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[aoibhealfae]

I didn't know that, I've only experienced the romance once.  I'd love it if those kind of options were available again, but perhaps they were only available in ME1 because there were so few romances?  I'd guess when they doubled the LIs it started to get too complicated.

 

I think it helps that the writer probably had experience with writing Carth and Revan romance. Normally I'd romance a character twice and exploring different dialogue paths before getting bored afterwards but it took me a while to realize there's a lot of hidden romance dialogues I never heard of (I'm not sure about Liara or Ashley though). Didn't really see much of this in ME2 and ME3.

[Novak]

I have to retract one statement about the Quarian hips. Well I took a look at the statistical data again which bioware released. Apparently Liara was quite popular choice (at least as a team member). 

That only goes to show how minority groups are often the most vocal (or the biggest fans idk) and that it doesn't really represent the reality. Otherwise the majority of players would be femShep who's an adept and mostly bangs Garrus on the side. 

 

As posting stuff on here would probably classify here is more of a hardcore fan thing I wouldn't be surprised if most played more something like that. I always wondered for what reason some of creative decisions were made as they introduced ME3. I understand now (I've read the data before just reminds me) why they did what they did on some of the mechanics etc. The truth is casual players simply pay the same price for the games as hardcore fan's do, so you have to cater to them too. 

[Xen]

Yeah man, you've nothing to worry about with your blue spacebabes. They're likely the most popular species among the fanbase and Liara was most popular LI by a fair margin. ME: A will almost certainly have the series' 5th asari squadmate in 4 games, of course with a Romance. 

 

Fans of quarians have to be loud because with the exception of  the lone character Tali they're widely hated. A plurality of players intentionally killed them off in ME3.

[Novak]

Yeah man, you've nothing to worry about with your blue spacebabes. They're likely the most popular species among the fanbase and Liara was most popular LI by a fair margin. ME: A will almost certainly have the series' 5th asari squadmate in 4 games, of course with a Romance. 

 

Fans of quarians have to be loud because with the exception of  the lone character Tali they're widely hated. A plurality of players intentionally killed them off in ME3.

 

They didn't kill Tali off as I recall. I always saved both races if that's what you're referring to. Although I can see why people are getting annoyed with quarians they can be viewed as kind of annoying with their unreasonable drive to stay in space rather than just finding a new world before their crappy immune systems decay. But whateves.

[Shechinah]

I think there is about as much of a chance of there being no asari love interest in Mass Effect: Andromeda as there is of there being no human love interest in Mass Effect: Andromeda. 

[Novak]

I think there is about as much of a chance of there being no asari love interest in Mass Effect: Andromeda as there is of there being no human love interest in Mass Effect: Andromeda. 

 

It's still an EA game, marketing won't fly with no humans no chance. The funding cutbacks wouldn't be worth it for BioWare.

[Novak]

I think it helps that the writer probably had experience with writing Carth and Revan romance. Normally I'd romance a character twice and exploring different dialogue paths before getting bored afterwards but it took me a while to realize there's a lot of hidden romance dialogues I never heard of (I'm not sure about Liara or Ashley though). Didn't really see much of this in ME2 and ME3.

 

Like what? I played ME a couple of times and never noticed anything different.

[AlanC9]

Fans of quarians have to be loud because with the exception of  the lone character Tali they're widely hated. A plurality of players intentionally killed them off in ME3.

I don't check your math there.

[aoibhealfae]

Like what? I played ME a couple of times and never noticed anything different.

About what? you're jumping in the middle of the conversation

[von uber]

It they go down a trilogy route again I'd like to not have my LI over three games suddenly decide we are just friends halfway through for... reasons.
Especially when it's been abundantly clear that eternity is definitely going to be embraced yet again.

Oh and handwaving not coming to visit your li who has basically been in prison for 6 months. Whoever thought that was a good idea probably wrote the cerberus arc as well.

In fact overall ME has been pretty cack when it came to romances over multiple games, with the VS on me2 being particularly ridiculous.

