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[TheKomandorShepard]

The dragon was something that he created on his own, without the dragon Corypheus is completly immortal like he was in Legacy.
I used Corypheus as an example to mention his ability which is something that make all darkspawns weak against it.

He still created it and can be killed because of it.

 

Except Corypheus isn't somone who can be used against darkspawn as first he is dead (at least until they resurrect him in next game )  and Corypheus is pretty much as much enemy of Thedas as darkspawn are (he is even one ).

[helpthisguyplease]

He still created it and can be killed because of it.

 

Except Corypheus isn't somone who can be used against darkspawn as first he is dead (at least until they resurrect him in next game )  and Corypheus is pretty much as much enemy of Thedas as darkspawn are (he is even one ).

No he could not be we do not know if we killed him. Really we do not.

[Aren]

He still created it and can be killed because of it.

 

Except Corypheus isn't somone who can be used against darkspawn as first he is dead (at least until they resurrect him in next game )  and Corypheus is pretty much as much enemy of Thedas as darkspawn are (he is even one ).

You completely missed the point of my argument which was more about his ability rather than Corypheus himself,which would make whoever will master it pretty much undefeatable and invincible against the darkspawns.

[TheKomandorShepard]

No he could not be we do not know if we killed him. Really we do not.

He is dead, pretty much voices from the well said it will allow you to kill him and he didn't return after being killed.

 

 

You completely missed the point of my argument which was more about his ability rather than Corypheus himself,which would make whoever will master it pretty much undefeatable and invincible against the darkspawns.

Corypheus abilities were exclusive to him , there is no another known being with his abilities even archdemons abilities differ from his and he acquired it thanks to being darkspawn , so pretty much there is no way Thedas could use such abilities against darkspawn , so by now disorganization and relaying on archdemon as leading force is their only weakness.

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[helpthisguyplease]

He is dead, pretty much voices from the well said it will allow you to kill him and he didn't return after being killed.

 

 

 

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But he needs to posses a grey warden or probably another darkspawn basically anyone with the taint so how can he find such a being in the fade and even if he did why would he come back his objective was to go to the black city and become a god.

[TheKomandorShepard]

But he needs to posses a grey warden or probably another darkspawn basically anyone with the taint so how can he find such a being in the fade and even if he did why would he come back his objective was to go to the black city and become a god.

Wait are you talking about Corypheus being dead or not being dead, because im confused now. His ability to body hop is turned off when dragon is killed, then pretty much inquistor finishes him off.

[helpthisguyplease]

Wait are you talking about Corypheus being dead or not being dead, because im confused now. His ability to body hop is turned off when dragon is killed, then pretty much inquistor finishes him off.

But he does not need the Dragon to body hoop in Legacy he proved that. 

[In Exile]

But he does not need the Dragon to body hoop in Legacy he proved that. 

It's the other way around. Whatever he did to get his fake AD screws with his ability to body hop, if the fake AD is killed. 

[helpthisguyplease]

It's the other way around. Whatever he did to get his fake AD screws with his ability to body hop, if the fake AD is killed. 

But he did not had a dragon in legacy and he was imprisoned for a reason. It also might mean that the Architect is still alive.

[In Exile]

But he did not had a dragon in legacy and he was imprisoned for a reason. It also might mean that the Architect is still alive.

Sure. The reason he was imprisoned was probably because he couldn't be killed conventionally until he woke up and went coo-coo for cocopuffs.

[Dai Grepher]

The Architect's ritual didn't work on Urthemiel. It only corrupted him. The ritual only works on tainted creatures, and it breaks off the Calling of the old gods. It does not cure or hold back the taint.

 

Corypheus I think could only do the soul transfer while he was alive. That's why he looked up at Larius/Jenaka right before Hawke killed him. He moved out of his body just in time. In Inquisition he split his power with the Red Lyrium Dragon so that it could resurrect itself like an archdemon could, and also he would be able to resurrect himself in the same way. This would allow his dragon to never stay dead, so long as he was alive, and it would allow him to resurrect in a dead body after being killed so long as his dragon was alive to provide a link to the real world. So before, Cory had to body jump before being killed, or else he would die. Dividing this power and giving part of it to the dragon allowed him to die and come back, same as with the dragon.

[Aren]

Wait are you talking about Corypheus being dead or not being dead, because im confused now. His ability to body hop is turned off when dragon is killed, then pretty much inquistor finishes him off.

His ability was only temporary turned off

This with the assumption that he didn't created another horcrux somewhere else to come back once again.....

[TheKomandorShepard]

His ability was only temporary turned off

This with the assumption that he didn't created another horcrux somewhere else to come back once again.....

He was killed shortly after dragon was killed, and considering that he started beg dumat to save him despite his rage against gods pretty much is good indicator he didn't had any back up plan.

