German Solider, Not if B-W thinks there's money to be made. A DLC may sell unknown thousands of copies.
1)The default warden is dead2)The warden is 6 origins in which each has 2 genders means that the warden is in 12 different persons,it is not even a chracter3)The warden is 3 different races at the same time4)Patrick weeks don't care about the warden5)The warden is dying for the callingI think this is more than enough to remove the warden from the franchise.
The gender/race thing is not a problem with a import save feature. About The Calling, in DA:II, the HoF was trying to "cure" himself, and by that, all the other wardens, I don't know about Inquisition, I can't play because of the Text Language issue. If he manages to cure himself, or even find how can be done, there it is.
German Soldier, Doesn't matter.. If there is money to be made by returning the warden in a DLC they will do it. Its all about EA/BW making money.
The death of the warden is a players choice that's why the DR and he is alive in DA:A. Even in DA:I the HoF is alive.
To many strawman arguments by those that kill their warden and believe everybody does and then up jumps the warden in DA:I very much alive. Shoot they get bent of out of shape because the kill Leliana in DA:O and then swears she's a ghost or some nonsense. I'm yet to kill Leliana because of my warden defiling the urn. None of my wardens wants a urn of a long dead Shem woman's ashes.
I disagree since the player has the option to build a new warden commander instead of importing his/her dead warden.
For unknown thousands of us we import our warden.
A DLC of the HoF return would give players a option either to buy it and download it or just pass the DLC.. Nobody will twist a player arm forcing him/her to buy it.
4)Patrick weeks don't care about the warden
I don't know who wrote the Trespasser DLC and all the epilogues, but i'm pretty sure that Gaider wasn't the lead writer anymore when it came out, I could be wrong so if someone can correct me, be my guest.
So what I want to tell by this, is that if they don't care about the HoF anymore so why they keep mentionning him ? Because if your world state has a HoF alive and romancing Leliana and she is divine, there's a slide where they tell that he/she is still alive and that the 2 lovers keep seeing each others, and since it's been 2 years between the battle against Corypheus and the events of Trespasser, we can assume that the HoF has finished his/her quest for the Calling or failed to find something about it
So at this point, I think that the best they can do is to kill him/her offscreen for good 
4)Patrick weeks don't care about the warden
As I said before, I suspect that every writer involved in the series's development never cared much about the Warden: that character's role was too be the lead of the archetypal fantasy tale that would introduces audiences to Thedas. Basically, the Warden is Dragon Age's Ned Stark... Except Ned was unambiguously killed: no need to send the Lord of Winterfell on a long quest beyond the limits of the known world.
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So what I want to tell by this, is that if they don't care about the HoF anymore so why they keep mentionning him ?
Two reasons:
Nixou, I could have easily wrote both the warden and Leliana out with a simple ending in DA:O never to be seen again and still please thousands.
The warden and Leliana married in Denerim and shortly after disappeared. Some believe the couple went to Antiva while others say they went to Jader to start a new life.
The Warden Commander in DA:A would be a new character..
They don't know how to definitely resolve the surviving HoF's story, but they still need to justify the character not being involved in the conflict du jour, so they make up reasons which in turn become new unresolved plot threads.
Better kill the character offscreen for good then.
Better kill the character offscreen for good then.
Or on screen.
No need to make a full "The Warden's Saga continue" episode or DLC: just add in the next Wardeny episode (that is: Not DA4) a couple of hours when the Warden is playable and conclude it with an unambiguous cutscene depicting the character's downfall.
Maybe I'm not as blood thirsty as some.. I would prefer he/she stays alive, marries and disappears into another country. A good clean ending for the living HoF.
I still think a DLC of the warden and Leliana traveling together would have been better then the "Darkspawn Chronicles" of which I declined to download. I can barely stomach Witch Hunt since the CE is not portrayed as the HoF even though the CE was imported from DA:O and yet the CE is portrayed as the HoF in DA:A. Oh well just another BW writer flub..
1)The default warden is dead2)The warden is 6 origins in which each has 2 genders means that the warden is in 12 different persons,it is not even a chracter3)The warden is 3 different races at the same time4)Patrick weeks don't care about the warden5)The warden is dying for the callingI think this is more than enough to remove the warden from the franchise.
In short the warden is a logistical nightmare right?
German Soldier, Doesn't matter.. If there is money to be made by returning the warden in a DLC they will do it. Its all about EA/BW making money.
The death of the warden is a players choice that's why the DR and he is alive in DA:A. Even in DA:I the HoF is alive.
This is silly because the warden may as well remain alive in DAA no matter what(even after the US), that is just fanservice just as those letters in DAI are fanservice but the character doesn't exist anymore for the player.
As I said before, I suspect that every writer involved in the series's development never cared much about the Warden: that character's role was too be the lead of the archetypal fantasy tale that would introduces audiences to Thedas. Basically, the Warden is Dragon Age's Ned Stark... Except Ned was unambiguously killed: no need to send the Lord of Winterfell on a long quest beyond the limits of the known world.
