Of course you do. The priestess at Val Royeaux says "The Maker would send no elf" and the guests at the Winter Palace are equally astonished.
And if regular npcs don't count in your opinion, Blackwall and Florianne also address this.
I was talking about conversation between two npc's at Haven.
But yes, there was also the priestess and Blackwall. I don't remember what Florianne says though. And the guests at the Winter palace quickly forget about you being not human after you collect some caprice coins and dirty gossip (it is really very easy to gain max approval, like if you've been playing the stupid Game all your life).
What I am trying to say is that a couple of race specific conversations doesn't help. The game wants you to be human, and it treats you as such. And I don't say this because I love playing humans or anything - I actually really don't (but I have said this many times already).
Well, I never heard this. It is an ambient conversation, and is easily missed. And people don't accept you, because they need you to seal the Breach. They actually beleive that you are the chosen one, and was saved by Andraste, and they spread this rumor. And no one is asking: Hey, why would our prophet save some dirty knife-ear? Josy mentions something about wild stories about the dalish, but that's it. You don't experience any of it by yourself.
And this is why the story doesn't work for me - you could be an elven necromancer, or a qunari mercenary, but the game treats you as a human.
The other person responds that you've been given the nod by Andraste, or something to that effect. So I guess there would be people who actually believe it but also those who see you as just a knife ear but there's nothing they can do about it.
I never felt the game treats me like a human but I don't mind being in the minority if that's the case. If they let you experience more of being dalish it would have to confirm what they're really like whereas the conversation with Josephine leaves it open to your own interpretation. I like to head canon a lot so it suits me fine.
I prefer human PCs as a general rule, but DAI (and especially Solas) pushed me into having a female elf as my canon Inquisitor. Playing as human was fun, but the story definitely best suited my elf.
For what it's worth, I never felt like the game "wanted" me to be human, or that absolutely everybody automatically took a non-human Herald for granted. (There are more exchanges than this, but these are the ones I wrote down...)
Guard: "I've seen your kind use the Chantry, but you never believe in it. And I don't believe in you, dwarf."
Human: "So the Carta really has no opinion on the Herald of Andraste being a dwarf?" Dwarf: "I think the Carta is going to wait and see. If s/he sticks around and the Chantry comes to respect her/him, that's good for business. And if they burn her/him at the stake, well, we didn't say anything about Andraste, did we?" Human: "And s/he's alright with that?" Dwarf: "I don't see that s/he has much choice. S/he's stuck at the table. Best s/he can do is roll the dice and see how long her/his luck holds."
Flissa: "Oh, Maker, you're her/him. You're the Herald of Andraste. And you were sent to remind us that we failed to support the dwarves when the darkspawn attacked. I think dwarves are very respectable, and I've always liked… stone, and..."
Noble: "I didn’t expect you to be so... uh… earthy." Cadash: "You mean dwarven?" Noble: "If Andraste has chosen you as her Herald, I am sure she made no mistake."
Samson: "Do as you will, Inquisitor. Your kind always does."
Corypheus: "You think to best me? A runted dirt-worshipper? Your people have ever been the sand beneath Tevinter heels!"
Human: "Must be strange seeing one of your people held up as the Herald of Andraste." Dwarf: "Somewhat. S/he was born a surfacer, though. Closer to your kin than mine." Human: "I doubt most humans would see it that way."
I think Lysette doesn't like you, either. She makes some remark about dwarves always using the Chantry.
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You're reminding me of why I enjoy playing a dwarf so much, Vertigomez! Well, not the only reasons (my deadly Cadash lady is super adorable... and also, stabby). But it is fun watching folks trip over their own dropped jaws.
You're reminding me of why I enjoy playing a dwarf so much, Vertigomez! Well, not the only reasons (my deadly Cadash lady is super adorable... and also, stabby). But it is fun watching folks trip over their own dropped jaws.
Awww, there can never be too many adorable stabby dorf ladies! People being stunned is great... I always thought the "you were a mistake, this should never have happened" sentiment was especially profound with a Dwarfquisitor, considering you're not meant to have magic at all.
It just goes to show that the best playthrough is whatever you like.
I was talking about conversation between two npc's at Haven.
