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Grey Wardens and their counterproductive policies


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#101
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No, they're were about the same (zero). Which illustrates how completely ****** stupid the plan to force a march to Denerim with no AD countermeasures is in the end. And Riordan most certainly planned to leap to his death. He didn't just fall asleep and wake up on top of a building.


Well, the odds of Riordan's plan working were greater than zero, as evidenced by his plan succeeding.

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Well, the odds of Riordan's plan working were greater than zero, as evidenced by his plan succeeding.

 

:P

 

Would you prefer "effectively" zero? 

Let me put it this way: Riordan's "plan" is as good as one where we only have 3 GWs at any time, because 3 were enough to end the 4th blight. 


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:P

 

Would you prefer "effectively" zero? 

Let me put it this way: Riordan's "plan" is as good as one where we only have 3 GWs at any time, because 3 were enough to end the 4th blight. 

Its only stupid if it does not work. But it worked. 



#104
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Grey Warden organization should work under United "Thedas" Nations (U"T"N), that way they can stay neutral as they should be. For now they are autonomous and that lead to what happen so far. And they also must give away their secrets at least to the governments and so everyone know and clear what they are all about.

 

No one trust secret organizations that work freely such as the Illuminati, Freemasons and such that...because secret is bad, everything that involved secrecy are always bad. Even CIA and FBI that is US federal agency is not trusted because of their secrecy, not from the common people at least, but the goverments know about them.

 

The Blight is a threat to all, so they should be clear about it and every governments should be clear about it. The old treaty is one thing but because of the distrust it makes it harder to them to do their job...unless they like it that way because of they have hidden agendas.,.

 

Grey Warden should be like UN peace keepers army, but only on stopping The Blight matters



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Its only stupid if it does not work. But it worked.


That's exactly the opposite of how any idea ever should be evaluated.

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That's exactly the opposite of how any idea ever should be evaluated.

 

Better wording would be that Riorden did the best that he could with what he had.

 

As senior warden and close to his Calling anyway, Riorden chose to take the first swing at the Archdemon. He saw an opportunity amidst battle and seized it knowing that he wouldn't find another chance. Was it a risky move with a low chance of success? Yes. But it was the BEST shot that he had and while he failed to kill the AD, he ensured that his fellow wardens would have a better chance than he did.

 

Going to Denerim to intercept the AD's army wasn't a dumb move because Denerim was also Ferelden's capital and most populous city. Lose this city and not only do you lose Ferelden's ability to fight the Blight and coordinate it's various arlings and freeholds, but the Darkspawn now have thousands of females with which to make their already large army even bigger.

 

Waiting for the Orlesian wardens wasn't an option since they'd never make it in time and thus, the Army had to attack and kill the Archdemon to try to end the Blight as quickly as possible.

 

It's true that having a stupid plan work doesn't validate said-plan. But attack the AD at Denerim wasn't a stupid plan, it was a calculated all-or-nothing gamble since at this point, the united coalition had less to lose by attacking than by not attacking. They effectively chose the lesser of two evils and made the best of it. And the gamble paid off.


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That's exactly the opposite of how any idea ever should be evaluated.

 In WW2 the best soldier the world has ever seen  a 18 year old badass man sick with malaria managed to basically destroy half a dozen tanks and a small army by himself. You know thinking about it it was very stupid but look he managed. Why do you think the expression exists if you do not try how do you know you will fail. Its because of people like him that defy the odds now once but in this case twice. 

 Sometimes you have to take the chance its better then doing nothing.



#108
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If its who I am thinking you are talking about it was even more impressive given he dd it from a burning tank destroyer and was wounded.