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elrofrost

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I just happened to me. Dorian was stuck. He he wouldn't move - no jumping, casting a spell - nothing.

 

Very annoying. But I doubt we'll ever see a fix. This game is done and BW isn't coming back to it. So save often.



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Vossie

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So BIOWARE, is that really the situation here? You don't even QA the last patch, significantly break the game, and then CONTINUE TO SELL a broken product? Is that really the way you intend to treat the loyal fans?



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Dancing_Dolphin

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Well OP, you certainly have a flair for being overly dramatic.

This is not a game breaking bug. It's annoying as heck, sure, but not game breaking. You're not the first to discover this bug or the first to complain about it, so if you're expecting some kind of response from BioWare, I hope you're not holding your breath.

I hate this bug too, especially because the freezing seems to happen more often the harder the difficulty (or maybe it's simply more apparent), but I found the Golden Nug helped to compensate by providing the player with early access to high level gear and potions/bombs etc. Characters still freeze but there is less dying. Of course this only works if you have already been through the game once, but like I said, it's less of a problem on easier difficulties.

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the abomination of DA2

 

 

LOL



#10
Dai Grepher

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Just play solo, then you don't have to worry about getting stuck. (Well, you still get stuck sometimes, but it's easier to get out of it.)



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GoldenGail3

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LOL


I don't know about you; but some DA2 fans are probaly mustering there forces.

Sarcasm.