But yes, there was also the priestess and Blackwall. I don't remember what Florianne says though. And the guests at the Winter palace quickly forget about you being not human after you collect some caprice coins and dirty gossip (it is really very easy to gain max approval, like if you've been playing the stupid Game all your life).
What I am trying to say is that a couple of race specific conversations doesn't help. The game wants you to be human, and it treats you as such. And I don't say this because I love playing humans or anything - I actually really don't (but I have said this many times already).
Well... if the way other characters treat the Inquisitor doesn't matter to you, then you're gonna need to be a little more specific.
Would you like the main plot to be altered depending on race? From a developer's perspective, that probably is impossible.
Well, if the way other characters treat you isn't important you're gonna need to be a little more specific. Would you like the main plot to be altered depending on race?
From a developer's perspective, that probably is impossible.
Of course it is impossible. The problem here is that Bioware added races too late in the development. The plot of the game was thought out before that, and was originally for human protagonist only. This is why the whole game feels like it should be played as a human.
Part of the problem for me personally is that elven protagonist is dalish. It would be better if it was a city elf, I find it hard to roleplay a dalish elf with given options.
I think with the elf they should have at least chosen a city elf, not dalish.
Though I disagree that humans suit the story better, I agree with this part. Especially since your character (of any race) is not allowed to be radically pro-their own race and that's something that had always been big with the Dalish.
Of course it is impossible. The problem here is that Bioware added races too late in the development. The plot of the game was thought out before that, and was originally for human protagonist only. This is why the whole game feels like it should be played as a human.
Part of the problem for me personally is that elven protagonist is dalish. It would be better if it was a city elf, I find it hard to roleplay a dalish elf with given options.
Exactly, which was my point all along. People can play as whatever they want, but the game itself is clearly geared toward a human character.
I was talking about conversation between two npc's at Haven.
But yes, there was also the priestess and Blackwall. I don't remember what Florianne says though. And the guests at the Winter palace quickly forget about you being not human after you collect some caprice coins and dirty gossip (it is really very easy to gain max approval, like if you've been playing the stupid Game all your life).
What I am trying to say is that a couple of race specific conversations doesn't help. The game wants you to be human, and it treats you as such. And I don't say this because I love playing humans or anything - I actually really don't (but I have said this many times already).
I remember comments along the lines of "who would have thought an elf could be so charming" at the winter palace.
For what it's worth, I never felt like the game "wanted" me to be human, or that absolutely everybody automatically took a non-human Herald for granted. (There are more exchanges than this, but these are the ones I wrote down...)
Guard: "I've seen your kind use the Chantry, but you never believe in it. And I don't believe in you, dwarf."
Human: "So the Carta really has no opinion on the Herald of Andraste being a dwarf?" Dwarf: "I think the Carta is going to wait and see. If s/he sticks around and the Chantry comes to respect her/him, that's good for business. And if they burn her/him at the stake, well, we didn't say anything about Andraste, did we?" Human: "And s/he's alright with that?" Dwarf: "I don't see that s/he has much choice. S/he's stuck at the table. Best s/he can do is roll the dice and see how long her/his luck holds."
Flissa: "Oh, Maker, you're her/him. You're the Herald of Andraste. And you were sent to remind us that we failed to support the dwarves when the darkspawn attacked. I think dwarves are very respectable, and I've always liked… stone, and..."
Noble: "I didn’t expect you to be so... uh… earthy." Cadash: "You mean dwarven?" Noble: "If Andraste has chosen you as her Herald, I am sure she made no mistake."
Samson: "Do as you will, Inquisitor. Your kind always does."
Corypheus: "You think to best me? A runted dirt-worshipper? Your people have ever been the sand beneath Tevinter heels!"
Human: "Must be strange seeing one of your people held up as the Herald of Andraste." Dwarf: "Somewhat. S/he was born a surfacer, though. Closer to your kin than mine." Human: "I doubt most humans would see it that way."
I think Lysette doesn't like you, either. She makes some remark about dwarves always using the Chantry.
Exactly. There is a lot of dialogue, not just about being the herald but regarding your race in general from companions and npcs that I don't really see how anyone can feel the game treats them as human. People keep saying it's more tailored to one but they don't explain why.
First off, I agree with those who felt the OP's use of the word 'best' was of course subjective and not meant to actually belittle any other choices. I took it instead as "favorite," and for me, an elf protagonist in DAI is my favorite thus far.
