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The Best Inquisitor: A Female Elf?


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CosmicGnosis

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Of all the possible Inquisitors, a female elf seems to be the most appropriate for the story. This is because elves are truly at the center of everything that happens in Inquisition; their lore is everywhere. Which is actually an interesting twist. The first half of the game seems very human-centric, but when all the big revelations start coming, which continue into the DLC, the elves are suddenly at the center of it all. There is also the issue of romance: Solas is awesome. His romance is my personal favorite because it ties directly into the main story, kind of like Morrigan's romance in Origins. It's even better if the Inquisitor is a mage.

 

With all the elven lore, and the parallels to Inquisitor Ameridan, and a potential romance with Fen'Harel himself, a female elven mage just seems to make way too much sense.  

 

So I'm curious about everyone's thoughts on this. Yes, I know the Inquisitor can be anyone you want him/her to be, but in regards to the "best story", I think the female elven mage makes the most sense. 


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I don't really have a lot to say, other than I agree with everything you just posted!


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At the end it's good to have a female elf for the Solas stuff...but at the start you run into the problem that the elf has less reason to be there than any other choice, even the dwarf who at least has a market for lyrium to exploit.  



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At the end it's good to have a female elf for the Solas stuff...but at the start you run into the problem that the elf has less reason to be there than any other choice, even the dwarf who at least has a market for lyrium to exploit.  

 

The Elf has reason to be there. They are sent as a spy because your keeper knows something will happen that will "affect all elves". She was right.

 

Kinda makes me think she's an agent of Fen'Harel.


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I've played an Andrastian human rogue who romanced Cullen, a Qunari mage (abandoned that playthrough, wasn't feeling it), and a Dalish mage who romanced Solas. My Dalish mage is my canon. I love my canon Inquisitor best for a lot of reasons, not least because it was so immediate, so raw and so personal playing a woman loyal to the Dalish religion and culture. I can see this experience going a number of ways...for her, her faith was devastated (and transformed...but devastated). After almost 14 years of playing Western style RPGs, my Lavellan has been the most intense role play experience to date. It was the best story...for me, at any rate.  


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How about no?
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I think my male elf who was enemies with Solas was pretty legit too. Still have all the same elf related stuff but instead of a possible romance there's a rivalry and a "so you think you alone know what's best for our people? All of this is YOUR fault!"


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I think it largely boils down to personal taste - my elf mage romancing Solas may indeed be more tied into the plot in some ways than my dwarf who romanced Blackwall, but I still enjoyed playing my 'canon' dwarf the most of all my Inquisitors so far. For me, being a fish out of water in regards to the human and elven stuff was more fun.

 

However, if you're definition of 'best' is purely 'most tied into the central plot' then yes, I think you're right.


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Playing an elf can be frustrating because the dialogue options are limited and designed to cover four races but I prefer my Lavallan Inquisitor because I find her headspace the most interesting. Jenner Trevelyan is a coddled child free from her over bearing parents for the first time, Nela Cadash is in it for the power and lots and lots of money and Seranni Lavellan is trapped by her own sense of duty. 

 

As a playthrough it's a bit lonely, no one truly gets or even likes your Dalish ways and the later revelations are like someone kicking you repeatedly while you're already on the ground but in a weird way I find it more rewarding than the other two. 



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You'd think so from the number of times the fans of female elves say it, but no. It is absolutely not true. Your choices are not superior to other people's choices. 


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Depends on personal taste. If you want to make a main character that fits into the story, then maybe a female elven mage makes most sense, but I personally like to play an anti-hero, the most unlikely hero. So for my personal taste it would make no sense to play a female elven mage who romances Solas.


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Elf stuff barely comes up before the Arbor Wilds. There is Solas' precious Orb but apart from that there's not much. Before the wilds it's almost entirely human politics and Andrastianism. The Inquisitor doesn't spend most of the game being called the Herald of Mythal, y'know.

 

You'd think so from the number of times the fans of female elves say it, but no. It is absolutely not true. Your choices are not superior to other people's choices. 

