I swear a lot in real life. A lot.
I really don´t mind swearing in games, but I noticed one problem: the voice actors are not always comfortable with it.
In Witcher III there was a character with a particularly nasty habit to use swear-words for nearly everything.
The german voice actor failed horribly. I could hear the quotation marks...
I'd prefer if there is some swearing included. Though it's awkward how we can't swear here on forums despite everyone being adults- or most of us due to BW's games being rated Mature after all- and there is already some swearing in BW's actual games. Anyways, I'm in side that there should be swearing in contexts where it fits, but I'm don't want BW to go overboard for it and go close to Saint Row with swearing for example (it works for Saint Row's wibe, but it would be too much for ME).
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Hahaha, I grew up in Boston. I am at the same time not surprised it is within the top 5 cities for swearing and surprised that it isn't #1. Ever seen the Departed? Brilliant movie. That is literally how everyone talks there.
Nope. Skipped that, The Sopranos, GoT, TW3, the FO series, Deadwood, and many other works due to profanity among other factors.
If you're prepared to avoid some really great works because of a few words, it seems there's no point in discussing the benefits off profanity with you then.
It's fine as long as you don't relegate all characters to the same stereotype or character voice (Mac).
I can only take so many lines that go like "Hell, we almost died. It's a god damn miracle we survived" and "Hey, what you yellin' about over there, son?" before it starts to feel annoying. Not every character has to be super grumbly and tongue-n-cheek (Mac). I just hate it when it starts to read like The Walking Dead TV show. Realism is fine, just don't go overboard with the sense of real-talk. The Last of Us has the same problem IMO and is one of the main reasons I think Neil Druckmann is totally overrated, at least if someone were to praise him for his dialogue. I just felt a lot of characters started talking more like that, just in Mass Effect 3. The real-talk started in 2, but there was a better balance of tongue-in-cheek characters vs solemn vs ordinary, probably because we had guys like Drew Kaypyshyn and L'Etoile who were more straightforward about dialogue.
I don't ever want to hear a Geth swear and personally I think "******!" should be relegated to humans only. Tali or Garrus going "****!" is funny enough.
If you're prepared to avoid some really great works because of a few words, it seems there's no point in discussing the benefits off profanity with you then.
an easy way for me to figure out how many swear words I used was to be around little kids where I watched my mouth. It also makes people angrier when you're nice to them when they flip out. Much more amusing to me than to cuss right back at them.
The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
an easy way for me to figure out how many swear words I used was to be around little kids where I watched my mouth. It also makes people angrier when you're nice to them when they flip out. Much more amusing to me than to cuss right back at them.
OT story about that. I was at my friends where yes I try to moderate my swearing due to them having kids. One boy said he didn't want to hang out with one of his friends. The mom asked why, he said he gets in trouble all the time. The mom asks what for. The kid says, he swears a lot, even more than uncle ray. Guess who uncle ray was in this story.
The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
What about "bosh'tet"? 
What about "bosh'tet"?
That's a good example of what they should have done for the whole setting instead of the one outside example from the Quarians.
The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
I feel that way with the alien languages in general. I know it becomes a language we understand due to translators, but I would have liked it if there were more alien words. Throughout the trilogy we only got less than half a dozen terms.
I avoid swearing in my day to day life to the point that some of my friends tease me for it, but I love lots of movies with a high profanity quotient. Most of them are by Guy Ritchie or Quentin Tarantino.
I'd be all for either of them working on one of these games, and I have absolutely no issue with the inclusion of whatever profanity the writers put in, but there is something to be said for making up fake swear words in a science fiction setting. For one thing, it avoids the issue of regional variations and the slight problem of having people so far into the future using the exact same common swear words that we use today.
Some of today's english "bad" words are still rooted in the old british class system. It stretches plausibillity if the way society in a setting centuries ahead of ours treats language exactly the same.
On the other hand, made up slang/swearing can easily come off as hokey. I read one futuristic series where characters said something was "frosty," instead of cool, and "mag," instead of fabulous. It didn't make the dialogue very smooth.
Firefly did pretty well with all the chinese swearing.
The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
Aliens do their fair share of space snu-snu. I think terms like to bleep and not to bleep with somebody aren't that alien to their culture.
Though this would be the case for all sorts of expressions, not just swearing.The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
Aliens do their fair share of space snu-snu. I think terms like to bleep and not to bleep with somebody aren't that alien to their culture.
So she was trying to communicate don't have sex with Aria?
She was saying don't mess with Aria and used the F word as a slang alternative to express that. Would alien races use the same slang alternative to express that concept? Would we still use it? If we still dropped the f bomb would it still be used in the same contexts that we use it today? I think media in alternate setting can be improved if they take these ideas into account, though as Lady Artiface said it can be done poorly and just come across as hokey.