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Two reasons:
- Fanservice
- They don't know how to definitely resolve the surviving HoF's story, but they still need to justify the character not being involved in the conflict du jour, so they make up reasons which in turn become new unresolved plot threads.
Agree 100%
The warden was just a blank state like a book to introduce the player to Thedas, to me it was not even a character but just an Avatar to introduce me to the franchise,if others players were more invested than it is their own business i suppose.
I don't know who wrote the Trespasser DLC and all the epilogues, but i'm pretty sure that Gaider wasn't the lead writer anymore when it came out, I could be wrong so if someone can correct me, be my guest.
So what I want to tell by this, is that if they don't care about the HoF anymore so why they keep mentionning him ? Because if your world state has a HoF alive and romancing Leliana and she is divine, there's a slide where they tell that he/she is still alive and that the 2 lovers keep seeing each others, and since it's been 2 years between the battle against Corypheus and the events of Trespasser, we can assume that the HoF has finished his/her quest for the Calling or failed to find something about it
So at this point, I think that the best they can do is to kill him/her offscreen for good
It is not about the warden is about Leliana,the new lead writer really like her and Solas.
If DA4 is set in Tevinter i imagine Leliana could play a role as divine and discuss doctrine with the black divine.
We'll never forget our first hero of Thedas, even if Bioware doesn't have any plans.
I still believe they can produce shorter spinoff games that don't have to confuse the Dragon Keep world states. For now, let's keep dreaming.
Recently, I thought of a story where the Grey Warden returns from his/her search (results undisclosed) with Nathaniel, Oghren, and Dog in tow. They stop over at Orlais, reclaim Vigilance from some dead raiders (Maldine), and encounter Admiral Isabela, Varric, and Bethany Hawke. The Warden (being an Amell) offers to take care of Bethany until Hawke returns from Weisshaupt. The plan is to keep their stay Orlais very brief and sail back to Ferelden, until they end up driving off a flight of high dragons outside of Val Royeaux. This new accomplishment forces them to stay longer to attend a royal banquet in their honor. They catch up on Inquisiton's successes but get drawn to the aftermath of 'Trespasser'.
Maybe I'm not as blood thirsty as some.. I would prefer he/she stays alive, marries and disappears into another country. A good clean ending for the living HoF.
Sooner or later the Calling will tingle in her/his head, so unless they give a real solution to the quest of the Calling that the HoF pursue during Inquisition, it's unlikely that the character will have a happy ending unfortunately
Sooner or later the Calling will tingle in her/his head, so unless they give a real solution to the quest of the Calling that the HoF pursue during Inquisition, it's unlikely that the character will have a happy ending unfortunately
He / aka I
Did go after Morrigan in Witch Hunt.
Never heared again 
As far as I'm concerned, anybody who can reject the dark ritual and still come back to life after slaying an archdemon is either a superhero or a god/demigod. So, the Hero of Ferelden is effectively invincible. I laugh at the thought of him/her dying.
I don't remember where I read this (maybe the old bioware forum) but it was stated that the reason behind this is that the game couldn't recognize 2 different heroes in the same world state or something like this.
In short, a warden that did the US and an orlesian warden in Awakening couldn't be generated in the same world state 
But for the players on PC there's a solution using the console, there's a video about it in youtube 
Apo, In DA:I the HoF is on a quest in order to find the cure for the calling..Now if the HoF finds that cure then the HoF could return in a future DA game.
That return or lack of return is completely up to BW's writers whims.
My thoughts.
I would rather see a DLC then a force return since many doesn't like the idea. If you want your HoF to return then simply buy the DLC and if one doesn't no harm no foul. Everybody wins. BW makes money in the process.
Interesting. I thought it was just a careless oversight.I don't remember where I read this (maybe the old bioware forum) but it was stated that the reason behind this is that the game couldn't recognize 2 different heroes in the same world state or something like this.
In short, a warden that did the US and an orlesian warden in Awakening couldn't be generated in the same world state
But for the players on PC there's a solution using the console, there's a video about it in youtube
Here's the video on how to have the HoF dead and the orlesian warden commander : https://www.youtube....h?v=bbv80vJrLwA
Apo, In DA:I the HoF is on a quest in order to find the cure for the calling..Now if the HoF finds that cure then the HoF could return in a future DA game.
That return or lack of return is completely up to BW's writers whims.
My thoughts.
I would rather see a DLC then a force return since many doesn't like the idea. If you want your HoF to return then simply buy the DLC and if one doesn't no harm no foul. Everybody wins. BW makes money in the process.
I'm really not against a return of the HoF, though it seems that the devs don't care anymore, and we have no answer about the search of the calling, was it a success or no ?
Nope, too many variables as someone already said, and the **** storm that voicing the warden would create in the community....oh god can you imagine? Whichever actor you chose to people would be sore about it.
Morgan Freeman
Morgan Freeman
As if the Warden wasn't enough of a Mary Sue already, you want him to be voiced by God?
As if the Warden wasn't enough of a Mary Sue already, you want him to be voiced by God?
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