The thing that I can't make me understand is why my character would romance Cullen?
They have nothing in common, why my character will start to flirt with him?
Maybe just because he looks like the prince Charming
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Why the elfs are so damn anorexics!?
If Cullen sleep with my character it is going to look like he fucked an under-age!
Midnightwolf,In my DA:O games its always a Elf so, what I said was true. 
I want to play the damn game but I can't make a beautiful human sorceress, so I found the slider of a beautiful elf that I would like to play
The problem is I dont think an elf relates good to being the leader of the Inquisition
I don't like chantry stuff so I'm not going to have problem with this matter, but in other areas she probably looks weird.
I want to romance Cullen and I don't like a bit about a human with an elf, specially in the size...
Are the elf not a "crazy" race to use?
I don't mind spoiler so if you can use arguments about if they are better than humans (In tresspasser surely you feel more involved) use it ♥
The second half of the game heavily revolves around revelations about elven history and lore.
Half of the locations you visit are "elfy" areas. You see a lot of the Dales, including the Exalted Plains, the Emerald Graves, Emprise du Lion, Halamshiral, and the Arbor Wilds. You can also visit no less than two elven ruins that yield fantastic information about elven history and lore.
Heck, the finale mostly revolves around more elf locations and revelations, and the "finale" DLC Trespasser (which brings closure to the whole DAI game) has some pretty game-changing revelations about elves' history, place, and future in Thedas.
But sure, by all means, ignore the elf option.
The thing that I can't make me understand is why my character would romance Cullen?
They have nothing in common, why my character will start to flirt with him?
Maybe just because he looks like the prince Charming
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Why the elfs are so damn anorexics!?
If Cullen sleep with my character it is going to look like he fucked an under-age!
It would be helpful to know more about your plans regarding her personality and backstory.
As for the elven body-style, I'm not a fan of it either. I would've preferred the elven body-style from DA:O or DA2 over the DA:I version, even though the faces look so much better in DA:I.
If you think Cullen/f!Lavellan is bad, imagine IB/f!Lavellan....
The thing that I can't make me understand is why my character would romance Cullen?
They have nothing in common, why my character will start to flirt with him?
Maybe just because he looks like the prince Charming
I thought the same thing the first time I played (since, as you can tell by my username and picture, I'm pretty invested in "elfy" stuff), but you'll find that his personality is very agreeable. He's largely tackled his issues from the previous two games, and by this game he's almost unfailingly kind, polite, honest, sweet, open-minded, helpful, considerate, etc. (He's almost too perfect. 
)
There are also a few points in the game (depending on your choices) where you and he can fight side-by-side, and since you run the Inquisition but he leads your armies, at times it can feel like you two are equal partners working toward a common goal, rather than you're the player character and he's your underling.
The very first time I played, my pro-Dalish Elven Inquisitor initially thought, "Hiss! Templar! Get away from me!" (it helps that I headcanon that she was a city elf whose parents fled to the Dalish when she came into her magic, and they were chased and her father was killed by Templars on the way), but he slowly grew on her. It helps that, as an Elf, she doesn't care for human politics or power-grabbing, or how fake, insincere, and superficial Orlesian society is (Orlais is the Capitol from Hunger Games, and at times it felt like my gal was a District 12 newcomer), and Cullen expressing disgust for such things too, in favor of an honest day's work and a desire to help people for its own sake, appealed to her.
There are also some instances where he's good to elves specifically. If you wander around Haven, you can come across a human soldier apologizing to an elven scout, and he'll mention how Commander Cullen chewed him out for calling her... you know... and made him apologize. You'll also encounter a war table mission where your clan is attacked by bandits (it's the second "personal" war table mission, after "Contact Clan Lavellan"), and you can have Cullen send his soldiers to defend them. It's such a little thing, but the fact that Cullen, a human Templar, successfully defended your friends and family (Dalish elves) from being killed off, can feel like a big deal. I didn't expect it to happen, but my Elven Inquisitor's regard for him shot up 50% just from that alone.
There are also a few instances in the romance where you can bring up the "elf" issue, and his answers alone can melt hearts.
If my gal hadn't fallen for Solas first, she would have gone for Cullen just based on his good moral character, and general acceptance and open-mindedness this game.
In fact, the two wound up having so much chemistry that I actually did start a new playthrough with the same character, and romanced Cullen that time. 
So yeah. There's common ground if you're willing to find it. 
The second half of the game heavily revolves around revelations about elven history and lore.
Half of the locations you visit are "elfy" areas. You see a lot of the Dales, including the Exalted Plains, the Emerald Graves, Emprise du Lion, Halamshiral, and the Arbor Wilds. You can also visit no less than two elven ruins that yield fantastic information about elven history and lore.
Heck, the finale mostly revolves around more elf locations and revelations, and the "finale" DLC Trespasser (which brings closure to the whole DAI game) has some pretty game-changing revelations about elves' history, place, and future in Thedas.
But sure, by all means, ignore the elf option.