Yes, the more I see it the more annoyed by it I get.


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Elf stuff barely comes up before the Arbor Wilds. There is Solas' precious Orb but apart from that there's not much. Before the wilds it's almost entirely human politics and Andrastianism. The Inquisitor doesn't spend most of the game being called the Herald of Mythal, y'know.
 

Yes, the more I see it the more annoyed by it I get.


It's as bad as the Cousland fans and pro-Mage, anti-Chantry/Templar psychopath Andersmancers. And I say this as one of those Cousland fans.
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I prefer a Elven female mage over a human or any other race for DA:I simply because I favor Elves as my PC. Beside that my female Elves turns out prettier then my human females the only exception being in DA:2.   Shelly was the best I ever created.

 

To the point..We all have our favorite PC and nothing will change our thoughts since we feel our character works best for us.



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You'd think so from the number of times the fans of female elves say it, but no. It is absolutely not true. Your choices are not superior to other people's choices. 

 

/thread


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It's as bad as the Cousland fans and pro-Mage, anti-Chantry/Templar psychopath Andersmancers. And I say this as one of those Cousland fans.

Im beginning to think it's caused by the romance.

 

Couslands got to be a pretty princes who married the prince, and were oh so proud of that. They needed to boast. Andersmancers had their boyfriend blow up a church and needed a way to excuse and justify it.

 

Solasmancers.......I don't even need to explain with this one do I?



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It's as bad as the Cousland fans and pro-Mage, anti-Chantry/Templar psychopath Andersmancers. And I say this as one of those Cousland fans.

LOL

 

I guess that leaves the anti-Chantry/Templar psychopath Andersmancer label for me. Works for me!

 

Thing is, there's nothing wrong with having a preference. We all do. Folks don't start running into trouble until they start thinking that their preferences are somehow more right than other people's. And when that happens, it's like running off a cliff. Everything they say after that is categorically wrong.


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My Inquisitor is the best. Duh.


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I think it largely boils down to personal taste - my elf mage romancing Solas may indeed be more tied into the plot in some ways than my dwarf who romanced Blackwall, but I still enjoyed playing my 'canon' dwarf the most of all my Inquisitors so far. For me, being a fish out of water in regards to the human and elven stuff was more fun.
 
However, if you're definition of 'best' is purely 'most tied into the central plot' then yes, I think you're right.


All of this. 'Best' is subjective. I like playing dwarven Inquisitors precisely because they're not involved in the whole elves versus humans hoopla, and their stake in the lyrium trade gives them slightly more objectivity than, say, a mage from the Circle or an elf who has spent their entire life skirting Templar scrutiny.

Have fun with whatever you choose and don't worry about what other people are doing. :P
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LOL
 
I guess that leaves the anti-Chantry/Templar psychopath Andersmancer label for me. Works for me!
 
Thing is, there's nothing wrong with having a preference. We all do. Folks don't start running into trouble until they start thinking that their preferences are somehow more right than other people's. And when that happens, it's like running off a cliff. Everything they say after that is categorically wrong.


There's nothing wrong with having a preference and therin lies the problem. Some people are so hung up with identifying with certain groups that they completely ignore any alternatives. That, because they grew up in an impoverished neighborhood and deal with racism, people can't enjoy playing as human nobility.

All of the romances, all of the backgrounds, and all of the choices made and opinions held bring something to the table and it's a damn shame if you can't see that.


Except for the Dalish. **** them.
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If Obama come to me tonight and say:You need to play as a female elf in DAI!!.......I think I'd say:No,thanks! You can only get satisfaction from the race and gender you WANT TO play...If female elf is really the best,I'd still stick with my male Qunari inquisitor,because that's what I want.



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Humans never turn out good for me..My last game of DA:O was Cousland- **** him and the mule he rode in on never again. The story made no sense.

 

JJ,I would never use a Qunari because I don't like them at all  but,I'll defend your right to use 'em.

 

To bad the elf haters won't allow that for those of us that favors a Elves.



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In all due respect, this game was meant to be played from each gamer's personal canons. All DA titles interwoven so that the setting follows what each person feels as their preferred outcomes.