I definitely felt like playing an elf who romanced Solas (my second Quizzie) led to a really powerful overall story experience for me that felt very tied into the main plot. And her investment in "Trespasser" was really powerful that way as well to me.
The Elf has reason to be there. They are sent as a spy because your keeper knows something will happen that will "affect all elves". She was right.
Kinda makes me think she's an agent of Fen'Harel.
I love this idea! It never occurred to me but it's wonderful. For those who RP'd this way, it's also kind of potentially horrible/dramatic if Lavellan was actually set up to attend (and witness? Die? Fail?).
I think my male elf who was enemies with Solas was pretty legit too. Still have all the same elf related stuff but instead of a possible romance there's a rivalry and a "so you think you alone know what's best for our people? All of this is YOUR fault!"
I can definitely see that as being a really interesting potential playthrough and storyline as well. I love that about this game.
I've played an Andrastian human rogue who romanced Cullen, a Qunari mage (abandoned that playthrough, wasn't feeling it), and a Dalish mage who romanced Solas. My Dalish mage is my canon. I love my canon Inquisitor best for a lot of reasons, not least because it was so immediate, so raw and so personal playing a woman loyal to the Dalish religion and culture. I can see this experience going a number of ways...for her, her faith was devastated (and transformed...but devastated). After almost 14 years of playing Western style RPGs, my Lavellan has been the most intense role play experience to date. It was the best story...for me, at any rate.
My canon Lavellan playthrough was really satisfying for me storywise, although hers was more a coming to terms with her past and even some element of Dalish faith. She had hated growing up Dalish. It was brutal and tough, and they distrusted her magic. She hated how insular it was, then left only to be stunned at the outside world's disdain for elves, the blatant racism by many humans, and worst of all, to now be defined by the one thing (being Dalish) she had wanted to escape. She had absolutely no belief in any higher power, so the idea that she was the "Herald of Andraste" was another bad joke. So her storyline with Solas reconnected her with the positive and ancient aspects of being elvish, while also initially shaking her lack of faith in elvish gods then reinforcing that lack of faith. I found it a complex and satisfying journey of discovery for her.
You'd think so from the number of times the fans of female elves say it, but no. It is absolutely not true. Your choices are not superior to other people's choices.
Just to reiterate: I really would never say that and truly didn't think the OP was either. It's a fun conversation and to me, it is relevant, as we literally discover that our companion, friend and LI wasn't just hiding vital truths from us the entire time, he's a freaking ancient elven god whose statues, shrines, and references we have been pursuing across most of Thedas. I found that really cool (and it was even more fun to replay, knowing what we knew).
All of this. 'Best' is subjective. I like playing dwarven Inquisitors precisely because they're not involved in the whole elves versus humans hoopla, and their stake in the lyrium trade gives them slightly more objectivity than, say, a mage from the Circle or an elf who has spent their entire life skirting Templar scrutiny.
I love reading about all the other protagonists and points of view! Like your dwarf's perception of the storyline as a different kind of outsider, or the human nobles, or the Qunari, etc. Each is potentially so rich and different.
I'm of this camp myself, I played the hell out of DA:O and don't have a single Warden or worldstate I consider my "canon", they're all great in their own ways. In DA:I however no playthrough has had quite the impact of my female elf mage. I personally loved how the plot reveals and the solas romance turned her into a rather tragic character who had all her worldviews destroyed and had to make it through that while still being the hero. It felt kind of rare to get that sort of experience for a protagonist from a BioWare game.
That was how I felt too. My Solasmance was a depressing playthrough in many ways (and it's just such a sad note to end on, even in "Trespasser," with her so very alone), but I loved it. Meanwhile, at least I could console myself with the jolly Bullmance (first playthrough, saved the Chargers), or my current, which is finishing up a very sweet Cullenmance.
The orb that started it all is an ancient elven artifact, which changes the implications of the game once discovered.
Skyhold, your base of operations for the entire second half of the game, is an ancient elven building, which you know from the get-go.
Half the places you visit are all steeped in elven significance and history--Shyhold again, the Exalted Plains, the Emerald Graves, Emprise du Lion, Halamshiral, the Arbor Wilds, and at least two ancient elven ruins.