[Novak]

About what? you're jumping in the middle of the conversation

Yea sorry, I meant what other LI dialog? The onces I did were pretty much only the couple of talks in the cabin and that's it. 

[aoibhealfae]

It they go down a trilogy route again I'd like to not have my LI over three games suddenly decide we are just friends halfway through for... reasons.
Especially when it's been abundantly clear that eternity is definitely going to be embraced yet again.

Oh and handwaving not coming to visit your li who has basically been in prison for 6 months. Whoever thought that was a good idea probably wrote the cerberus arc as well.

In fact overall ME has been pretty cack when it came to romances over multiple games, with the VS on me2 being particularly ridiculous.

I reckoned they took account of Lair of the Shadow Broker being optional and simply default Liara as distant.

 

I was surprised that you did get a real conversation with Ashley about the 6 months thing. Never quite forgive how she went "meh..." about not visiting. At all. For the whole six months. Damn woman, that's cold, I was your friend!

 

At least Kaidan did live in Vancouver and he never said he didn't visit either. But some of their conversation pretty much hint they had another big couple argument. 

 

 

Yea sorry, I meant what other LI dialog? The onces I did were pretty much only the couple of talks in the cabin and that's it. 

Well, I'm only talking about Kaidan. Other than the triangle scene, if you don't talk to Liara at all, he won't register her interest and simply flirt FemShep outright. And somewhere down the line, there's a talk about them taking shore leave together. If you choose to argue with him about Vyrnnus and choose to push him toward Renegade, he will respond your pushiness as another trait that he like (or turn on.. the tone is quite unmistakable) and he will have a different conversation starter when he entered Shepard's room. 

 

I think most notable was the several different conversation branches during the Normandy lock down scene. The vanilla ones was Shepard asking for his support, the neutral path being Shepard who could handle everything but a bit disappointed that he's still uncertain. The renegade ones are the one when you tried to push him away. If you mix them all, you can have Shepard trying to push him away but apologize and then toy with him or Shepard frustrated at him for being lackadaisical about their relationship and then aggressively flirt with him and etc and he would have several responses to her from admiration to near declaration of love to horn dog. By far still most enjoyable set of banters I had in the game.

[ebevan91]

It they go down a trilogy route again I'd like to not have my LI over three games suddenly decide we are just friends halfway through for... reasons.
Especially when it's been abundantly clear that eternity is definitely going to be embraced yet again.

Oh and handwaving not coming to visit your li who has basically been in prison for 6 months. Whoever thought that was a good idea probably wrote the cerberus arc as well.

In fact overall ME has been pretty cack when it came to romances over multiple games, with the VS on me2 being particularly ridiculous.

 

I just don't want them to pull another Ashley/Kaidan if we have another trilogy, where the character is gone for a long period of time and then when you finally get them back, they only hang around for a little while before they get sidelined again (coming back in ME3 only to be out for over half the game due to being in the hospital).

[ZipZap2000]

I just don't want them to pull another Ashley/Kaidan if we have another trilogy, where the character is gone for a long period of time and then when you finally get them back, they only hang around for a little while before they get sidelined again (coming back in ME3 only to be out for over half the game due to being in the hospital).

They made the VS into a.....seriously what were they doing? Its hard to figure out what they were going for the VS romance.

Kaiden is desperate not to die alone and Ashley is a reformed space racist who doesn't agree with a word you say anyway. The whole thing is at odds with both of the later installments.

[aoibhealfae]

I just don't want them to pull another Ashley/Kaidan if we have another trilogy, where the character is gone for a long period of time and then when you finally get them back, they only hang around for a little while before they get sidelined again (coming back in ME3 only to be out for over half the game due to being in the hospital).

If you play it right, it really doesn't need to be half the game. You only miss VS for the Grissom arc, Turian-Krogan arc and the Citadel coup arc. You can save a lot of missions and the DLCs as bulk fill the gap between Rannoch and Thessia. 

 

But its pretty unforgivable what they did to Talimancers in ME3. She was there in the beginning of ME1 and ME2 and suddenly she's reduced to being the last companion you pick up in the end. 