Just because the game deals with elf lore doesn't mean it's relevant to an elf Inquisitor. For one thing, the dialogue options are the same as a human in most cases, which actually breaks immersion for an elf playthrough. Also, there are few opportunities to have your elf express any kind of reaction to these revelations, especially if you don't romance Solas.
Trespasser's revelations, if true, have implications for all of the world's history, not just the elves.
Just because the game deals with elf lore doesn't mean it's relevant to an elf Inquisitor. For one thing, the dialogue options are the same as a human in most cases, which actually breaks immersion for an elf playthrough. Also, there are few opportunities to have your elf express any kind of reaction to these revelations, especially if you don't romance Solas.
Trespasser's revelations, if true, have implications for all of the world's history, not just the elves.
Speak for yourself.
I don't need dialogue options to always have an an elf tag on them to feel invested in my elven character.
And you know what? Traipsing through Dales territory (especially ones steeped in elven history like the Emerald Graves and Exalted Plains) and elven ruins feels different playing an elf than a human. Learning about elven history and lore feels more personal and relevant when you're playing an elf, since it's your people's history and heritage, than it does as a human, dwarf, or vashoth. I don't care what you or anyone says.
You didn't feel invested? All right. More's the pity for you, but that doesn't mean it happens to everyone.
Cullen is a drug addicted human fanatic who with his Meredith slaughter innocents in Kirkwall Circle....worst choice for any non-human, anti-chantry character and especially mage, mage who romance a templar is a weird at least
A mage is the only person I'd romance Cullen with. Anything else would be boring.
Speak for yourself.
I don't need dialogue options to always have an an elf tag on them to feel invested in my elven character.
And you know what? Traipsing through Dales territory (especially ones steeped in elven history like the Emerald Graves and Exalted Plains) and elven ruins feels different playing an elf than a human. Learning about elven history and lore feels more personal and relevant when you're playing an elf, since it's your people's history and heritage, than it does as a human, dwarf, or vashoth. I don't care what you or anyone says.
You didn't feel invested? All right. More's the pity for you, but that doesn't mean it happens to everyone.
My Dalish female mage felt invested, sure. She was also mad that humans controlled it. But my male human mage felt invested too, in that he was exploring something that was mostly unknown. My elf was exploring that which was lost to her.
Just saying the elfy places can be relevant to the humans as well.
What? No one likes dwarven PCs?
I hope DA 4 is centered around the Titans and the foundation of the first dwarven Thaigs.
Bunch of heretics.
I would like to see more dwarven lore in general in DA4. I feel that everything regarding the dwarves was pretty much ignored from DA:O to Descent.
Elves will always be my favorite, but there's already been a ton of lore for them, as well as humans. Hell, even the Qunari have more lore than the dwarves, iirc.
My Dalish female mage felt invested, sure. She was also mad that humans controlled it. But my male human mage felt invested too, in that he was exploring something that was mostly unknown. My elf was exploring that which was lost to her.
Just saying the elfy places can be relevant to the humans as well.
All right, it can be relevant to humans as well... just not in the same way.
For humans, it's academically interesting. "Ooh, cool, that happened!" For elves, it's personally interesting. "Wow... that happened to my people/ancestors." If you're roleplaying at all, your elven character is simply not going to react the same way as your human, dwarf, or Qunari character.
I wouldn't expect my elven character to react the same way to the Iron Bull's explanations of Qunari culture as my Vashoth, any more than I would expect my dwarven character to react to the mages' plight the same way as my mage Inquisitors. There's just a level of personal investment that comes with being part of the group you're learning about, that simply won't be present with a character learning the same information but being from outside the group.
I'm personally pretty invested in "elfy" stuff, so I like playing an elf while learning about this stuff, so my gal can feel the full weight of, "This happened to my people," not a casual, "Oh cool, that happened to those people."
Female elves are beautiful in this game.
To me the way the story goes it seems better suited for an elf as the Inquisitor. Especially when you get into Trespasser.
Cullen is good romance for elf, I tried that. Bull is great also.
I would like to see more dwarven lore in general in DA4. I feel that everything regarding the dwarves was pretty much ignored from DA:O to Descent.
Elves will always be my favorite, but there's already been a ton of lore for them, as well as humans. Hell, even the Qunari have more lore than the dwarves, iirc.
It would be cool to learn more about the great dwarven underground empire, the Titans and their fight against Mythal.
Dwarven lore is as rich as elven, Qunari, human and any other.
Plus, dwarven ladies are the cutest!
It would be cool to learn more about the great dwarven underground empire, the Titans and their fight against Mythal.
Dwarven lore is as rich as elven, Qunari, human and any other.
Plus, dwarven ladies are the cutest!
Hear, hear!
My boyfriend adores dwarves the most of any fantasy race. One of the reasons he hasn't gotten as invested in the DA universe as I have is that the dwarves haven't gotten the focus they deserve. (He's convinced the Dwarf Noble Origin is the best origin in DAO though, so at least that makes him happy.)
I'll admit I like dwarves, but I personally don't feel invested enough in them to spend a whole game looking through a dwarf's POV when there's no enough "dwarf" stuff in the game to balance it out. (I feel very guilty saying it, but it's true.)