[Jedi Comedian]

I honestly think the Wardens are just what they need to be.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I honestly think the Wardens are just what they need to be.

Im not an expert but i don't think they need to be useless fools that are threat to the world safety.

[VorexRyder]

Im not an expert but i don't think they need to be useless fools that are threat to the world safety.

What they don't need is greyderp writing and character assassination.

[TheKomandorShepard]

What they don't need is greyderp writing and character assassination.

Grey wardens aren't a character and pretty much they have been always portrayed this way.

[In Exile]

What they don't need is greyderp writing and character assassination.

 

They're derped harder than anyone derped in the setting since DA:O, which introduced the two derpiest GWs, Riordan and Duncan.While Riordan had the most obviously idiotic move - hitting a bullet with another bullet - Duncan had a lot of subtle dumb ones, like agreeing to a plan guaranteed to doom Ferelden or picking people obviously unqualified to be GWs. 

[diaspora2k5]

They're derped harder than anyone derped in the setting since DA:O, which introduced the two derpiest GWs, Riordan and Duncan.While Riordan had the most obviously idiotic move - hitting a bullet with another bullet - Duncan had a lot of subtle dumb ones, like agreeing to a plan guaranteed to doom Ferelden or picking people obviously unqualified to be GWs. 

Eh, what we know of the Wardens north of Orlais/Ferelden seems pretty good.

[In Exile]

Eh, what we know of the Wardens north of Orlais/Ferelden seems pretty good.

Nothing?

[helpthisguyplease]

They're derped harder than anyone derped in the setting since DA:O, which introduced the two derpiest GWs, Riordan and Duncan.While Riordan had the most obviously idiotic move - hitting a bullet with another bullet - Duncan had a lot of subtle dumb ones, like agreeing to a plan guaranteed to doom Ferelden or picking people obviously unqualified to be GWs. 

What? Did not Riordan destroyed the Archedemon's ability to fly? Hey how could we have killed him if he just flew around we do not have griffins anymore so some sacrifices must be made.

[In Exile]

What? Did not Riordan destroyed the Archedemon's ability to fly? Hey how could we have killed him if he just flew around we do not have griffins anymore so some sacrifices must be made.

The plan is beyond insane and stupid. There is no single more valuable resource in Ferelden than the life of a single GW. The massacre of hundreds of troops is preferable to a life threatening injury to any of the three Wardens, because those are your sole means of killing the AD.

Riordan's plan was to run off alone and jump off a building. The odds of hitting a flying creature are so low that it boggles the mind. The odds of actually hurting it enough before splattering unceremoniously on the ground are even lower.

[Scuttlebutt101]

The plan is beyond insane and stupid. There is no single more valuable resource in Ferelden than the life of a single GW. The massacre of hundreds of troops is preferable to a life threatening injury to any of the three Wardens, because those are your sole means of killing the AD.

Riordan's plan was to run off alone and jump off a building. The odds of hitting a flying creature are so low that it boggles the mind. The odds of actually hurting it enough before splattering unceremoniously on the ground are even lower.

It wasn't his plan, he just saw the opportunity and took it. The odds of hitting the Archdemon with those trebuchets (or whatever they were) while it was flying around were even lower.

[In Exile]

It wasn't his plan, he just saw the opportunity and took it. The odds of hitting the Archdemon with those trebuchets (or whatever they were) while it was flying around were even lower.

No, they're were about the same (zero). Which illustrates how completely ****** stupid the plan to force a march to Denerim with no AD countermeasures is in the end. And Riordan most certainly planned to leap to his death. He didn't just fall asleep and wake up on top of a building.

[ModernAcademic]

Things that urgently need to change concerning the GW Order:

 

1. The Warden-Commander of each region or nation should periodically report to the King/Queen about the Order's activities so as to minimize any distrust felt against them.
2. Each nation should have a specific territory that would serve as an official HQ for the GW protecting that nation.
3. GW should be exempt of any taxation. They provide a service that's fundamental for the survival of people: protecting against darkspawn raids.
4. The crown would give a small monetary contribution to make sure the Order has enough to pay for food and other expenses. In return, their duty would be to patrol the roads and villages for darkspawn raids.
5. Specific legislation should be written to address how a Warden should be punished in the case he commited an offence to the law or a crime against a citizen. Some crimes could be resolved within the GW Order. Others would be judged by the crown.

 

All those measures would ensure there's some level of accountability for the Wardens' actions. Moreover, they would stop being estranged whenever they travelled during their recruitment efforts.

The Order would become something official, with a clearly established role and a certain degree of authority. It would exist as part of society - even though a distant part - and minimize conflicts that could lead to them being exiled from any nation.