[Morty Smith]

ME:A needs affectionate sparring sessions. The best way to the heart of your LI is a punch through the rip cage.

[wright1978]

But its pretty unforgivable what they did to Talimancers in ME3. She was there in the beginning of ME1 and ME2 and suddenly she's reduced to being the last companion you pick up in the end. 

 

Yes because a character being a companion for 3 games is such a hardship.

Many other romances would have happily taken Tali's slot on the roster in ME3 and she could have been reduced to an NPC cameo.

[Battlebloodmage]

Yes because a character being a companion for 3 games is such a hardship.

Many other romances would have happily taken Tali's slot on the roster in ME3 and she could have been reduced to an NPC cameo.

People who are mad about this need to remember that Tali wasn't even supposed to be a ME3 companion in the first place, so people should be happy that they change this decision to include her. 

[aoibhealfae]

The failings of ME3 was primarily due to the game's narrative structure. They have the tendency to tell their story in chunks rather than linearly especially in ME1 and ME2 because it was still up to player's prerogative to pick their own narrative path. I could trade all the minigames, Mako, Hammerhead, exploration missions, planet scanning, mini romances and stripper clubs just so they could they plan out on making the trilogy narratively coherent and evenly distributed throughout the trilogy. Mass Effect was build around several big arcs; Shepard-Reaper conflict, Alliance-Cerberus conflict, Salarian-Turian-Krogan conflict and Geth-Quarian conflict, the least they could do was be consistent about it. 

 

Even if she's not romanced, Tali is still the one who made Shepard a Spectre. And I thought that her recognizing Shepard was more definite that the 'field test' Miranda and Jacob did to prove Shepard is Shepard (they said they know who Shepard is, but they're just strangers). She play a big role in Quarian-Geth arc and Shepard could never secure peace without her in the admiralty board.

 

If anything, I would made Garrus optional since he was exactly created as that in the first game and the writers didn't even care to include him in the greater narrative except b*tching about how the Turians should have listen to Shepard when he does nothing to help his people until the very last minute... and he turns out to be some Palaven hotshot with nepotism connections to the Turian hierarchy. Why do we bother with Sparatus in the first place again? Then again, I would happily trade Liara for anyone... she should stay with the Crucible project and coordinating with Hackett, not piggy back on my warship and stealing my XO office like she isn't a galactic criminal figure or anything. 

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

If you play it right, it really doesn't need to be half the game. You only miss VS for the Grissom arc, Turian-Krogan arc and the Citadel coup arc. You can save a lot of missions and the DLCs as bulk fill the gap between Rannoch and Thessia.

But its pretty unforgivable what they did to Talimancers in ME3. She was there in the beginning of ME1 and ME2 and suddenly she's reduced to being the last companion you pick up in the end.

Absolutely. Talimancers got screwed in ME3. But they could have fixed that by making the game nonlinear.

[von uber]

Then again, I would happily trade Liara for anyone... she should stay with the Crucible project and coordinating with Hackett, not piggy back on my warship and stealing my XO office like she isn't a galactic criminal figure or anything. 

 

Well she certainly does a good job of it then

[themikefest]

Then again, I would happily trade Liara for anyone...

Tela Visor, Samara and Shiala would work except one will always be dead and the other two can be dead.
 

she should stay with the Crucible project and coordinating with Hackett,

Sending her to Hackett would be better. She can help translate the plans. Its funny Ashley/Kaidan can be sent to him., but not her. What can Ashley/Kaidan contribute to the project?
 

[LoonySpectre]

I want optional one-night stands with no further strings attached, like the one with Jack in ME2. How's that for a romance mechanics?

[wright1978]

I want optional one-night stands with no further strings attached, like the one with Jack in ME2. How's that for a romance mechanics?

As long as we don't awful cameos from game reporters like allers I don't take issue with odd casual sex partner outside of the serious romances(or as a variant of one of them if it suits the character like Jack)

[Halfdan The Menace]

Hunting a thresher maw together under the the light of the moon is romantic.