I hope they get the screentime they deserve, and that we learn more about them, see their history and lore expanded, and finally get to see freaking Kal-Sharok! I can only take so many tours of the Deep Roads and abandoned Thaigs before it gets repetitive. xP
I'm also waiting impatiently for a dwarf romance. Apart from Oghren, there's not a single dwarf ally (Sigrun, Varric, Harding) that I wouldn't romance if given the chance. It's time for BioWare to give us that chance.
It would be cool to learn more about the great dwarven underground empire, the Titans and their fight against Mythal.
Dwarven lore is as rich as elven, Qunari, human and any other.
Plus, dwarven ladies are the cutest!
I don't remember there being a fight against Mythal mentioned, though I may have missed it. Could you provide a link?
Yeah, it is, it's just that you have to dig for a lot of it. And fight through all types of Deep Roads creatures.
To each their own, but I prefer the elves.
Playing as a dwarf is okay, I prefer to explore their cities, be they ruins or still inhabit. Love their grand architecture.
I don't remember there being a fight against Mythal mentioned, though I may have missed it. Could you provide a link?
Yeah, it is, it's just that you have to dig for a lot of it. And fight through all types of Deep Roads creatures.
To each their own, but I prefer the elves.
Sure! Although I'm not sure if Bioware confirms if it's canon lore or just a fan interpretation of something that was in the codexes of DA:I (Trespasser, I think, to be more specific) and that could be viewed as a fight between Mythal and a Titan in the time of Arlathan.
Here's the link
All right, it can be relevant to humans as well... just not in the same way.
For humans, it's academically interesting. "Ooh, cool, that happened!" For elves, it's personally interesting. "Wow... that happened to my people/ancestors." If you're roleplaying at all, your elven character is simply not going to react the same way as your human, dwarf, or Qunari character.
Fair enough.
Sure! Although I'm not sure if Bioware confirms if it's canon lore or just a fan interpretation of something that was in the codexes of DA:I (Trespasser, I think, to be more specific) and that could be viewed as a fight between Mythal and a Titan in the time of Arlathan.
Here's the link
Hmm..... interesting, but I don't think it necessarily means that Mythal fought the dwarves as a whole. It mentions the Evanuris, which would be Elgar'nan & Co., and depicts a Titan being killed. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an isolated incident, if not simply a show of power for both the underclass elves and the dwarves.
Anyway, talk like that would be best kept to PMs or the thread you linked, so I'll stop talking about it now.
Female elves are beautiful in this game.
To me the way the story goes it seems better suited for an elf as the Inquisitor. Especially when you get into Trespasser.
Cullen is good romance for elf, I tried that. Bull is great also.
But the thing I don't like about an elf Inquisitor in Trespasser is that they
1. Human. Self-evident.
2. Mage. Multiple dialogue options only available to a mage (as well as Tranquility judgments). Better relevance to the mage/templar storyline. Better clash with Corypheus, mage vs. mage. Makes more sense having the anchor.
3. Male. The armors. The dance with Florienne. The poses while on the throne are masculine, as are many other cutscene animations.
Female Elf seems the best choice to me. Game gets very very elfy later on and I don't like playing any other race whilst making massive choices in regards to Elves. Doesn't feel right. Female gets the most plot centric romance, Solas.
Not sure what male human gets other than a male-ish dance animation in one scene.
Anyway, can't really help on the Cullan front, I've hated the guy since Origins.
I don't see the case for human. A lot of the story is about people projecting stuff onto the Inquisitor that turns out not to be relevant or even true. Sure, the Inquisition makes more sense with an Andrastian human. But... so what? The Inquisition doesn't have to make sense. There's no divine plan. The Inquisitor is the Inquisitor because of chance, nothing more.
As for mage, I'm not quite sure where you're going with that. The mage gets more options, yep. A mage should get those options, right? Are there options non-mages should have that they don't have?
Isn't this just standard-issue Bio laziness? Or conservation of resources, or whatever you'd like to call it.
The game was literally created with a human protagonist in mind. The addition of alternate race choices did not come until the game was delayed the first time. Almost every storyline and interaction is geared toward humans, even the Temple of This Mythal part.
The Herald plot may have made at least some sense with a city elf, but not a Dalish elf. It makes no sense for people to call an elfy elf the Herald of Andraste, especially if the elf vocally rejects Andraste. I understand that many will just use the elf as a sign of Andraste's much hoped for return, but that doesn't justify the level of popularity the title gained. BioWare should have had people call the player character the Survivor, as Alexius did during the first meeting.
The human, who even as a mage is of noble birth, is best suited to deal with other nobles. The human is a more inspiring leader than an elf, which many prejudice people in Thedas have problems with. And most of the problems you deal with in Inquisition are human problems.
I don't know if there are options that warriors or rogues should have that they don't. My only point is that mages have more content. So they are the better fit to the storyline.
BioWare certainly is lazy. Call it whatever you want, the fact is that the finished product best suits a male human mage.
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