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Please, no galaxy-wide threat or "chosen-one" cliché!


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ReveurIngenu

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That's something I just can't stand in hollywood and western scifi. There's always a planet-wide or galaxy-wide threat, and we always follow a kind of "chosen-one" protagonist, the one who will save the planet/galaxy. There always has to be some kind of big "baddie". to fight against. What if instead, the conflict were not a big baddie but just the conflicts that arise through the exploring and colonizing of a new galaxy.

 

We could imagine a story of the Milky Way species coming together in the wake of the Reaper threat, and sending large groups of representatives of each species out to Andromeda on a sort of Noah's Ark as a last hope, in case the Reapers reap all the intelligent Milky Way species. These representatives know it's a one-way trip, no matter the outcome of the fight with the reapers in the Milky Way. Once in Andromeda, we follow these colonists as they explore and seek to colonize and establish themselves in Andromeda. Their encounters with local species, their search for resources, conflicts arising amongst the colonists (Do we stay here or do we keep searching) or between the colonists and the local species.

 

We could deal with heart-wrenching goodbyes as certain of the colonists decide to establish themselves on habitable planets, while the rest continue their trip, not really knowing where they're heading or where they'll stop. The protagonist, your character, could just be a leader, one tasked with doing everything to ensure the survival of the Milky Way species and the colonists. But just one amongst many.

 

Maybe I've watched too much Star Trek, Star Gate, or other episodic scifi where each episodes deal with just those things (exploring and stuff), but not every story need be against a huge threat. Small stories, those that as a whole end up constituting the story of a entire species or of an entire galaxy, can make for such powerful storylines. I tire of the sort of planet-wide or galaxy-wide conflicts or baddies. I think a more intimate, smaller scale story, would be so much more effective. Localized conflicts, emphasis on character and character development, on exploration and on meeting others, and simply on the most important - life. First contacts, first awkward steps, a seemingless limitless galaxy to explore.

 

The gameplay (since we're most likely going to get a third-party shooter) could revolve around fighting renegade groups of colonists who believe that they are free to take whatever they want, including planets on which intelligent but primitive species live. Or fighting against Andromeda species hostile to the arrival of the Milky Way galaxy species.

 

There is no need for a galaxy-wide baddie, such as the Reapers, the borg, the wraith, or any of the galaxy wide baddies of modern scifi. I guess, I would like a game more on exploring and less on combat and fighting a big baddie. Maybe that makes for boring gameplay, I don't know. But I know I dream of coming across such a game.


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Um.... dream on.


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I would prefer not to have a galaxy wide threat. 


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Well, you may kind of get your wish. Mass Effect: Andromeda is only taking place in a small part of Andromeda, so chances are the threat won't be galaxy-wide. 

 

We could imagine a story of the Milky Way species coming together in the wake of the Reaper threat, and sending large groups of representatives of each species out to Andromeda on a sort of Noah's Ark as a last hope, in case the Reapers reap all the intelligent Milky Way species. These representatives know it's a one-way trip, no matter the outcome of the fight with the reapers in the Milky Way.

*disgusted noise*, Ark Theory.  :sick:



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MMM we all know by now that most Bioware games have a lot of re-run factor.

 

 Here's my thoughts..

1. We know we have a new human main character alliance/spectre type.

2. Multiple planets/moons/asteroids to explore.

3. A -meta- hook to span the new series.

4. Romance,messy,heart ripping romance.

5. A throwback to ME 1-3 (come on,you know they will toss nods in)

 

Looking back throughout the history of Bioware games .. I hope I am suprised by the new game!looking forward to it!



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Unfortunately if the leaks are any indication its going to be yet another "only humans can save the day" type story.


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Our numbers will once again darken the skies of every world!

 

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Big bad ancient evil, a chosen one and evil voodoo magic artifacts are Bioware staples, expecting their games not to have it is less realistic than expecting a JRPG without a teenage HS aged protag.

 

Also..

 



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Unfortunately if the leaks are any indication its going to be yet another "only humans can save the day" type story.


