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[Tidus]

Skyhold would fall.. There is no supply line and no replacements.. A large Army would simply surround the area and starve them out-much like they did the wardens at Soldiers Peak. 

[vbibbi]

Do not forget there is a reason Cory did not attacked Skyhold.

Yeah, the devs didn't have the time or resources to implement this.

 

Given the fact a lot of the Inquisition soldiers are from both of those countries, alot of soldiers would surrender or abandon their post instead of fighting their countrymen just to keep an organization intact..most joined to save their families and countryman, not to fight them. That's not counting everything else people mentioned in here.

Orlais and Fereldan could win a military victory, I think, but it would be more costly than it's worth. I think they would have waged more of a diplomatic war like they're beginning to do in the Exalted Council, and with cutting off supply lines like people have said. I do think the conflict would divide loyalties of many Inquisition troops, with some having joined the Inquisition specifically because they saw it as the best way to restore order to Orlais/Fereldan. Why would they continue to support an organization that is now at odds with their homelands?

 

This would mobilize religious fanatics in both countries, and I could see some people joining the Inquisition's cause, but not enough to cause riots or lasting damage within the two nations. Rather, the most fanatical would travel to Skyhold or one of the three keeps to help the cause, but it would end up like Soldier's Peak.

[helpthisguyplease]

Yeah, the devs didn't have the time or resources to implement this.

 

Orlais and Fereldan could win a military victory, I think, but it would be more costly than it's worth. I think they would have waged more of a diplomatic war like they're beginning to do in the Exalted Council, and with cutting off supply lines like people have said. I do think the conflict would divide loyalties of many Inquisition troops, with some having joined the Inquisition specifically because they saw it as the best way to restore order to Orlais/Fereldan. Why would they continue to support an organization that is now at odds with their homelands?

 

This would mobilize religious fanatics in both countries, and I could see some people joining the Inquisition's cause, but not enough to cause riots or lasting damage within the two nations. Rather, the most fanatical would travel to Skyhold or one of the three keeps to help the cause, but it would end up like Soldier's Peak.

Well you can not siege Skyhold because well its on a mountain and you basically eliminate enemies just with avalanches like in Heaven. And we also have powerful Avvar tribe that can help on those mountains. You have to cut the supply line way further then the mountain and that means you have to split the armies and that means weaker armies to eliminate. So they can not get close to the mountain because of avalanches they cut the supply line way further meaning splinting the army to do that meaning a weaker target.

Also the templars or the mages will stay with the Inquisition. So that army is sure to defend and we know that mages are awesome defenders can even keep a entire qunari fleet from taking a fortress. 

So among the very good position of Skyhold, the Avvar allies and the templar-mage army its not gonna be a sure thing.

[Ashagar]

mountain top castles were quite common in the middle ages as were island castles, hill castles, swamp castles, cave castles, islands in the middle of lakes and rivers. None of those locations them impossible to siege.

[helpthisguyplease]

mountain top castles were quite common in the middle ages as were island castles, hill castles, swamp castles, cave castles, islands in the middle of lakes and rivers. None of those locations them impossible to siege.

Really now I know of only 2 castles that where on a snowy mountain. Neuschwanstein castle and Potala palace none actually even sieged. Again how do you protect against avalanches?

[Master Warder Z_]

Really now I know of only 2 castles that where on a snowy mountain. Neuschwanstein castle and Potala palace none actually even sieged. Again how do you protect against avalanches?

 

How do you cause them when your the food and water runs out?

 

By the time you lay siege, you would have waited a month or two for no supply shipments to arrive, let the army starve to death, morale plummet and any opposition is as likely to surrender as fight.

[helpthisguyplease]

How do you cause them when your the food and water runs out?

 

By the time you lay siege, you would have waited a month or two for no supply shipments to arrive, let the army starve to death, morale plummet and any opposition is as likely to surrender as fight.

With a catapult or a firebal or trowing a huge rock or make huge noise. Is that not the point of a siege so they do not get food or water? If they can not make a siege how will they stop them from getting food as you know snowy mountain and snow melted is water.

[Rekkampum]

Yes, through attrition. Or, if Blood Magic is involved, then no.

[Master Warder Z_]

With a catapult or a firebal or trowing a huge rock or make huge noise. Is that not the point of a siege so they do not get food or water? If they can not make a siege how will they stop them from getting food as you know snowy mountain and snow melted is water.

Mountain paths can be blocked.

And snow isn't infinite.

[Melbella]

Who wants to bet the Skyhold basements eventually connect to the Deep Roads? In fact, given their position relative to Orzammar, they might be right on top of Ortan or Cadash Thaig.

[helpthisguyplease]

Mountain paths can be blocked.

And snow isn't infinite.

Its more then enough you wanna say that mountain of snow is not enough water for thousands of soldiers? If you block the mountain passes you have to split your armies making you a target for a attack.

[Ashagar]

And how long before the inquisition is reduced to eating each other and gettting sick from eating snow, the cold and lack of food?

[helpthisguyplease]

And how long before the inquisition is reduced to eating each other and gettting sick from eating snow, the cold and lack of food?