For the game shadowrun apparently they did it as a form of self censoring at least the rumors say as they were concerned it wouldn't be sold by retailers if a game was loaded with swearing. At the time, it was just cool to me. It felt like culture had moved on and been changed by the shifts in technology and magic. I was like 15 when it came out so I didn't pick up on the censorship angle, if I had maybe I would have seen it differently. But since my initial impression was not hokey to this day I love it. I would love it in MEA can pull off something like that, not just sweat words but as Hanako brought up many other subjects. Aliens likely have quite a few concepts that are so alien we don't have any word in our cultures to reflect it. Similarly it would be interesting if we were expressing some basic concepts from our culture that aliens had no reference point for and were baffled by.
Opinion; not fact, I believe. Cursing at those attempting to help a hurt or needy individual is unlikely to benefit the situation.
It is a normal stress reaction for a lot of people. Profanity doesn't necessarily need to be directed at anyone in particular either. If someone drops the f-bomb after spilling hot coffee on themselves for example, they're cursing the situation or their own clumsiness.
In With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa, E.B. Sledge tells of an incident where he and a buddy nicknamed Snafu were under heavy artillery fire. As the two men sought cover from the bursting shells and shrapnel, Sledge began praying while Snafu belted out a steady stream of obscenities. It may have been two different responses to threat of imminent death, but both served the same function. Both were coping mechanisms.
So she was trying to communicate don't have sex with Aria?
She was saying don't mess with Aria and used the F word as a slang alternative to express that. Would alien races use the same slang alternative to express that concept? Would we still use it? If we still dropped the f bomb would it still be used in the same contexts that we use it today? I think media in alternate setting can be improved if they take these ideas into account, though as Lady Artiface said it can be done poorly and just come across as hokey.
For the game shadowrun apparently they did it as a form of self censoring at least the rumors say as they were concerned it wouldn't be sold by retailers if a game was loaded with swearing. At the time, it was just cool to me. It felt like culture had moved on and been changed by the shifts in technology and magic. I was like 15 when it came out so I didn't pick up on the censorship angle, if I had maybe I would have seen it differently. But since my initial impression was not hokey to this day I love it. I would love it in MEA can pull off something like that, not just sweat words but as Hanako brought up many other subjects. Aliens likely have quite a few concepts that are so alien we don't have any word in our cultures to reflect it. Similarly it would be interesting if we were expressing some basic concepts from our culture that aliens had no reference point for and were baffled by.
No, but she told you very literally and unpoetic that she is no ones female dog, which is also a term that floats around in the environment that she resides in. Prostitutes, strippers, drugdealers and the like. Who are also very present in ME's human and alien societies.
Since humans and aliens in ME participate in the same crimes and differ very little in their hierarchies and politics from our own history, yes, it ain't that strange that there is a common ground for the f-word in space.
Except for elcors, they smell.
It is a normal stress reaction for a lot of people. Profanity doesn't necessarily need to be directed at anyone in particular either. If someone drops the f-bomb after spilling hot coffee on themselves for example, they're cursing the situation or their own clumsiness.
In With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa, E.B. Sledge tells of an incident where he and a buddy nicknamed Snafu were under heavy artillery fire. As the two men sought cover from the bursting shells and shrapnel, Sledge began praying while Snafu belted out a steady stream of obscenities. It may have been two different responses to threat of imminent death, but both served the same function. Both were coping mechanisms.
What one feels is correct may not necessarily make it acceptable.
Acceptable according to whom?
If a person spilled coffee and cursed his or her own clumsiness, or swore in an involuntary reaction to being scalded, what business would anyone else have in what word that person chose to use?
Likewise why should anyone care what words Snafu chose to use in that foxhole?
Acceptable according to whom?
If a person spilled coffee and cursed his or her own clumsiness, or swore in an involuntary reaction to being scalded, what business would anyone else have in what word that person chose to use?
Likewise why should anyone care what words Snafu chose to use in that foxhole?
The more I think about it the less I like our swear words in the setting. Yes, many swear words stand the test of time. But we entered a galactic community which probably has incredibly well established slang at this point. Aria saying don't bleep with Aria just comes across weird, I head canon it as a translator glitch. But while yes Humans are special Humanity#1 and all, I'd think we would be adopting their slang.
Is Aria the only example? I don't really remember Aliens cursing that much. I agree though they should use there own curse words. Human curse words for human characters. Another thing too was Aliens using old time Human sayings. I love how they always followed it up with, "isn't that how the saying goes Shepard?" Too bad Shep couldn't reply with something like, "just a sec I need to get my ancestors up on vid com to find out."
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