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[Blood Mage Reaver]

Flemeth did it, Morrigan did it and all players have been drooling to do it since Origins, will we finally be able to turn into a dragon in a Dragon Age 4?

 

In Inquisition the player acquires the power to control the Fade with the Orb of Fen Harel, the Mark in his hand bearing the ancient magic of a godlike mage.

 

Since the antagonist of DA4 will be said mage, our next protagonist will need some godlike powers to defeat him.

 

I was thinking that instead of a Mark which controls the Fade we could get some other broken Focus ability that allows us to turn into a Dragon like Mythal and lay waste to everything in our path.

 

Thoughts?

[AedanStarfang]

Probably not, I don't see the creators dropping a power like that into the hands of the player. I can see Shapeshifting making a comeback with some newer forms, but dragon not being one of them.

[Orian Tabris]

How do we know Solas will be the antagonist? We were given the impression that "DA3" was going to be about the Mage-Templar War, but that was hardly the case.

 

I'd be happier if we didn't get some god-given ability. I mean, once is enough. I'd be OK if we got small ones like in the Warden's Keep DLC, or the Hawke-specific bonuses and the Dog summon. Oh, and the Inquisitor-only bonuses.

 

Also, I think the ability to turn into a dragon would just be too silly. I can see how that might come about, being set in Tevinter (assuming it is), but actually implementing it into the game... Either it would have to be a small dragon, or BioWare gives us a poorly integrated side quest or mini-game. Now, I could see potential in riding a dragon, but probably only in a cutscene (which would be pretty cool all the same).

 

I suppose a mage PC could get a dragon summoning spell, or a powerful scroll like the Litany of Adralla, for rogues and warriors (or all 3 classes). Maybe the PC has to enter the Fade to obtain it. That'd be better than actually turning into a dragon. Does DA have summoning spells?

 

If Solas is the antagonist, I would hope that there'd be a better way to defeat him, than with a powerful ability to match him. Like, say, powerful Tevinter mages worked with the PC to weaken Solas with powerful spells.

[vertigomez]

Nah. I don't think that Solas is going to be our primary antagonist in DA4, anyway, but even if he was I don't particularly want to be a dragon. I'll leave those dreams to Hawke and Bull.

Also the world is not ready for a dragon-dwarf hybrid.

[Andromelek]

If there is a Dragon around in order to beat Solas, then I highly doubt that it will be the protagonist, is more likely to be a Witch of the Wilds shapeshifting or someone's pet.

If shapeshifter spec comes back, the biggest animal I can see happening it's a Wyvern.

[SomberXIII]

How do we know Solas will be the antagonist? We were given the impression that "DA3" was going to be about the Mage-Templar War, but that was hardly the case.

 

I'd be happier if we didn't get some god-given ability. I mean, once is enough. I'd be OK if we got small ones like in the Warden's Keep DLC, or the Hawke-specific bonuses and the Dog summon. Oh, and the Inquisitor-only bonuses.

 

Also, I think the ability to turn into a dragon would just be too silly. I can see how that might come about, being set in Tevinter (assuming it is), but actually implementing it into the game... Either it would have to be a small dragon, or BioWare gives us a poorly integrated side quest or mini-game. Now, I could see potential in riding a dragon, but probably only in a cutscene (which would be pretty cool all the same).

 

I suppose a mage PC could get a dragon summoning spell, or a powerful scroll like the Litany of Adralla, for rogues and warriors (or all 3 classes). Maybe the PC has to enter the Fade to obtain it. That'd be better than actually turning into a dragon. Does DA have summoning spells?

 

If Solas is the antagonist, I would hope that there'd be a better way to defeat him, than with a powerful ability to match him. Like, say, powerful Tevinter mages worked with the PC to weaken Solas with powerful spells.

Solas may not be the DA4 antagonist. But antagonist as a mage is very likely because Magekillers comic will tie in with future entries.

[Blood Mage Reaver]

You can barely use Focus abilities once every real life hour you spent playing DAI, I don't think that turning into a dragon for massive damage over some 10 seconds would be too much.

 

Besides it could be a progressive power, one bar of Focus neats a mature dragon, two bars neats a high dragon and a full bar neats a great dragon.

 

Dragoooooonssss...... #drools#

[Riot Inducer]

*Invokes the Dragonforce*

 

On topic, the cool factor of a dragon transformation can't be denied but in all honesty I don't know what good a dragon would be in a god-fight. We only had a dragon ally in Inquisition as a one-to-one counter to our enemy using a dragon as a horcrux of sorts. I don't really see why Solas wouldn't be able to petrify a dragon like anything else. No, I think to counter Solas we're going to need serious magical knowledge and power, more than a mere dragon form. 

[thats1evildude]

You could never be a dragon.

[Blood Mage Reaver]

*Invokes the Dragonforce*

 

On topic, the cool factor of a dragon transformation can't be denied but in all honesty I don't know what good a dragon would be in a god-fight. We only had a dragon ally in Inquisition as a one-to-one counter to our enemy using a dragon as a horcrux of sorts. I don't really see why Solas wouldn't be able to petrify a dragon like anything else. No, I think to counter Solas we're going to need serious magical knowledge and power, more than a mere dragon form. 

 

Maybe something related to the Old Gods, we know that Mythal had a strong connection to dragons and she manipulated the entire plot just to get her hands on the soul of one.

 

To beat Solas you would need power akin to an Evanuris and since the name of this series is Dragon Age it would fit if you used some dragon related powers to become uber.

