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[Akrabra]

Oh my god, just give them the damn toggle for gore and bleeps. Jesus christ. Everyone wins and I can keep mine off. There.

 

(I've read the entire thread from 1 to 39. Pretty surreal experience.)

Why oh why would you hurt yourself in such a way?

[Morty Smith]

Oh my god, just give them the damn toggle for gore and bleeps. Jesus christ.

 

That would only be fair. What I'm trying to say is ...

 

Spoiler

[Han Shot First]

I very seriously would pay money for a dlc they modded the game to that. It would be glorious.

 

It would make for entertaining youtube vids and memes, at the very least.

[FKA_Servo]

An ass aneurysm would be something to watch!

That was the name of my high school band.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Comparing a gore toggle to a dialogue toggle is a false equivalence. Gore filters do not potentially require that scenes be rewritten around them.

 

As far as I'm concerned, a dialogue toggle would be no less egregious than a gay/straight toggle or a feature allowing the player to edit companion appearance. In all cases, it's asking for the player to be granted an inappropriate level of control over characters that are not the protagonist. 

 

This. A gore toggle is simple, don't add in the blood textures and call it a day. Changing words every time there's a swear would make the VA budget increase, and if a character is designed to swear a lot their dialog would become utterly ridiculous. Adding beeps would make the entire game feel silly, this isn't supposed to be a sitcom. I do not want ressources to be wasted on this. 

 

I also believe that starting to add toggles for something as mundane as swearing sets a precedent that I don't like. The devs don't have to sanitize their game if they don't want to, and I personally don't want them to, even optionally. If you start to change this aspect of the narrative with a toggle, well I fear you potentialyy open the floodgates for several other narrative toggles, including the infamous ''gay toggle'', and I am absolutely against that.

 

There's a warning for profanity on the box. If you can bear it, buy the game, If you cannot, don't. Swearing toggles have no place in a 18+ games, no more than a ''sex toggle'' or ''violence toggle'' or ''cancer toggle'' or whatever. 

[Sarayne]

They should add a combat/violence toggle because killing people is wrong and offensive! /s 

[sleasye74]

Swear words or curse words are just words that got labeled as such by people who think they are bad/disgusting/ect.
To me swear words when used right can convey emotions better than most words. I have worked in restaurants, landscaping, and construction so I have been around a lot of swearing, good or bad timing and personality of whom your speaking with changes with each person.

If your a person who doesn't swear a lot, then a person who does swear a lot might take a little long to befriend or trust you because they may see you as trying to put up a front as being a cant do or don't do no wrong person(trust me I have seen this a lot in the restaurant biz) and the same goes for the opposite(in landscaping a lot of people act differently than they really are). When it comes to construction I worked with all types of people but most swear and most don't mind it either.

When it comes to ME:A I feel swearing is good when used right because your gunna have all different kinds of personalities playing this game and you have to think of everyone not just a few
Example: fallout 4 when you confront Kellogg with your PC "Where's my f*cking son!" 100/100 times I would say the same thing in that situation. I could not see anybody being in that situation in real life(face to face with your sons kidnapper) saying fracking or freaking over f*cking

[Dreadstruck]

Why oh why would you hurt yourself in such a way?

 

I don't know. It's 3:28 AM here. I started at 2:36 and here I am. Maybe I am just masochistically bored. Or worse.

[Iakus]

I'd support a profanity filter so long as it resulted in a horrific dubbing of the profane words with something that sounds like it came out of Flanders' mouth. 

 

"Good googly-moogly, Ryder! Get down!"
 

That could be amusing. Also the complaint posts from some of those who wanted a profanity filter would be gold. 

I'd have that on all the time, and I'm not even all that bothered by Bioware's use of language

[Lucca_de_Neon]

Kinda funny how everything was so serious for days until just a moment ago and we destroyed all evidence of that in a matter of minutes. Good job, everyone! i'm proud of you!

[Iakus]

Comparing a gore toggle to a dialogue toggle is a false equivalence. Gore filters do not potentially require that scenes be rewritten around them.

 

Having the gore toggle off in DAO means Dog can't clean you off and regain health from it...

[FKA_Servo]

Kinda funny how everything was so serious for days until just a moment ago and we destroyed all evidence of that in a matter of minutes. Good job, everyone! i'm proud of you!