The entire finale is steeped in elven significance. The Arbor Wilds, the Temple of Mythal, an encounter with ancient elves, the Well of Sorrows, meeting Mythal herself, getting one of Mythal's dragons to help you for the final battle (either Morrigan shapeshifted or another dragon found at one of Mythal's lesser temples), stopping Corypheus from using said ancient elven orb from destroying the fabric of reality once and for all.
One of your companions turns out to be an ancient elven god. (Or so elven lore remembers him as.)
While I do plan on playing as human, Qunari and Cadash in future playthroughs, this encapsulated the wonder and richness I felt at playing a Lavellan in DAI. Everywhere you look there are reminders of the world the elves lost to themselves -- everywhere! Buildings, statues, paintings, shrines, veilfire torches, ruins, etc. For me it added an underlying richness and pathos to the entire story. Everywhere my Lavellan went, she was reminded of a history the Dalish themselves had misconstrued. I also always buy all the History and extra dialogue perks, so I felt like there was a ton of subtext -- not just the Elf-specific dialogue options, but those on history, nobility, the underworld, etc.
Sadly I'm going to have to say so far female qunari mage because of how deep your character is with both Sera and Iron Bull.
Sera treats you as love and first sight and regardless of how angry she gets with your character she knows you can take it and finds it impossible to break up with you.
Iron Bull wise you and him grew up on two different styles of qunari life and at times (depending on how you respond to it) it can be quite the political clash.
Not to mention if you remember your DA 2 history of how orlias hates qunari and have been trying to go to war with them....it's instant biggitry in WICKED EYES, WICKED HEARTS. Despite not really being involved your character is just flat out hated. That's some serious realistic wtf.
The only thing upside about being a fem elf is romancing Solas and getting the true intentions from him but being a female qunari your a participant of ongoing war between Orlias and the qunari.
I disagree that the only positive in playing an elf is romancing Solas -- there is a ton of content there -- but I love your thoughts on playing a Qunari, and it definitely makes me look forward to playing one in the future.
Shock? Disbelief? Some sort of emotional reaction at all? I mean, Sera says "The Dalish. Are going. To. $£%@ themselves" while the Dalish Inquisitor is standing next to her both utterly unaffected and nearly instantly accepting of the truth of the claims - initially there are a few caveats, but soon enough the Inquisitor is saying "These freed slaves actually fought back against the Evanuris posing as gods" without a trace of doubt
All the dialogue seems to be written under the assumption that you're not a believer, that's my problem with it. Even the line that is written specifically for an elf has some of that attitude, with the reference to "Dalish legends".
But there are also several options where the Dalish character can choose to be a believer and literally say, "I worship Dalish/elven gods." I felt like there was plenty of varied emotional reaction (and potential reaction) from a Lavellan protagonist, and that it was well-written for the most part. And while the loss of clan Lavellan isn't addressed as it should have been in DAI (I was so saddened by this!), they did remedy this, I felt, in "Trespasser," with dialogue about some of the clan surviving after all, and that Leliana (I think? or Josephine) is working on reconnecting and helping them.
On the "Trespasser" revelations about Fen'Harel, since all of the discoveries of his actions as a rebel against slavery appear to be real truth (versus propaganda), to me the acceptance of each new discovery isn't so much about the character's gullibility as it is the necessity for streamlining the writing and story and keeping it moving. Thus far, I played one Lavellan who was a total nonbeliever, and one who was a Dalish believer, and it was interesting to be able to play both of those with a fair amount of specific interesting dialogue for each opposing viewpoint.
Perhaps my favorite moment there is in "Trespasser," when Sera (who spent DAI openly scoffing at the ancient elves and any discoveries we made) actually takes a moment to ask Lavellan how she's doing with all the elfy stuff (basically, about the 'gods' revelations), and I loved that we could answer "I'm fine with it" or "I'm really not fine with it," and Sera not only responds with a lot of sweetness and heart, but later even makes a diary entry about wanting to help.
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Of course it is impossible. The problem here is that Bioware added races too late in the development. The plot of the game was thought out before that, and was originally for human protagonist only. This is why the whole game feels like it should be played as a human.
Part of the problem for me personally is that elven protagonist is dalish. It would be better if it was a city elf, I find it hard to roleplay a dalish elf with given options.
