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I've read all of this thread up to date, and it's funny to me. I wonder how many people are like me and can see both sides of this debate?

I don't care either way, so long as I don't have Nicky from Goodfellas as a teammate. That's a little overkill for me, even though I love Martin Scorsese. As a side note, seeing Nicky's "Am I a clown? Do I amuse you" speech on TBS was comedy gold.

There should be limits. Jack was the only character that swore frenquently, and used R rated language a lot. Zaeed had a couple, but gosh dang (like I said, been reading this thread) or SOB was his favorite saying. Aria only has a few too(bare in mind, I don't have Omega) and James has one or two that I can think of. Oh and Sidonis. If you tell him during Garrus' personal quest, he drops a short and direct F-bomb. I thought that was understandable given the circumstances.

Most of the language in BW games fits easily in the PG-13 rating. While I agree the English language (and others) have many words to express things, I think in some situtations a blunt and crude way of speaking can add quite a bit to character developement. Your Mileage May Vary there.

I'm not going to spend several posts on this. In the end, while I see the merit that adult language can provide for a story, the characters can curse or choose not to. It would be weird for a character like Liara or Josie to start dropping F-bombs, but it makes sense for someone like Zaeed or Iron Bull.

As someone else pointed out much earlier in the thread, it's like a good seasoning. A little bit can add some heat and emphasis to a scene. Too much and it sounds like an 8 year old that just learned how to curse in context. Personally, I'm playing an M rated game, and the occasionally F-bomb isn't going to phase me any. I'd rather not tell the writers how much they should or should not have their characters curse. I want them to write the character they way they want, whether it be a religious figure that would never dare use such words to express themselves, or an angry and embittered veteran that curses constantly.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want more than one companion that cursed all over the place. Some blue language is welcome by me, but again, too much spice will kill the dish. So to speak. I'm not going to cast too much judgement on what folks find offensive. It's a subjective argument that, most of the time, proves fruitless. Just my two credits and no harm meant. :)
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Yes, i hate it when games obviously "censor" themselves, what sort of audience are you targeting in a game loaded with violence but pg-13 dialogue?


Do not recall DAO being all that bad in language choice, yet remains one of the best written games for a mature audience.
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Do not recall DAO being all that bad in language choice, yet remains one of the best written games for a mature audience.

To be clear, a game having a lot of profanity or little to none does not particularly matter to me, i have an issue with dialogue blatantly written with profanity in mind and then changed because of whatever reason, then you end up with replacing ****** with fricking etc, which sound ridiculous.

 

I am very happy so far with the way BioWare has handled profanity, it suits their type of games very well, being reserved with profanity like BioWare are allows them to more efficiently use profanity to elevate an emotional or comedic scene.


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To be clear, a game having a lot of profanity or little to none does not particularly matter to me, i have an issue with dialogue blatantly written with profanity in mind and then changed because of whatever reason, then you end up with replacing ****** with fricking etc, which sound ridiculous.
 
I am very happy so far with the way BioWare has handled profanity, it suits their type of games very well, being reserved with profanity like BioWare are allows them to more efficiently use profanity to elevate an emotional or comedic scene.


And again, DAO and later games have had lore replacements, and still remains well written. However, the sequels started to include more RL profanity, which is what I object, since it is unnecessary.
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For what it's worth, I wouldn't want more than one companion that cursed all over the place. Some blue language is welcome by me, but again, too much spice will kill the dish...

 

Here's the thing though - many people don't swear to be "spicy" or even to emphasise a point, it's practically just filler with all the emphasis of "ummmmm". There's no innate ability for the f-word to cause offence when it's not being used in an offensive manner - it's one thing to call someone a "daft c****" when they've locked their keys in their car and another thing entirely to call someone a "daft c***" and get right up in their face when they've spilt your pint.

 

Often it's not what you say - but how you say it. That's why I don't have a particularly strong issue, one way or another, with the language of characters in BioWare's games. Jack uses language most similarly to people I know - she uses the f-word in both a jokey way and an angry way - though she's still quite restrained really. Whilst Zaeed sounds like some people I've known :)

 

Most of the rest of the Mass Effect crew I just chalk up to cultural differences as to why they're so "polite"... except Kaiden - that wet sack never survives ME1; he's far too nicey nicey.


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I suggest we discuss all this until page 50, then call it a day and switch to "What dou you guys think about sweating?"

 

And I already want to say my position on sweating is clearly and ultimately very much balanced and even, as it wholly depends on what is the thing that makes you sweat, as the are pleasurable as well as ... *sigh* nevermind...