Lets see since they can not get close to the mountain that means mountain passes but seeing how freaking big the mountains are and the Avvar having more experience navigating mountains they could give them some supply and usually fortresses like Skyhold have supplies that last around a year with supplies from the Avvar about 2 years considering that they mountains are huge then freeing a few passes until reinforcments will take them back I guess they could god like this for about 10 years until the attrition takes its toll after all Orlais and Ferelden can reinforce their lost troops the Inquisition can not.

But I do not think Orlais and Ferelden can keep a alliance for so long or the troops in that area for so long they have other enemies. Orlais for example has to contend with Navara the second strongest nation on Thedas. 

[ModernAcademic]

Difficult to ascertain. The Inquisition has bases, spies, scouts and armies in both countries, spread in the countryside and the wilderness. Should any nation declare war, the Inquisition would be in a position to seize many enemy territories without much effort.

[ModernAcademic]

Not to mention that to invade Skyhold is madness.  It would require an extraordinary long march due to its distant location, far away in a cold mountain chain and a formidable war machinery to breach the stone fortifications.

And one more thing: a very careful strategy, because once your troops went past that bridge, they could be easily killed should it be blown up...not to mention archers would rain death on the enemy troops while they were all narrowed while crossing it. 

[ModernAcademic]

The Inquisition is also the right hand of the Divine. So to attack it is to attack the Chantry. Another reason not to declare war, you see.

[Ashagar]

Not to mention that to invade Skyhold is madness.  It would require an extraordinary long march due to its distant location, far away in a cold mountain chain and a formidable war machinery to breach the stone fortifications.

And one more thing: a very careful strategy, because once your troops went past that bridge, they could be easily killed should it be blown up...not to mention archers would rain death on the enemy troops while they were all narrowed while crossing it. 

 

Or the attacking force could simply destroy the bridge trapping the inquisition in skyhold and wait until they starve to death. Also recall the inquisition would have limited forces compared their enemies especially Orlais which is a literal empire with the forces to match. Ferelden only got on its independence back because the Oralisan emperor basically decided it was a worthless land not worth fighting over and to hang his hated relative out to dry.

 

Also it seems likely If Ferelden and Orlais are openly moving against the the inquisition that likely means they have would have the support of the chantry to do so in that sort of scenario.

[helpthisguyplease]

How would they reach the bridge without losing the troops to a avalanche? They will never get close to Skyhold. Yeah I know why Ferelden got its independence it was simply not worth the losses that would entail. But here is the thing they can not fight the Inquisition and Navarra at the same time. Navarra beat Orlais when Orlais had not other enemy but Navarra. 

[Ashagar]

I am not sure if you noticed but its heavily implied Navarra is facing civil war as is with a old ruler with no clear heir, a large royal clan and other noble clans who think the current royal family has ruled for too long and need to be removed from royal power Its more likely Navarra would be involved in a civil war.

 

Your also counting too much on avalanches stopping any attacking troops, any avalanche that would large enough to block or more likely slow down an determined attack would also trap the people in skyhold which would work only to the advantage of the attackers.

[Master Warder Z_]

._. You literally can just station like three guys at whatever routes go up the mountain to watch for caravans bound for Skyhold, after a few don't make it things will break down.

After a dozen then I'd not be surprised if mutinies and desertion occur, after thirty I doubt they'd be in any shape to defend the fortress.

Basically this could be resolved inside a year using less then a hundred troops.

[helpthisguyplease]

I am not sure if you noticed but its heavily implied Navarra is facing civil war as is with a old ruler with no clear heir, a large royal clan and other noble clans who think the current royal family has ruled for too long and need to be removed from royal power Its more likely Navarra would be involved in a civil war.

 

Your also counting too much on avalanches stopping any attacking troops, any avalanche that would large enough to block or more likely slow down an determined attack would also trap the people in skyhold which would work only to the advantage of the attackers.

Well its implied but like in Morrowind where it was implied that the emperor is sick and could die and a civil war might start between his sons was in the end a false alarm. This might be also what if the old ruler live 20 more years and manages to stabilize the country. It did not yet happened. I did not say blocked I mean literally buried alive annihilated like it happened in Heaven. Can you really block people with snow well unless they make sleds yes but if they make sleds then no.

But again if it goes attrition way well its gonna be tough for both the attacker and the defender.

[ModernAcademic]

Also it seems likely If Ferelden and Orlais are openly moving against the the inquisition that likely means they have would have the support of the chantry to do so in that sort of scenario.

 

Well, considering it was the Inquisition who chose the next occupant of the Sunburst Throne, and that the Divine counts on Inquisition support, the Chantry would never sanction an attempt to attack it. 

[Iakus]

The Inquisition cannot be defeated conventionally.

 

THey'd have to find some ancient Elvhen device they could attach to Skyhold and...

 

Nevermind.

[Master Warder Z_]

The Inquisition cannot be defeated conventionally.

...Orlais can send fifty thousand men across a river to invade Fereldan. Why wouldn't twenty thousand suffice to kill a mercenary army of less then a tenth of that?

The Inquisition can be defeated quite easily conventionally.

[Ashagar]

Indeed the same Olrais that when it was making a serious effort instead of just a token effort to rescue a disliked throw away relative steamrolled the entire fereldan army and every fortress in their way to annex Fereldan in the first place with little effort.