 

Basically, asking which race is better from the narrative perspective is completely pointless.

 

 

With that said, however, if you are looking for which Inquisitor Bio Ware will choose for their vanilla canon, then the most likely option will be the human one.

 

Originally, DAI was going to repeat DA2 with a human only protagonist but they later changed that because the public demanded multi-racial protagonists and they had to set their record straight after the ME3 ending.

 

This is why DAI doesn't have origin stories, they already made the first half of the game with a human only Inquisitor in mind and that's why all other races have little development until you move to Skyhold.

 

That's also why only the human Inquisitor has a major role in the Conclave whereas the others are either spies or mercenaries, they were retconned to be there and hence their presence feels more out of place.

 

To be more specific, Travelyan is a noble whose family has strong ties to the Chantry and the Templars and he/she was there either on their behalf or, if he/she is a mage, on behalf of the Mage Rebellion. Regardless if you play as a warrior/rogue or a mage, that backstory fits like a glove to explain how he/she got to the point of interfering with Justinia's sacrifice.

 

By contrast, Adaar was hired for Chantry security despite Andrastians having huge mistrust and bigotry towards Qunari while Cadash and Lavellan somehow infiltrated a place almost exclusively filled with humans while wearing a huge tattoo on their faces screaming "I AM A SPY!".

 

I get that Lavellan has access to a lot more lore later in the game given how the story shifts from mage-templar conflict to ancient Elven lore and that her romance with Solas opens up a lot of dialogues from the man behind the scenes which would be otherwise unavaiable but she falls out of place when placed in the role of Inquisitor.

 

Another reason for choosing Travelyan over Lavellan in how the game excessively punishes the later and favors the former.

 

Regardless if you play as pro-mage, pro-templar, faithful or atheist, Travelyan will wind up succeding in what he/she tries to accomplish while coming out better from each situation he/she encounters. Not just that, he/she embodies the modern world of humans, for good or bad, clashing against ancient mages who seek to restore forgotten glory at the expense of everyone who lives in the present.

 

Regardless if you play as pro-mage, pro-templar, faithful or atheist, female Lavellan keeps getting kicked in the guts by everything around her, potentially ending up as the last surviving member of her clan and abandoned by the only man she ever loved. Not just that, she embodies the lost world of elves which the game mercilessly deconstructs into being the bringer of it's own demise.

 

When push comes to shove and we face the true antagonist, Travelyan can potentially challenge Solas beliefs on the basis that humans and other species are better than he takes them for but Lavellan, unless played as extremely cosmopolitan, can only challenge him on behalf of Elves or love which doesn't struck the same message as modern world vs old world.

 

Last of all, BW seems to display mostly the human Inquisitor in their media and especially the rogue one at that.

 

My guess is that their canon follows a pattern as to give each class proeminence. Vanilla DAO was female Dalish warrior and vanilla DA2 was male Hawke mage so they will most likely pick male or female human rogue for Vanilla DAI when DA4 comes out.


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Personally, female elves are my favorite. Some people seem to think that Lavellan doesn't fit the early story as well as Trevelyan, but that's ultimately a matter of taste. She had just as much reason to attend the Conclave as anyone, given that the fighting between the mages and templars had endangered her clan already according to the Codex. And given the world state I played with, even her rise to the 'Herald of Andraste' makes sense. My Warden was a male City Elf who sacrificed himself to end the Blight, and memories of that event are sill relatively fresh. So when another elf comes along and effectively saves the world from being overrun by demons, well, people notice. But in the end, that's all it comes down to. Taste.


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Female elves look like they would disintergrate with one use of shield bash!

 

Its possibly a bit of elf-bullying from me but I can only really play if the character actually looks durable/tough enough to survive the events of the game. Elves look too frail to me, thats all (I realise that they are supposed to look that way, short, thin, supple). From a story perspective I can understand what you mean to a degree, but not everybody would enjoy playing that plot as much as others, so its all about personal opinion in the end. Thats why choice exists!


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