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[Remix-General Aetius]

The amount of cut content from ME3 alone can be staggering for some people. I mean look at this:

 

http://www.escapistm...spoilers?page=1

 

It's a disgrace to cut out something as awesome as that. I can understand removing the ability to save both Kaidan & Ashley on Virmire, because it ended up being one of the most crucial moments in the trilogy, but the far above is inexcusable and unforgivable. I can go on about it all day, but I can sum it up to one sentence:

 

Bioware, you had better NOT F this up.

[Zazzerka]

Bioware, you had better NOT F this up.

 

I agree with you, but the Devil's Advocate in me says "Or what?"

[Remix-General Aetius]

Or I'll give you warts. You don't want to ****** off a witch.

[Zazzerka]

Warts are easily removed via surgery and cryotherapy.. also you could probably chew them off if you were determined enough.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I'm sure most people think there was a clear intent to make a coherent ending that reflected the choices and story up until that point, so the link taps into something people are already inclined to believe: that some kind of non-creative decision forced the hand of the creative team making the ending.

 

But the linked thread's sub-link to the "proof" in the form of an unnamed ME 3 writer being quoted is, itself, a broken link. We all (more or less) know what happened with the ending, so I don't think random threads from other sites (with broken links) are going to do much to illuminate us.

[Cyonan]

Every major game ever made has cut content, some are just more quiet about it. ME:A will also have content which is cut.

 

The problem isn't that they removed something awesome in this case but rather that they replaced it with something that ended up being poorly done.

[Donk]

Or I'll give you warts. You don't want to ****** off a witch.

Harkin is that you?

[themikefest]

Too bad some of that content was cut. Also the Citadel coup was to of happened after Thessia.

[pdusen]

The amount of cut content from ME3 alone can be staggering for some people. I mean look at this:

 

http://www.escapistm...spoilers?page=1

 

It's a disgrace to cut out something as awesome as that. I can understand removing the ability to save both Kaidan & Ashley on Virmire, because it ended up being one of the most crucial moments in the trilogy, but the far above is inexcusable and unforgivable. I can go on about it all day, but I can sum it up to one sentence:

 

Bioware, you had better NOT F this up.

 

Content in games gets cut all the time, and it almost always sounds awesome on paper. Problem is, sometimes they aren't as awesome as they sound, or sometimes the developers run out of time or money and choose to cut the awesome thing rather than half-ass it, which I agree with.

 

The point is, things will be cut. Evaluate the game as it comes out rather than in comparison to some imaginary game that no one ever made.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Harkin is that you?

 

No, I'm a krogan mechanic. The salvaged combustion manifold brought back my sunny disposition.

 

[Donk]

No, I'm a krogan mechanic. The salvaged combustion manifold brought back my sunny disposition.

I greatly approve.

[ZipZap2000]

Too bad some of that content was cut. Also the Citadel coup was to of happened after Thessia.

Which would have made more sense.





The stuff that was (allegedly) cut from the beam run sounded so good.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Which would have made more sense.

The stuff that was (allegedly) cut from the beam run sounded so good.

 

I don't get why people don't get the Cerberus attack on the Citadel as it is. Just think back to Vigil. The Reapers took control of the Citadel so they could open the relay which leads to dark space AND to get all the information on the current state of the galactic species. Census data, locations and the full 9 yards which makes the harvest easier instead of having to manually "browse" the galaxy. So by this time it's blatantly obvious TIM is indoctrinated and nothing more than a Reaper puppet.

 

 

Warts are easily removed via surgery and cryotherapy.. also you could probably chew them off if you were determined enough.

 

Hmmm.........not where I'd give them to you, they're not. Unless you're a giraffe and have exceptional neck reach & flexibility. Oh, and I have seen a few guys do the.......reaching thing, hmm. Or maybe if you have really long teeth like a Strigoi (with a capital S).

[Lucca_de_Neon]

Warts are easily removed via surgery and cryotherapy.. also you could probably chew them off if you were determined enough.

What about a painful cramp on the butt? Sounds uncomfortable!

[wolfsite]

Cut content is nothing new. 

 

Also I agree with some people saying that because it was cut content doesn't mean it was good content.  Some content that was cut from Saints Row 3 & 4 re-emerged as DLC later on but frankly it turned out rather poor (Enter the Dominatrix is a prime example - though not a complete version of the original idea the story just felt weak in comparison to what it was replaced with in the final game).

[ZipZap2000]

I don't get why people don't get the Cerberus attack on the Citadel as it is. Just think back to Vigil. The Reapers took control of the Citadel so they could open the relay which leads to dark space AND to get all the information on the current state of the galactic species. Census data, locations and the full 9 yards which makes the harvest easier instead of having to manually "browse" the galaxy. So by this time it's blatantly obvious TIM is indoctrinated and nothing more than a Reaper puppet.



Hmmm.........not where I'd give them to you, they're not. Unless you're a giraffe and have exceptional neck reach & flexibility. Oh, and I have seen a few guys do the.......reaching thing, hmm. Or maybe if you have really long teeth like a Strigoi (with a capital S).

