After speaking with a friend of mine who didn't even know that Trespasser existed, much less that it's the *real* ending of Inquisition, it got me thinking about how they would set the world state in the next game for those who choose to never play Trespasser.
Thoughts?
Edit: I guess I should have specified in my topic title that I meant "starting world state" rather than playthrough.
Honestly, I think it'd be largely the same sans the removal of the Inquisitor's arm. The Qun was already at a perpetual state of war with Tevinter, we saw Solas "kill" Flemeth and be revealed as Fen'harel in the regular game. Removal of the veil as a plot device would likely be re-explained in a manner of speaking considering the likelihood of a new cast.
Only plot points I can see that would be confusing at first would be:
The Inquisitor's arm
and
The disbanding or leashing of the Inquisition.
I would be curious about that as well. Haven't played the dlc. Need to get a ps4 and then buy the game of the year edition.
Surely they'd have to make the events of Trespasser the default of anyone playing DA4. The Keep assumes you played it as you'd need to chose the Trespasser choices, so I think they'd just do a 'previously, on Dragon Age' type thing to get ppl up to date.
Every single DLC choice is there in the Keep, (well, most of them anyway) so you have to choose something even if you didn't play them, right? Therefore the world will be built on a world state that includes everything - make a choice even if you didn't do it.
Only way it would work.
To me Trespasser is the actual ending of DA:I, Cory was a 'to be continued'. If you're invested in the world then surely you'd want to play it, or at least watch it on Youtube if you can't afford it, before starting the next installment.
This is one reason, and I think the only reason that need be, why I believe DA:4 will not have the Inquisitor as the Protagonist. It would require players to have played the first game prior, and then the DLC, which a lot of people will not have done.
I assume that the Keep will be used in the next DA game so everybody can set their world state there even those who didn't play the previous games. People can also change their platform if they wish and still set their world state at keep. I played the previous games on PS3 and DA:I on PS4. I think I needed to load my previous games and change the armor of my PC and then save again to get my PCs to show up in Keep.
Unlike ME, the DLCs happen regardless of if you play it. Sort of like how Corypheus was the main villain of DAI and was always set free by Hawke.
Yeah it won't change anything. I can hear the gasps of dismay already but I never bought Witch Hunt for DAO and yet I'm not confused by what I see/hear in DAI even though there are a couple of references to things specifically IN WH. For all the complaints, BioWare does a good job making the stories stand on their own even for those who might not be familiar with previous games or DLC, imho.
This is one reason, and I think the only reason that need be, why I believe DA:4 will not have the Inquisitor as the Protagonist. It would require players to have played the first game prior, and then the DLC, which a lot of people will not have done.
Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 had Shepard remain as the protagonist, and yet didn't require players to play the previous games.
Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 had Shepard remain as the protagonist, and yet didn't require players to play the previous games.
Yes. Although if you started ME3 with a new PC there was limited amount of choices in which you could choose from such as you couldn't choose that you had a romance with Garrus in ME2.
Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 had Shepard remain as the protagonist, and yet didn't require players to play the previous games.
Yeah agreed and Liara is always the Shadowbroker by the time you get to M£ 3 anyway whether you play the DLC to help her become it or not.
Yeah agreed and Liara is always the Shadowbroker by the time you get to M£ 3 anyway whether you play the DLC to help her become it or not.
Yep, but at least if you don't do it the story is slightly different. I guess they could do that with DAI where if you don't do Trespasser all the facts are as if you did, like Liara, but something in DA4 is changed.
For example I did a run of ME3 a few months back where I deliberately ignored Liara in ME1 & 2. At the beginning of 3 EDI says in the cockpit that she's the shadowbroker and Shep said (in one of those automatic chats on the Normandy peeps have) 'Liara's the ShadowBroker???' He had no clue. Then I chatted to Liara and she explained the whole thing to me, and that Feron was dead because it took her a while to get some mercs together (whereas if you go with her you save Feron).
Nice touch. She may be the SB anyway but I liked the fact the game acknowledged Sheps non-involvement. DA4 could potentially do the same thing with any of the DLC's, like a world where the first Inquisitor is never discovered for example.
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