You say "of course" and continue to keep up impossible expectations.
And let's not delude ourselves, Origins was no better. Aside from the first quest, the main plot plays out the same way. Npc comments and special dialogue options have always been the only difference your race makes in these games.
I believe you're mistaking "The lines I'd come up with for my character aren't there" with "There is no dialogue that allows me to roleplay a Dalish elf".
The devs can't get inside the player's head and include all imaginable possibilities of roleplay, just like they cannot make too many changes revolving around this one aspect. No amount of time can change that.
The very title of this thread and the content of the post is at the heart of one of the major problem with gamers. People honestly think a subjective opinion is objective. Nothing said in the OP objectively support the premiss that the female elf makes the best inquisitor. The whole think was an expression of why the OP subjectively likes the female elf best.
Your SUBJECTIVE likes are not OBJECTIVELY the best. In fact a subjective like can not be objectively shown to be "the best" because subjective and objective are mutually exclusive states.
Gamers have this immature desire to constantly try to make their own personal subjective likes as objectively better than someone who doesn't share their position. This is the same attitude with so many of the DA:I haters they subjectively don't like DA:I so they have to convince the world that they are "wrong" for liking the game.
I get it you like the Female Inquisitor. Have at it and enjoy but STFU about trying to cage you like as some kind of superior objective taste on your part.
You say "of course" and continue to keep up impossible expectations.
And let's not delude ourselves, Origins was no better. Aside from the first quest, the main plot plays out the same way. Npc comments and special dialogue options have always been the only difference your race makes in these games.
I believe you're mistaking "The lines I'd come up with for my character aren't there" with "There is no dialogue that allows me to roleplay a Dalish elf".
The devs can't get inside the player's head and include all imaginable possibilities of roleplay, just like they cannot make too many changes revolving around this one aspect. No amount of time can change that.
No, she states "of course" the devs could not possibly make the game suit a Dalish better than a human, which is the entire point. The game was crafted primarily around a human protagonist, and the elven option was added later. So humans will be favored naturally. That's why we claim the game fits the human better. That doesn't mean it doesn't fit a Dalish at all, just not as well as the human.
Origins was different. It played out different depending on your background and the order in which you chose to complete the quests. With Inquisition you could really only choose to either do the palace first or Adamant. You could also count the side plot with the slaves in Emprise du Lion and the Emerald Graves which I think varies based on which one you do first, as might the one where you defeat the Freemen of the Dales in either the Exalted Plains or the Emerald Graves first, but these are minor plots.
No, she's right in her statement (and I hope I'm referring to Schizya as the correct gender, I'm going by the avatar). She's saying its hard to roleplay as a Dalish elf, a Dalish who believes in the Dalish stories. I did a quick run with a female Dalish and I noticed few options to profess faith in the elven pantheon, and many more dialogue lines that forced her to express doubt, disbelief, or flat out ignorance of the elven pantheon.
They can't possibly do every type of character. But guess what. The human has more options than the elf does. Why? Because the game was designed around a human protagonist.
No, she states "of course" the devs could not possibly make the game suit a Dalish better than a human, which is the entire point. The game was crafted primarily around a human protagonist, and the elven option was added later. So humans will be favored naturally. That's why we claim the game fits the human better. That doesn't mean it doesn't fit a Dalish at all, just not as well as the human.
Origins was different. It played out different depending on your background and the order in which you chose to complete the quests. With Inquisition you could really only choose to either do the palace first or Adamant. You could also count the side plot with the slaves in Emprise du Lion and the Emerald Graves which I think varies based on which one you do first, as might the one where you defeat the Freemen of the Dales in either the Exalted Plains or the Emerald Graves first, but these are minor plots.
No, she's right in her statement (and I hope I'm referring to Schizya as the correct gender, I'm going by the avatar). She's saying its hard to roleplay as a Dalish elf, a Dalish who believes in the Dalish stories. I did a quick run with a female Dalish and I noticed few options to profess faith in the elven pantheon, and many more dialogue lines that forced her to express doubt, disbelief, or flat out ignorance of the elven pantheon.
They can't possibly do every type of character. But guess what. The human has more options than the elf does. Why? Because the game was designed around a human protagonist.