 

Ah, well people, proceed with the swearing-thing, before I am called names here...


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#1184
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lol, but Renegade ME1 Kaidan is kinda funny; "I hope they’ll wake up after you pull their nuts out of the fire."


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Hey everybody!

 

You're friendly, neighborhood "Be Nice" guy is here!



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I haven't read up on the entire thread, cause I'm too lazy lol but I think I recall commenting on it back then when it was created. I'll do it again!! :D

 

I don't mind swearing, I do it sometimes myself and it doesn't mean I'm upset, it's just the way I talk xD



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What an original post! It's never been be done before, I guess. Why didn't I think of starting such a thread on Jan. 01?  I must have been taking lessons on how to improve myself at the school for "I never want to swear again in my life," because my older sister will slap me with a bed pillow. Cat fight!!!!  And we'll be mud wrestling while watching a WWF pay-per-view show. I'm bored.....

 

And I even beat my sister to a pulp to get her to stop wearing. I won!



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I don't think it matters what I think about it... it's here to stay and I doubt they'll come up with any sort of toggle to turn it off like blood unless it's just by add "beeps" into the sound track.  Voicing things twice to get a swear-free version is just too expensive.  I would certainly find "bleeps" in the soundtrack more annoying than even overt profanity.



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I've read all of this thread up to date, and it's funny to me. 

 

Were you able to get through all of it without swearing?  :D


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Were you able to get through all of it without swearing?  :D


Nat's a masochist TBH.

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What an original post! It's never been be done before, I guess. Why didn't I think of starting such a thread on Jan. 01? I must have been taking lessons on how to improve myself at the school for "I never want to swear again in my life," because my older sister will slap me with a bed pillow. Cat fight!!!! And we'll be mud wrestling while watching a WWF pay-per-view show. I'm bored.....

And I even beat my sister to a pulp to get her to stop wearing. I won!


Oh wow. Can I watch? ;)

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Were you able to get through all of it without swearing?  :D


I was able to read the thread and not swear at it. I was too busy chuckling over the overreaction from some of the posters on this topic. It still amuses me that with all the things in the ME (or DA series,) suddenly language is the problem. A character that kill through sex, leading to a non-standard game over? Just fine. The loads of violence and use of weapons? A-okay. A little blue language, maybe just above a PG-13 rating? That's the line. It can be justified and explained by some posters for the next year and I'll never understand that.

I can't lie though. I did swear while reading, but that was because the puppy was using the 12 year old dog as a chew toy. While my husband was trying to sleep. I was cussing at puppy, not at the thread. ;)
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I was able to read the thread and not swear at it. I was too busy chuckling over the overreaction from some of the posters on this topic. It still amuses me that with all the things in the ME (or DA series,) suddenly language is the problem. A character that kill through sex, leading to a non-standard game over? Just fine. The loads of violence and use of weapons? A-okay. A little blue language, maybe just above a PG-13 rating? That's the line. It can be justified and explained by some posters for the next year and I'll never understand that.

I can't lie though. I did swear while reading, but that was because the puppy was using the 12 year old dog as a chew toy. While my husband was trying to sleep. I was cussing at puppy, not at the thread. ;)


Aww but that's cute! :P
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Aww but that's cute! :P

I'm mostly numb to the cute when he's messing with the oldest dog. Especially when my husband is trying to sleep during the afternoon because he has to work that night. The puppy is sweet, and I do love the little dork. However...

Anyone else remember this Dennis Leary bit?

"Dad! Dad! Dad dad dad..."
"What!?!? What the F do you want? I know F is a bad word but you keep making me F'ing say it."

Okay, that's even funnier with censoring. :P
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I've had almost all my posts removed and received two warning points from this thread, despite the fact that I never swore in any of them. The only conclusion that I can draw from this is that "swearing" qualifies as anything you say that someone doesn't like. I will proceed to yell, "Stop swearing!" at everyone who dares to disagree with me.


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I've had almost all my posts removed and received two warning points from this thread, despite the fact that I never swore in any of them. The only conclusion that I can draw from this is that "swearing" qualifies as anything you say that someone doesn't like. I will proceed to yell, "Stop swearing!" at everyone who dares to disagree with me.


You probably offended a certain somebody who has nothing better to do but hit the report button ;)
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You probably offended a certain somebody who has nothing better to do but hit the report button ;)

 

Stop swearing!


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Stop swearing!


Reported.

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Hope the next game follows the forum policy, or betters it.

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I ****** love cursing!


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