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MichaelN7

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I'd rather they didn't use swearing at all.

 

There are at least 100,000 words in the English language that are adjectives.

If a person can't be bothered to use more than 6, then they're too stupid for anything else.



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Like Maker's Breath? 

 

Uh, a little Dragon Age in this one....

 



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What do you guys think? Does swearing equal more mature language? Or should it be avoided?  

The less swearing and profanity the better.

No, swearing does not equal more mature language. It's more immature than mature.

It should be avoided, or rather have a dialogue type avoid it while another type allows it. 


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I'm fine with the swearing.


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There is no need for such language.

 

 I hear enough of it from teenagers and their gutter mouths already. In a game, it diminishes the character in my eyes.


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Swearing is fine when it's necessary. 

Excessive swearing is childish.

When timed right it can be quite funny. 


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Uh, a little Dragon Age in this one....

 

 

Yeah; i know. Sue me i used a Dragon Age quote in the ME forums!



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I don't mind the odd swear word here and there.


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Heya Guys, 

 

This topic has probably been discussed before, but I was just curious about your opinions. Some games, and I won't explicitly mention them to avoid Bioware vs. Rest debates, use language which is considered more mature (aka swearing). I personally tend to swear a lot when I'm frustrated, so am glad if I see my character express his/her frustrations in a similar manner. For instance a more renegade type of character would, in my humble opinion of course, be more likely to swear than a paragon character who would probably opt for more diplomatic language. However especially in the stressful situations we're bound to end up in, I can imagine my character yelling out an insult or two. 

 

 

I'm not necessarily arguing that Bioware is severely lacking in the mature language department, but I couldn't help but feel a great sense of joy when my Inquisitor asked whether 'thinks could stay f#cking fixed for one second', which I didn't have that often in Bioware games. 

 

What do you guys think? Does swearing equal more mature language? Or should it be avoided?  

Bioware's games have always had a more matuer label on them anyway as in a moer adult game after akll we do se blood splatter when we get a headshot in ME or decaptaitate someone with our sword in DA buty as long as they don't over do it and there is a danger of overdoing it I don't see a problem. Personally I think they've founjd a good level so should for me keep things as they aer in terms of explicit language.



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I am fine with swearing people who get upset or can not handle swearing need to stop being so sensitive there just words.


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Like sprinkling pepper on my beef stroganoff. Has to be done. 


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I think the gore in Me3 is lazy and forcefully shoved in for the sake of getting more jabronies to buy it along with the "Earth is special" ads. 

I can handle swearing but not lazy special effects. 



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There is no need for such language.

 

 I hear enough of it from teenagers and their gutter mouths already. In a game, it diminishes the character in my eyes.

 

How would it diminish a character? I'd say you could consider one's use of language a character trait. That might mean you have less affinity with a certain character, but that shouldn't necessarily diminish their personality.


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I don't mind swearing but I prefer smart swearing
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Hanako Ikezawa

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I don't mind swearing but I prefer smart swearing

Smart swearing sounds like an oxymoron. Can you give an example?



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Cut that out.

I don't appreciate it, so can we just be civil?



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There's no need to be uncivil.


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This is precisely what I was talking about, out of all the things you could have contributed, this is what you pick?

Is it too hard for you to be a civil human being?



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This is precisely what I was talking about, out of all the things you could have contributed, this is what you pick?

Is it too hard for you to be a civil human being?

 

Not familiar with the concept of situational comedy are ya? Hmm......looks like you got far bigger problems than disliking profanity.


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You know what is less believable than biotics and space magic?

 

A future where no one says **** you.


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I don't mind but I kind of wish ME had it's own swearing like DA does- like when Tali calls people Bosh'tet.  It can add something to a scene, like Varric saying "Well ****" in DAI.  It comes as a totally appropriate response to what has just happened.



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You know what I think about swearing? I think it's weird that the Bioware games are full of cussing these days, but the official forums for those same games... don't allow cussing. That's a headscratcher.

Also, I'm fine with a decent amount of cussing. Metal Gear Solid (1) got it right. Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 are fine. But I felt like they added a lot of cuss words to Dragon Age II just because "Look! Dark and edgy!"
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Not familiar with the concept of situational comedy are ya? Hmm......looks like you got far bigger problems than disliking profanity.

Yes, I have to deal with people who can't hold a conversation.

 

But thank you for clarifying that you were "just joking"



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A question to those that are against profanity / swearing as a rule:

 

How would you suggest handling naturally abrasive characters like Jack, Zaeed, and other characters similar to them in regards to speech patterns?

 

I'm trying to imagine Zaeed "Gosh darn it" Massani talking in a polite and politically correct manner. Epic failure. Can you?

Ditto for Jack.

 

What is the solution? Not to use characters of this type at all? Force them to be polite even if it is clearly at odds with their personality and past?

 

 

I think that a good writer with any hope of writing a good story, needs to respect his characters, their background, their emotional state,

and their education (or lack there off). You can't just create franken-charachters by randomly attaching different elements to each other.

 

Is this "no profanity" thing so precious to you that you are willing to sacrifice potentially interesting characters and coherent story telling for it?


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A question to those that are against profanity / swearing as a rule:
 
How would you suggest handling naturally abrasive characters like Jack, Zaeed, and other characters similar to them in regards to speech patterns?
 
I'm trying to imagine Zaeed "Gosh darn it" Massani talking in a polite and politically correct manner. Epic failure. Can you?
Ditto for Jack.
 
What is the solution? Not to use characters of this type at all? Force them to be polite even if it is clearly at odds with their personality and past?
 
 
I think that a good writer with any hope of writing a good story, needs to respect his characters, their background, their emotional state,
and their education (or lack there off). You can't just create franken-charachters by randomly attaching different elements to each other.
 
Is this "no profanity" thing so precious to you that you are willing to sacrifice potentially interesting characters and coherent story telling for it?


Personally believe that such characters to not need to be stereotyped into the usual mold. Not all these characters need to use profanity to make their points. In fact, in both of these examples, they seem to have a decent knowledge of their fields of expertise, and restraint in their vocabulary would also be believable to such characters. I actually prefer Jack in ME3 because of her choice to be retrained in front of her students.

And when swearing wonders from the lore and social culture of said characters, it is even less immersive. In DAI, such NPC's used phraseology that was outside the lore, and in the ME series, some aliens continued to use terms that were not of their culture. Much prefer the use of fictional slang that is proper to the setting; not some Jr HS locker-room....
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