God I hope not! If they do it it would plummet in a worse way and people don't want to buy games from BioWare anymore.

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What, you don't like the plot of every JRPG ever made?

Personally, my vote is for 15 year old Kommandur Ruydur to wake up in bed with his talking sword singing to him across the room next to the bookshelf with all those old books on prophecies at his uncle's house (Coveniently an Orphan, though dad was probably an Organian) in the sleepy village of Dumkopf shortly before his goofball buddy and his Yamato Nadeshiko not-yet-girlfriend who will Certainly Not be Kidnapped via Shoulder Grab much later show up to invite him to explore the decrepit Prothean ruin in the woods.
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Big bad ancient evil, a chosen one and evil voodoo magic artifacts are Bioware staples, expecting their games not to have it is less realistic than expecting a JRPG without a teenage HS aged protag.

https://www.youtube....h?v=v_YozYt8l-g


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I'm cool with the protagonist being the person mostly or solely responsible for saving the day, so long as that is an accident of fate. I'd rather the protagonist just happens to be in the right place at the wrong time and has the prerequisite job description, rather than being the only person in the galaxy with the 'Right Stuff' to get the job done.

 

At times the Shepard Trilogy leaned a little too far towards the latter and implied that the galaxy would be doomed if Shepard were killed-in-action. That shouldn't have been true after the Battle of the Citadel. 


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I enjoy large scale, high stakes stories. It's not necessary, but I'd generally prefer that Bioware keep to that tradition.



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I must say, I never understand how someone that claimed to love him just left him to be slowly burned to death instead of, say cut of his head? (I know, pis)



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If the leaks are correct (which is super likely at this point), the game takes place in a single, albeit very large, star cluster in Andromeda.

So there couldn't be a galaxy wide threat since you dont have access to the entire galaxy.
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I kind of like the big threats or the 'chosen one' type character. I'm fine with them coming back for Andromeda.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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If the leaks are correct (which is super likely at this point), the game takes place in a single, albeit very large, star cluster in Andromeda.

So there couldn't be a galaxy wide threat since you dont have access to the entire galaxy.

Then again Mass Effect 1 was only in part of a galaxy yet the villain threatened all of it. But yeah chances are it will be a more localized threat. 



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I wouldn't mind this if someone else outside of the protagonist is the "chosen-one" and for eventual plot reasons, we end up searching for them. "Golden Child" style.
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I wouldn't mind this if someone else outside of the protagonist is the "chosen-one" and for eventual plot reasons, we end up searching for them. "Golden Child" style.

 

There is some speculation that the N7 from the trailer might have been the first Pathfinder, and the protagonist replaces him after the N7 runs into trouble during the events of the trailer. We know at least that the N7 is important in some way, without being the protagonist himself. The N7's companions from the trailer also may match up with two characters from an earlier leak who supposedly are the player character's companions.



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Then again Mass Effect 1 was only in part of a galaxy yet the villain threatened all of it. But yeah chances are it will be a more localized threat.


True story. And admittedly, I'm worried the plot may go something like: Initially you are exploring a small part of Andromeda, but it feels massive. Over the course of the story, you slowly discover this area is actually a small part of a much larger relay network,twice the size of the Milky Way's, and that the Andromeda galaxy suddenly becomes a lot smaller and interconnected by comparison. Then - insert galaxy wide threat.

It's almost so predictable that I wouldnt be surprised if Bioware goes that route...

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this is going to be my character no matter what 

 

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But I like being special.

Also TLDR
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For all the vitriol about the "chosen one" trope, can somebody name an rpg they actually liked that didn't use it? Not sarcasm. I'm genuinely trying to find some clarity on all the dissatisfaction.
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For all the vitriol about the "chosen one" trope, can somebody name an rpg they actually liked that didn't use it? Not sarcasm. I'm genuinely trying to find some clarity on all the dissatisfaction.

 

Dragon Age 2, though it wasn't entirely successful with that approach.

 

Hawke ends up the man or woman of the hour mostly through pure chance.


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