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[ZipZap2000]

I hope they do put it in now just to annoy some of you scientist types, you ruined halo, star wars, star trek already sucked, Homeworld and anything to do with space that was actually cool for 30 seconds.

Become an astronaut if you want real life space adventures. I sure as hell don't want to go to Andromeda and be faced with the real world coz that would play out like Farmville, we'd be potato salesman Ryder and his team of trusty fertilizer experts.

Is that what you want? Space carrots and chicken meat? Wanna get half way and start questioning where the oxygen came from or shoot a vorcha collector looking thing in the face with near limitless ammunition?

[Kabooooom]

Is that what you want? Space carrots and chicken meat?

Yes, actually.

[ZipZap2000]

Yes, actually.

There's a joke about Kaiden in there somewhere but I'm not touching it.

[Kabooooom]

There's a joke about Kaiden in there somewhere but I'm not touching it.

You should. Dont be afraid.

[JoltDealer]

My gut reaction, is that we won't see any modified or hybrid aliens. However, after thinking about, the idea isn't as far fetched as I initially thought. As much as I hated Interstellar, the idea of using genetic samples to colonize new worlds was an interesting one and it may be relevant to Mass Effect Andromeda. Genetic modifications could be very useful for withstanding new, inhospitable planets or even just withstanding the detrimental effects of long term, space travel. I could even see alien hybrids being a failed experiment that gets loose that we, as players, encounter from time to time.

[Malthier]

Yuck.

[10K]

The closes relationship humans should have with an alien is a friendship. Anything else, sexual or otherwise, should be forbidden. You might as well screw a pig, they're a different species also after all.

[Gothfather]

My gut reaction, is that we won't see any modified or hybrid aliens. However, after thinking about, the idea isn't as far fetched as I initially thought. As much as I hated Interstellar, the idea of using genetic samples to colonize new worlds was an interesting one and it may be relevant to Mass Effect Andromeda. Genetic modifications could be very useful for withstanding new, inhospitable planets or even just withstanding the detrimental effects of long term, space travel. I could even see alien hybrids being a failed experiment that gets loose that we, as players, encounter from time to time.

No it is far fetch in the extreme. We believe that all mammals have a common ancestor but you don't see 1/2 human 1/2 [insert mammal] running about and that is the same kind of genetic link you are espousing that should make hybrids possible except now the link is further down the chain to microbes vs a complex animal.

 

Lets just assume that the Andromeda galaxy was seeded by Terran bacteria 2 billion years ago. There is nothing that would suggest that anything evolved on another planet would be compatible for genetic cross-breeding when a chimp is only 1.2% different from a human and you can't create a 1/2 human 1/2 chimp hybrid. We have a common ancestor at 3 millions years ago that is a hell of a lot less than 2 billion and we are nearly identical genetically yet it is impossible. There is NOTHING in our understanding of genetics and the theory of other worlds being seeded for life that would even suggest that just because they have a common bacterial ancestor the creatures would be sexually compatible. This idea that you can just genetically modify a hybrid isn't based real science. We can take One gene and splice it into a different species we can't take two existing species and make them sexually compatible with a tweak here and a tweak there.

[Monster A-Go Go]

The closes relationship humans should have with an alien is a friendship. Anything else, sexual or otherwise, should be forbidden. You might as well screw a pig, they're a different species also after all.

 

The heart wants what the heart wants.

 

Also, the crotch.

[AlanC9]

The closes relationship humans should have with an alien is a friendship. Anything else, sexual or otherwise, should be forbidden. You might as well screw a pig, they're a different species also after all.

What if she's a really attractive pig with human-level intelligence?

[Kabooooom]

What if she's a really attractive pig with human-level intelligence?

Then it's okay, obviously, but what if it's a really attractive human with pig-level intelligence?

[Monster A-Go Go]

Then it's okay, obviously, but what if it's a really attractive human with pig-level intelligence?

 

Then she's probably a Kardashian.

