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What is the best dagger so far ?


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hi, i was wondering what is the best dagger so far within all the game's content, including dlc.

 

also, i'm thorn between the stone stalker blade (which has more base damage, but no grip slot) and coiled strike (which got less base damage, but can have more critical damage due to having a grip slot) for my dw rogue assassin.

 

 



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Stone stalker blade. It does 25 more damage max than coiled strike, which is a lot for any weapon but even better for daggers. The extra damage is compounded by the speed at which daggers attack, and your main hand base damage will determine the strength of your offensive skills. They're only a little behind in secondary stats, and you can still stack a lot of attack and critical chance/damage on them. Put fade touched bloodstone (7.5% more damage per enemy within 8 meters) on your main hand stone stalker blade and see your dps skyrocket.

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ok thanks  ;)


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btw while i'm here where can i get a +10% damage for every ennemy within 10 meter masterwork ? also if it exist where can i get it ?



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btw while i'm here where can i get a +10% damage for every ennemy within 10 meter masterwork ? also if it exist where can i get it ?

I don't believe there is a material like that, though I only double-checked the metals. The closest I could find was Fade-Touched Pyrophite, which can be found by mining Pyrophite nodes in the Emerald Graves. It does 7.5% bonus damage for every enemy within 8 meters.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ls#Masterwork_3



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hi, i was wondering what is the best dagger so far within all the game's content, including dlc.

 

also, i'm thorn between the stone stalker blade (which has more base damage, but no grip slot) and coiled strike (which got less base damage, but can have more critical damage due to having a grip slot) for my dw rogue assassin.

As for a DW assassin, I strongly recommend Bosun's Blade (a lv12 unique) for your offhand. +500% damage bonus from back is pretty insane. Use it to a even greater extent by putting on a deepstalker sigil as well.


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Shame stone stalker isnt duel blade prefer the animations



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As for a DW assassin, I strongly recommend Bosun's Blade (a lv12 unique) for your offhand. +500% damage bonus from back is pretty insane. Use it to a even greater extent by putting on a deepstalker sigil as well.

 

Bosun's Blade is a bloody beast.



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Shame stone stalker isnt duel blade prefer the animations

I'm under the impression dual blades have lower base dmg for the same level. So that means lower ability dmg.

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I'm under the impression dual blades have lower base dmg for the same level. So that means lower ability dmg.

 

That appears to be true, but sometimes only by a very narrow margin.

 

It's kind of hard to compare -- I couldn't find two daggers of the same level and rarity. It's not really fair to compare a dual-blade common dagger to a rare (blue) single-blade of the same level. Also, the lowest level dual-blade is level 12, which means you don't even get them until mid game or at least late early game.

 

So I sampled a couple of common pairs that are close in level and took their lowest base damage and divided by their level to get an average. If SB is always better than DB level for level, then comparing averages should show SB is always higher than DB, even though they are not exactly the same level.

 

Tevinter Dagger (SB) Level 11, lowest base damage 58, average is 5.27

Crow Blade (DB) Level 12, lowest base damage 62, average is 5.16

 

Carta Claw (SB) Level 20, lowest base damage 99, average is 4.95

Whirling Deaths (DB) Level 19, lowest base damage 70, average is 3.68

 

I guess because DB is AoE they had to give it a bit of a discount in base damage, otherwise it would be too OP level for level.

 

But none of the above really matters if you have one dagger, of either type, that clearly has a higher base damage over all the rest at hand. You are not going to take an SB Hook Blade at 65 when you could have a DB Knightslayer at 74.


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was wondering if i put a fade-touched bloodstone masterwork on one dagger and a fade-touched pyrophite in the other, would i get a total of +15% bonus damage as the effect is not from the same fade-touched material ?

 

edit : also which hand in inventory is the "Main hand" and which is the "Off-Hand"



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was wondering if i put a fade-touched bloodstone masterwork on one dagger and a fade-touched pyrophite in the other, would i get a total of +15% bonus damage as the effect is not from the same fade-touched material ?
 
edit : also which hand in inventory is the "Main hand" and which is the "Off-Hand"

Yes, as long as they are different effects, they stack. Same applies if they are exactly the same FT mat, but different effects, like +5 guard on hit and 10% Chain Lightning at 100%, both FT Silverite.

Main is always the right, I believe. You can verify in the Attributes screen. Just unequip one of the hands and see which number goes lower.

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so i could get 15% even though its the same effect, of the same tier but with 2 different material =P sweet =) 

 

although i think what i'll do is => hidden blade on hit 5 time on one dagger, hidden blade on hit 4 time on the other and then the 7,5% of bonus damage on armor. although i'm wondering if i should put a hidden on hit 3 time on armor =S



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so i could get 15% even though its the same effect, of the same tier but with 2 different material =P sweet =)

Sorry, I should have just said NO.

I said yes, as long as they are different effects. Those are the same effects, so doesn't stack. Thought tbh I never tried that exact combination. But two Silverite +5 guard on hit definitely do not stack.



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oh damn... it was too sweet to be true xD, i knew something tasted of despair in this xD

 

 

nah but now i wonder what is better damage wise on a dw rogue assassin =S using 3 different effect of hidden blade on hit or 2 of them + the bloodstone masterwork 



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oh damn... it was too sweet to be true xD, i knew something tasted of despair in this xD

 

 

nah but now i wonder what is better damage wise on a dw rogue assassin =S using 3 different effect of hidden blade on hit or 2 of them + the bloodstone masterwork 

 

Just two Hidden Blade procs is overkill, but go for it. Should make a good video.



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no... not 2... noooo, i was more talking about all 3 of them xD



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Bosun's Blade is a bloody beast.

 

Wow- is all I can say about this dagger. First run through I completely ignored it. But added it to my DW Assassin along with a crafted Stonestalker blade. The damage output- if positioned on the side or behind an enemy is astounding. I threw throwing blades at some bad guy and the hits in order were 9k, 10k, 12k. Had a Shadow Strike on the Highland Ravager that was 34k (no offensive tonic). It's just nuts. Combine this with the Hidden Blades toggle that hits all tightly bunched enemies- it's really incredible.