I didn't read most of this but I'm going to disagree with everything you disagreed with on principle. Mostly becoz the link you posted to start the thread agrees with me.

Cheeto?

[Hiemoth]

Content in games gets cut all the time, and it almost always sounds awesome on paper. Problem is, sometimes they aren't as awesome as they sound, or sometimes the developers run out of time or money and choose to cut the awesome thing rather than half-ass it, which I agree with.

 

The point is, things will be cut. Evaluate the game as it comes out rather than in comparison to some imaginary game that no one ever made.

 

Yeah, for example as awesome as the sequences described behind the link sound, I couldn't help but ponder how huge a resource sink they also sounded like. Especially since due to the choices in the game, there were multiple variations on the allies available at that stage. As much as I always love the idea that there was just some oppressing force making devs remove that comment out of sheer malice, it just sounds like the devs realized they couldn't make it work like they wanted with the resources they had available. And before the first rushing comment comes out, it is also important to point out they had already delayed the game by six months.

 

I read a dev response to cut comment, I think from Gaider, to why something was removed by asking what the player would have liked to have seen removed instead?

[WittyUsername]

Content will be cut. That's an absolute guarantee. Sometimes, the cut content will be so deep in being developed before the cut that interesting little nuances can be pulled out of it.

 

I always like reading what was cut and not. I just find it interesting. Sometimes, I get a little annoyed because my head goes "Ah man, what could have been!" But what I imagine and what was intended are two different things.

 

Still, I look forward to seeing if anything can be found in the game's codes.

[AlanC9]

Every Bio game ever had cut content. The original NWN script was a lot better than what we got.

[PCThug]

Having a great idea and implementing that great idea are two different things. When stories and characters get cut I tend to assume it's because they couldn't implement them in a way that made their presence worth it. But the players never see the struggles to get it right. They just see the data mined remnants or comments from devs afterwards and assume these things were cut because of a lack of good sense or talent on the developer's end.

[NKnight7]

Cut content is kind of unavoidable, it's difficult to add everything into a single game.

[Hiemoth]

Every Bio game ever had cut content. The original NWN script was a lot better than what we got.

 

There is a cut version of the NWN script? I always thought they added the campaign as an afterthought. Do you know where one can look at the original script?

 

Content will be cut. That's an absolute guarantee. Sometimes, the cut content will be so deep in being developed before the cut that interesting little nuances can be pulled out of it.

 

I always like reading what was cut and not. I just find it interesting. Sometimes, I get a little annoyed because my head goes "Ah man, what could have been!" But what I imagine and what was intended are two different things.

 

Still, I look forward to seeing if anything can be found in the game's codes.

 

While also understanding that things will cut, I too really enjoy reading about the cut content. Sometimes it kind of gives me a better understanding what the devs were going for in the larger scale and what were their priorities when developing the game.

[AlanC9]

There is a cut version of the NWN script? I always thought they added the campaign as an afterthought. Do you know where one can look at the original script?

It was kicking around on NWVault for years. Haven't looked around for it lately.

It's not precisely a script, more like an outline; quite similar to the ME3 leak in structure.

[AlanC9]

The amount of cut content from ME3 alone can be staggering for some people. I mean look at this:

http://www.escapistm...spoilers?page=1

You probably shouldn't take that post too seriously. That guy's quoting stuff out of context to try and conflate some unrelated issues.

The dev quotes are from the "Patrick Weekes" leak-- quotes there because he's never officially taken ownership of the posts. Specifically, the bit where "Weekes" says he has no idea why those scenes aren't in there was not referring to the cutscenes about banshees and krogan and whatnot. "Weekes" is referring to scenes showing the effect of different EMS states when you hit Destroy. He doesn't know why those scenes were cut because they weren't cut. The guy "Weekes" was talking to didn't know what he was talking about, but "Weekes" assumed he did.

Sure, there were plans to do a more involved final mission, but Bio cut them way early. Probably not long after primary VA recording.

[Gothfather]

The amount of cut content from ME3 alone can be staggering for some people. I mean look at this:

 

http://www.escapistm...spoilers?page=1

 

It's a disgrace to cut out something as awesome as that. I can understand removing the ability to save both Kaidan & Ashley on Virmire, because it ended up being one of the most crucial moments in the trilogy, but the far above is inexcusable and unforgivable. I can go on about it all day, but I can sum it up to one sentence:

 

Bioware, you had better NOT F this up.

 

Stop being an unreasonable gamer. Content will get cut period.

 

DEAL.

 

WITH.

 

IT.

 

They are not working on content just to cut it. Content gets cut because games have a finite budget. Game concepts start out in one direction but difficulties mean that may not have the time or budget to iron out the problems in time. Stop the childish antics of 'wah wah wah you suck because you didn't give me what i wanted and you cut stuff.' Name a single form of entertainment media that doesn't leave content cut? happens in books, plays, movies and tv. Hell even improv gets cut when they end a scene that the actors are in the middle of. 'You better not cut stuff or else!' is just childish in the extreme.

 

The self entitlement just oozes from the original post.