[pkypereira]

Then she's probably a Kardashian.

 

Now that's just insulting the pigs.

 

What about Ms. Piggy, she is single after all after breaking up with Kermit.

[BloodyMares]

The closes relationship humans should have with an alien is a friendship. Anything else, sexual or otherwise, should be forbidden. You might as well screw a pig, they're a different species also after all.

Some weirdos do dogs and horses. On the other hand If a pig could talk and express an agreement...nope, I'm not going there.

[AlanC9]

What about Ms. Piggy, she is single after all after breaking up with Kermit.

A little too high-maintenance for my tastes.

[Seboist]

Some weirdos do dogs and horses. On the other hand If a pig could talk and express an agreement...nope, I'm not going there.

 

Given the morbidly obese women I've seen some men with, a pig wouldn't be much of a departure for them.

[Vortex13]

A little too high-maintenance for my tastes.

 

 

Not to mention physically abusive.

[Kabooooom]

Not to mention physically abusive.

Some people like it rough.

Edit: Not Kaboooom. I'm a wuss.

[StarcloudSWG]

No. No 'hybrids' or 'half-anything' in Mass Effect.

 

 

[JoltDealer]

No it is far fetch in the extreme. We believe that all mammals have a common ancestor but you don't see 1/2 human 1/2 [insert mammal] running about and that is the same kind of genetic link you are espousing that should make hybrids possible except now the link is further down the chain to microbes vs a complex animal.
 
Lets just assume that the Andromeda galaxy was seeded by Terran bacteria 2 billion years ago. There is nothing that would suggest that anything evolved on another planet would be compatible for genetic cross-breeding when a chimp is only 1.2% different from a human and you can't create a 1/2 human 1/2 chimp hybrid. We have a common ancestor at 3 millions years ago that is a hell of a lot less than 2 billion and we are nearly identical genetically yet it is impossible. There is NOTHING in our understanding of genetics and the theory of other worlds being seeded for life that would even suggest that just because they have a common bacterial ancestor the creatures would be sexually compatible. This idea that you can just genetically modify a hybrid isn't based real science. We can take One gene and splice it into a different species we can't take two existing species and make them sexually compatible with a tweak here and a tweak there.

I sincerely hope that you don't take this personally, but I honestly feel like you quickly glanced over my post without actually reading it. I wasn't saying that they would be half this and half that, nor was I saying that we sent of samples two billion years ago. Usually, my response are more apt and coherent, but your post genuinely confused me because of how far out-of-left-field your comments seemed.

Gene splicing is a thing, as is gene therapy. I was not suggesting we make some half Krogan, half human monster, but rather splicing in some of their regenerative abilities in a group of people, stranded on a one-way-trip to another galaxy and a (probable) shortage of doctors. Jack was a result of genetic engineering and so was Gillian Grayson, if I'm recalling correctly. Hell, in the original Mass Effect, you speak with a representative from Binary Helix who mentions the genetic enhancements that soldiers get when they enlist. Assuming that all of that is possible in the Mass Effect universe, a failed genetic experiment getting loose and escaping the Ark isn't too crazy.

[Kabooooom]

I sincerely hope that you don't take this personally, but I honestly feel like you quickly glanced over my post without actually reading it. I wasn't saying that they would be half this and half that, nor was I saying that we sent of samples two billion years ago. Usually, my response are more apt and coherent, but your post genuinely confused me because of how far out-of-left-field your comments seemed.

Gene splicing is a thing, as is gene therapy. I was not suggesting we make some half Krogan, half human monster, but rather splicing in some of their regenerative abilities in a group of people, stranded on a one-way-trip to another galaxy and a (probable) shortage of doctors. Jack was a result of genetic engineering and so was Gillian Grayson, if I'm recalling correctly. Hell, in the original Mass Effect, you speak with a representative from Binary Helix who mentions the genetic enhancements that soldiers get when they enlist. Assuming that all of that is possible in the Mass Effect universe, a failed genetic experiment getting loose and escaping the Ark isn't too crazy.