I can only speak for myself, but when I post after hours, it's typically involves less work induced apathy and more bourbon.

[sleasye74]

Having the gore toggle off in DAO means Dog can't clean you off and regain health from it...

For real?

[Han Shot First]

Having the gore toggle off in DAO means Dog can't clean you off and regain health from it...

 

He regained health from it? 

 

I never noticed that. 

[Iakus]

He regained health from it? 

 

I never noticed that. 

Not much, but yeah

[Lucca_de_Neon]

I can only speak for myself, but when I post after hours, it's typically involves less work induced apathy and more bourbon.

You are doing a fine job, sir. I approve!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Example: fallout 4 when you confront Kellogg with your PC "Where's my f*cking son!" 100/100 times I would say the same thing in that situation. I could not see anybody being in that situation in real life(face to face with your sons kidnapper) saying fracking or freaking over f*cking

I wouldn't. One of the things I dislike most about FO4 is this right here, forcing your protagonist to swear. I'm fine if it's in the game(would prefer it not but can tolerate it) because a lot of people do, but at the very least let me be able to have my character avoid it. 

[SardaukarElite]

Comparing a gore toggle to a dialogue toggle is a false equivalence. Gore filters do not potentially require that scenes be rewritten around them.

 

It's probably also worth noting that a gore toggle is a relatively straightforward thing, usually already included with the game because of content laws in different nations. Whereas unless I'm missing something a language filter would require either creating alternate audio for every offending line or at least flagging every offending line so that it could be modified at run-time by bleeps or some kind of Ned Flanders filter. 

[Lucca_de_Neon]

What about discrimation? like making fun of quarians and their tummy aches! I'm watching you, Bioware >_>

[Donk]

That was the name of my high school band.

Are you in Rectal Smegma?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Two words:  "Thanix missiles..." 

 

The way it was delivered...The specific voice used to deliver it... 

Best NPC line in the whole of ME3! 

 

So, yes, expletives, when properly employed, definitely add to my gaming experience.

The only expletive I think is appropriate for that situation is "WTF is a thanix missile?" 

 

 

If you don't remember the line, then your rewrite as above would be appropriate.

 

I'd quote the whole thing here, but it'd get ***censored***. 

[afgncaap7]

Some people swear a lot.  Therefore swearing is realistic

Some people don't swear at all.  Therefore not swearing is realistic

 

Both statements are true.  Therefore, arguing that one is valid and the other is not is pointless

 

I don't think the point here is expelling all swearing from the game so much as "How can it be avoided or at least minimized?"

 

Actually as I said before, if different races are going to be living and working that closely together, it's entirely possible that they'll adopt words from each others' languages.  Including swear words.

 

 But the point was if you're going to complain about lack of swearing as being unrealistic, I could point at some other things about the setting that are even less so, even taking into account things like eezo 

This is the last time I'm wasting my time on you and I only have one thing to say. Go back and take a look at my previous comments. Go and count how many times I very specifically pointed out that I. Do. Not. Personally. Care. If. There. Is. Any. Swearing. With each response you make it clearer and clearer that you see only what you want to see. Have fun fumbling in the darkness that is your life.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Gore toggles? You simply turn off blood spatter. 

 

Language toggles aren't smart, and they have to be extensive. For example if you write the word mishit which is a perfectly normal word meaning an incorrect hit, the last four letters of it are a cuss word. The language toggle would bleep part of the word because of the way it's spelled, not because of the way it's pronounced. This is why you won't see a language toggle. It would require a lot of resources to write a decent one. Got it, now?

 

I for one find artistic censorship offensive. The games have been rated M for a reason, and have content that's rated M. If you want to play a game that's rated T or E buy a different title. That's your prerogative. 

 

One thing I've learned after working for over 40 years is that when you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. You end up with a very mediocre product.

[afgncaap7]

Since we are almost certainly their superior officer, would we get to reprimand them if they do? 

Heh, only if she's cute...

[Dalakaar]

31 pages of recycled arguments that will chase it's own tail like Ouroboros leaves a lesson to learn.

40 now and I have some gifs that I believe convey my attitude towards this topic's prolific nature.