 

Next game is likely to be twice the size of DAI or bigger so I expect there will be room for many of the misteries to be solved.

 

I know the biggest problem about turning into a dragon would be the impracticality of using it on a cramped space but maybe it could be a ghost dragon like Malvernis or something that transports you and your enemies to the Fade when you transform.

 

It gives that Final Fantasy feeling when you drag all your enemies to a personal dimension and beats the crap out of them with attacks too powerful to use on the normal world.

[AnimalBoy]

I prefer not to bother with such abilities.

[MissDragon]

I'd like to be a firefly

[Orian Tabris]

I'd like to be a firefly

 

So your name is for, what? Irony?

[nightscrawl]

I prefer not to bother with such abilities.

 

I have no interest either, really. It just seems like such a gimmick. They wouldn't be able to make it too powerful or the player would expect to destroy everything with their Dragon Power of Awesomeness. It would have to be something used as sparingly as the Anchor and focus abilities, and at that level of insignificance I don't really see the point other than to say, "Because I can," or, "Look at me! I'm a f-ing DRAGON motherf-er!!" spew one gout of fire, and then revert to my normal form.

 

Meh.

[9TailsFox]

Solas may not be the DA4 antagonist. But antagonist as a mage is very likely because Magekillers comic will tie in with future entries.

I think we fight Solas agents, maybe have some interesting rival who is Solas second in command. Maybe some cameo from Solas he show up for 5 seconds beat us  in 2 seconds and leave, If developers notes are true and Flemythal give godhood to Morrigan, I think only she can stand against Solas but I doub't even her is strong enough. But I don't want to kill Solas I don't even know if I want convince him that his plan is bad. I would rather after he removed veil we could help him bring order to the world in chaos. But in trespasser we have only one option to stop him, I pick to try to stop him nicely so it don't really mater how strong he is. And I still don't understand if Mythal approve to his plan or not, she want vengeance so maybe Solas plans and her vengeance is same think.

[MaleShep_MaleInquis]

I think we fight Solas agents, maybe have some interesting rival who is Solas second in command. Maybe some cameo from Solas he show up for 5 seconds beat us  in 2 seconds and leave, If developers notes are true and Flemythal give godhood to Morrigan, I think only she can stand against Solas but I doub't even her is strong enough. But I don't want to kill Solas I don't even know if I want convince him that his plan is bad. I would rather after he removed veil we could help him bring order to the world in chaos. But in trespasser we have only one option to stop him, I pick to try to stop him nicely so it don't really mater how strong he is. And I still don't understand if Mythal approve to his plan or not, she want vengeance so maybe Solas plans and her vengeance is same think.

 

 

This is very disheartening for my Male Warden who romanced Morrigan and had a baby with her. If she's a god now, then what happens to me?

[9TailsFox]

This is very disheartening for my Male Warden who romanced Morrigan and had a baby with her. If she's a god now, then what happens to me?

Warden find how to control Taint like Cory and become immortal with army of darkspawns.

[AedanStarfang]

You could never be a dragon.

Well especially since it's essentially a plot-device used to show off how much more badass and powerful the other character(s) are than you, so I wouldn't see any reason or need for the PC to become one.

[Bob Walker]

It was possible in Neverwinter Knights with no consequence to the plot, but that is not a good comparison.

[In Exile]

Well especially since it's essentially a plot-device used to show off how much more badass and powerful the other character(s) are than you, so I wouldn't see any reason or need for the PC to become one.

 

But it's not. It's about their connection to the ancient elves. It's pretty significant we only see the shattered remains of Mythal (Flemeth) and the presumptive heir to that legacy (Morrigan) do it. We don't see Solas use this form, and I bet he doesn't have it at all - apart from his motif being very different (a wolf), it's not clear he's an Evanuris. 

[Andromelek]

But it's not. It's about their connection to the ancient elves. It's pretty significant we only see the shattered remains of Mythal (Flemeth) and the presumptive heir to that legacy (Morrigan) do it. We don't see Solas use this form, and I bet he doesn't have it at all - apart from his motif being very different (a wolf), it's not clear he's an Evanuris.

Even if he can, it wouldn't be useful because he's a male, something to keep in mind is that male Dragons have a laughable size compared to the females and as such a female shapeshifter could exploit a lot more advantages of a Dragon form than a male could ever do.

[MrGDL87]

You need to learn the thu'um first...

then kill a high dragon...

and then put these new experience points to use by unlocking the 'unrelenting force' ability

 

The thread title made me think of Skyrim.

 

A serious answer would be probably not because Solas may not be the next main antogaonist and plus the 'mark of the rift' type of ability has been done. If you need to take out a god-like antagonist, I would prefer that the protagonist thinks of an ingenious way to defeat them rather than rely on one superpower ability.

[AedanStarfang]

But it's not. It's about their connection to the ancient elves. It's pretty significant we only see the shattered remains of Mythal (Flemeth) and the presumptive heir to that legacy (Morrigan) do it. We don't see Solas use this form, and I bet he doesn't have it at all - apart from his motif being very different (a wolf), it's not clear he's an Evanuris. 

Which is all the more reason why the player character or the party should not have that kind of power, because with these implications we're heading right back into "you need to be a god to beat Solas" territory, which I don't necessarily believe is true.

[thats1evildude]

I do think we'll need significant power to counter Solas, if only to explain why he doesn't just turn the PC to stone.

But Solas is not a god. He is simply an incredibly powerful mage.

[GoldenGail3]

You mean I get to be a Dragonborn *gasps*?

Scarcasm