I hope you dont take this personally, but genetic engineering between two different alien species like that wouldn't work. Before I did what I'm doing now, which is neuroscience, I did genetics research. Specifically involving transferring bacterial genes into plants, I wont get into it. Point is, something like that is possible on Earth because no matter how diverse two organisms are, as he correctly pointed out, we still share a distant common ancestor. We still share the same genetic code. We still share the same basic cellular machinery or a variation thereof.

It isn't just putting a gene into another genome. That organism has to read that gene, utilizing the same arbitrary genetic code encoding the same arbitrary amino acids after transcribing it into the same ribonucleic acid messenger signal. Then they have to assemble those amino acids into a protein, using the same or similar ribosomal machinery. Then there can be modification of that protein. Then that protein has to interact with other proteins in a vast milieu of cellular automata in order to actually WORK.

Sometimes, all we want to do is take something like a gene from a jellyfish encoding GFP and put it into another organism to make it fluoresce. That is comparatively easy. But it still only works due to common ancestry. When you start talking about complex physiological mechanisms like an increased propensity for healing that require multiple genes, multiple chemical messengers, multiple cellular interactions, multiple organs and organ systems...and I'm sorry, but forget genetics - a basic understanding of physiology and biology would lead one to conclude that this should be impossible (or close to it) between two alien species.

Note:** the one caveat to that would be that what you propose between two alien species could be possible....if and only if both species shared the same or similar biochemistry, necessitating sharing a sizeable portion of their genome. This would be implausible between two completely alien species, but if Bioware went the "some ancient species seeded the universe with life" route, then they could go that way...but that is such a bad trope that I really hope they dont do it.

[Quarian Master Race]

I hope you dont take this personally, but genetic engineering between two different alien species like that wouldn't work. Before I did what I'm doing now, which is neuroscience, I did genetics research. Specifically involving transferring bacterial genes into plants, I wont get into it. Point is, something like that is possible on Earth because no matter how diverse two organisms are, as he correctly pointed out, we still share a distant common ancestor. We still share the same genetic code. We still share the same basic cellular machinery or a variation thereof.

It isn't just putting a gene into another genome. That organism has to read that gene, utilizing the same arbitrary genetic code encoding the same arbitrary amino acids after transcribing it into the same ribonucleic acid messenger signal. Then they have to assemble those amino acids into a protein, using the same or similar ribosomal machinery. Then there can be modification of that protein. Then that protein has to interact with other proteins in a vast milieu of cellular automata in order to actually WORK.

Sometimes, all we want to do is take something like a gene from a jellyfish encoding GFP and put it into another organism to make it fluoresce. That is comparatively easy. But it still only works due to common ancestry. When you start talking about complex physiological mechanisms like an increased propensity for healing that require multiple genes, multiple chemical messengers, multiple cellular interactions, multiple organs and organ systems...and I'm sorry, but forget genetics - a basic understanding of physiology and biology would lead one to conclude that this should be impossible (or close to it) between two alien species.

b...bbbb...but.....muh turian-human furry fetish fantasy! Damn you, science!

[Kabooooom]

b...bbbb...but.....muh turian-human furry fetish fantasy! Damn you, science!

Lol, we both know that you support only Quarian-Quarian breeding Quarian Master Race. Interspecies mixing is an abomination.

[Monster A-Go Go]

Lol, we both know that you support only Quarian-Quarian breeding Quarian Master Race. Interspecies mixing is an abomination.

 

Abomination, maybe, but nobody gets hurt if you just watch Fleet and Flotilla while running the Nerve-Stim Pro app.

[Quarian Master Race]

Lol, we both know that you support only Quarian-Quarian breeding Quarian Master Race. Interspecies mixing is an abomination.

Dunno about going that far, I'd just rather this franchise adhere vaguely to half decent science when possible, and more importantly not start to attract the furry community. BSN is horrible enough as is.