To say just that it's what the developers originally planned I don't think is strong enough reasoning. If it's the storyline that you think fits a human better that is all to do with perspective. There is enough to do with elven lore to argue that a dalish inquisitor is more relevant. I'm not saying this is the case because as people have pointed out it's a very subjective matter but you are saying objectively that a human is better suited without referring to anything that happens in the actual game.
Of course it is impossible. The problem here is that Bioware added races too late in the development. The plot of the game was thought out before that, and was originally for human protagonist only. This is why the whole game feels like it should be played as a human.
Hmm.... if they'd decided to add races earlier, what do you figure would have followed? Cut WEWH outright? I don't share your feelings on this matter in the first place, so I'm not in a great position to guess what Bio would have done.
The very title of this thread and the content of the post is at the heart of one of the major problem with gamers. People honestly think a subjective opinion is objective. Nothing said in the OP objectively support the premiss that the female elf makes the best inquisitor. The whole think was an expression of why the OP subjectively likes the female elf best.
Your SUBJECTIVE likes are not OBJECTIVELY the best. In fact a subjective like can not be objectively shown to be "the best" because subjective and objective are mutually exclusive states.
Gamers have this immature desire to constantly try to make their own personal subjective likes as objectively better than someone who doesn't share their position. This is the same attitude with so many of the DA:I haters they subjectively don't like DA:I so they have to convince the world that they are "wrong" for liking the game.
I get it you like the Female Inquisitor. Have at it and enjoy but STFU about trying to cage you like as some kind of superior objective taste on your part.
Again, my post was subjective. I created this thread because I wanted to read other opinions.
Origins was different. It played out different depending on your background and the order in which you chose to complete the quests.
It did? How?
I did a quick run with a female Dalish and I noticed few options to profess faith in the elven pantheon, and many more dialogue lines that forced her to express doubt, disbelief, or flat out ignorance of the elven pantheon.
When were those? The ones I remember come after the Inquisitor is confronted with evidence that the elven faith is crap.
The human has more options than the elf does.
I didn't see more options for my human. When did I get them?
Though I disagree that humans suit the story better, I agree with this part. Especially since your character (of any race) is not allowed to be radically pro-their own race and that's something that had always been big with the Dalish.
Yes, exactly! There was one line where you can declare that you believe in elven gods. But overall you are only chosing between being agnostic (I don't know if Andraste really saved me), faithful, or entirely skeptical. Was there an option to tell Cory in the end that you believe in elven gods? You just met one of them, and unlike Andraste, she is actually real. No such option sadly.
Being city elf would indeed fix some problems for me (mostly roleplaying options). I still don't like how easily humans exept you as their prophet.
First off, I agree with those who felt the OP's use of the word 'best' was of course subjective and not meant to actually belittle any other choices. I took it instead as "favorite," and for me, an elf protagonist in DAI is my favorite thus far.
This^ It is just my subjective opinion that the game favors human protagonist.And I am saying this as an elf player.
You say "of course" and continue to keep up impossible expectations.
And let's not delude ourselves, Origins was no better. Aside from the first quest, the main plot plays out the same way. Npc comments and special dialogue options have always been the only difference your race makes in these games.
I believe you're mistaking "The lines I'd come up with for my character aren't there" with "There is no dialogue that allows me to roleplay a Dalish elf".
The devs can't get inside the player's head and include all imaginable possibilities of roleplay, just like they cannot make too many changes revolving around this one aspect. No amount of time can change that.
I didn't have any impossible expectations I am saying that the game was already written in such a way, and I don't see how this could have been fixed. Maybe they should have not included other races so late in development, I don't know.
Origins is different. Not once did I feel like I missed roleplaying options. In origins you could easily be any race, because the plot allows it - you become a grey warden, you save the world from darkspawn. We are told that grey wardens recruit everyone, even criminals. But the plot of Inquisition is very different - you receive a mysterious mark which allows you to seal rifts, humans think you were saved by Andraste and declare you as her herald and their prophet (and it is not a big problem that you are a knife-ear from the woods???), you defeat Cory and seal the breach.
So I have a problem with humans accepting you so easily, and that there is indeed little dialog that allows me to roleplay a dalish.
No, she states "of course" the devs could not possibly make the game suit a Dalish better than a human, which is the entire point. The game was crafted primarily around a human protagonist, and the elven option was added later. So humans will be favored naturally. That's why we claim the game fits the human better. That doesn't mean it doesn't fit a Dalish at all, just not as well as the human.
Origins was different. It played out different depending on your background and the order in which you chose to complete the quests. With Inquisition you could really only choose to either do the palace first or Adamant. You could also count the side plot with the slaves in Emprise du Lion and the Emerald Graves which I think varies based on which one you do first, as might the one where you defeat the Freemen of the Dales in either the Exalted Plains or the Emerald Graves first, but these are minor plots.
No, she's right in her statement (and I hope I'm referring to Schizya as the correct gender, I'm going by the avatar). She's saying its hard to roleplay as a Dalish elf, a Dalish who believes in the Dalish stories. I did a quick run with a female Dalish and I noticed few options to profess faith in the elven pantheon, and many more dialogue lines that forced her to express doubt, disbelief, or flat out ignorance of the elven pantheon.
They can't possibly do every type of character. But guess what. The human has more options than the elf does. Why? Because the game was designed around a human protagonist.
Thank you.
Once again - I am not saying that options other than human are invalid. It is not like in Origins, where people claim that Cousland origin fits better. My favorite origin was a dalish one. But in Inquisition I just feel like I am playing a human with pointy rubber ears...
Again, my post was subjective. I created this thread because I wanted to read other opinions.
This was clear from the verbiage of your OP. My feeling is that enough gamers act like children ("what i like is the best PERIOD u stupid n00bs!!1") that people tend to have negativity bias.
I enjoy reading what playthroughs are most meaningful for different people. I sit back and think, damn, interactive narrative is brilliant.
The very title of this thread and the content of the post is at the heart of one of the major problem with gamers. People honestly think a subjective opinion is objective. Nothing said in the OP objectively support the premiss that the female elf makes the best inquisitor. The whole think was an expression of why the OP subjectively likes the female elf best.
Your SUBJECTIVE likes are not OBJECTIVELY the best. In fact a subjective like can not be objectively shown to be "the best" because subjective and objective are mutually exclusive states.
Gamers have this immature desire to constantly try to make their own personal subjective likes as objectively better than someone who doesn't share their position. This is the same attitude with so many of the DA:I haters they subjectively don't like DA:I so they have to convince the world that they are "wrong" for liking the game.
I get it you like the Female Inquisitor. Have at it and enjoy but STFU about trying to cage you like as some kind of superior objective taste on your part.
Did you purposely skip all the bits where people said this was only their opinion, and the OP herself repeatedly posted this was meant as a subjective thread just so you could go on this little rant?
I liked the amount of extra stuff I got as an Elf...
Had a conversation with Josie about my people. Told Cassandra I had my own Gods. Sera hated me because I was Elfy. Every conversation with Solas had this stuff in it. Had an awkward moment with Dorian where he asked if I was OK with him because of how Tevinter treats Elves. Got to argue with Morrigan about the well being my heritage, and talk about what my clan beleived about all the Gods. Had numerous people tell me an Elf couldn't be the Herald. Had the OGB comment on it. Had Cory comment on it.
I had dialogue choices where I needed them to be. I didn't get to specifically say every single choice I made was because of my Elfy beliefs, but why would I? When I make a choice as a human I don't end everything I say with "AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M HUMAN-Y".
I never pick non-humam characters in the games I play, because they always just feel like a reskin. I only picked Elf because I didn't like the look of all the other romance options, and I have to play a romance or I feel like I'm skipping content (I always have to 100% a game, or get as close as I can, so this bugged me). I got far more than I ever expected, and it changed the feel of the entire game. I was really impressed.
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Origins was different. It played out different depending on your background and the order in which you chose to complete the quests.
Wait, what? No, it didn't. The only quest that varies is Redcliffe, and that's actually only if you annul the Circle. And even that choice doesn't depend on order (i.e., you can do it before or after you deal with everything in Redcliffe except the Connor choice, and then Redcliffe waits in a frozen state). No other major quest has any interaction at all, and there are no side quest dependancies.
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I am saying that the game was already written in such a way, and I don't see how this could have been fixed. Maybe they should have not included other races so late in development, I don't know.
