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[ArcadiaGrey]

This is why I advocate for clearly delineated dialog choices where we can decide if we want to lock-in or not. And, turning down a potential L.I. should not cause the end of all conversations (between missions) with a squadmate for the rest of the game. Let those friendships develop too, but not usurp your current L.I. relationship unless you specifically decide to do so.

 

They did that well in DA:I so hopefully they will in ME:A too, it was clearly stated that this choice will start a relationship, and this one will end it.  Nice and clear.

 

I'd like some reference, even just a sentence, to show that you used to be in a relationship with someone (or flirted a lot with them but turned them down).  It was very odd to me in DA:O that my brief romance with Leliana was never mentioned again by anyone, not even her, when I dumped her for Zevran.  She was hurt but then the dialogue for the rest of the game was as if there had never been a romance at all.   I wish just one line had come in to recognise it.

 

But does turning them down stop all friendly dialogue?  I have to say I haven't noticed that, I've been able to chat freely with everyone in both games.  Of course I haven't turned anyone down in ME3, I've kept my old relationships, so perhaps you're referencing that....

[von uber]

One of the worst things about ME3 was a playthrough here I was doing a Liara 1>2>3 romance and decided to meet Kaidan on the Presidium, and he was all "Oh hi Shep, fancy a bit of the K-meister?"

I took a screenshot of Shep's look because it was exactly how I was feeling at the time:

 

[Master Warder Z_]

I was doing a Liara 1>2>3 romance 

 

Wow.

[wright1978]

One of the worst things about ME3 was a playthrough here I was doing a Liara 1>2>3 romance and decided to meet Kaidan on the Presidium, and he was all "Oh hi Shep, fancy a bit of the K-meister?"

I took a screenshot of Shep's look because it was exactly how I was feeling at the time:

 

 

LOL, yeah i learned that my first playthrough continuing my Miranda romance. in subsequent playthroughs i made sure to wait for the official lock in with her before having a sit down with Kaidan and  therefore got the friend dialogue.

[von uber]

Wow.

 

It's the best romance for femshep. Mainly because they screwed all the others over.

[aoibhealfae]

I played ME3 briefly awhile ago and I'm actively being 'professional' to Liara and she FINALLY talk to me without any "just.. friends" romance ambiguity. Its kinda fussy too since she did have flirt/romance-initiator, neutral and renegade dialogue branches and you can only access two depending on the situation. Had to snub her several times (twice in her office, thrice at presidium) just so this scene would go smoothly so that she wouldn't stop the scene prematurely and act like she's hurt.

 

designation in dialogues is needed. 

[Jaquio]

In terms of romance mechanics, I'd like to see more situational dialogue specific to romantic partnerships. 

 

I care more about ambient dialogue between characters and other things that make the world feel more alive than I do about sex scenes and stuff like that.  It doesn't have to be crazy, but simple things.  Say my character is separating from the group to go do a risky mission alone.  While a non-romanced character might say "aye aye, commander," the same character who has been romanced might say "please be safe" with concern in their voice.  Just little things.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

In terms of romance mechanics, I'd like to see more situational dialogue specific to romantic partnerships.

I care more about ambient dialogue between characters and other things that make the world feel more alive than I do about sex scenes and stuff like that. It doesn't have to be crazy, but simple things. Say my character is separating from the group to go do a risky mission alone. While a non-romanced character might say "aye aye, commander," the same character who has been romanced might say "please be safe" with concern in their voice. Just little things.

Yeah, the games could use a lot more of that. You know, just recognizing your romance.

[aoibhealfae]

I find its adorable that Cortez would often sigh, "Sometimes I worry about you" especially toward unromanced Shepard. Can't help but feeling cared for.

[animedreamer]

i thought about this last night, so im going to post it here. Not only in Mass Effect but in Dragon Age as well, protagonist seem to just get laid with very little build up. Like there should be more than just talking to a person then saying "yeah lets bang." outside of the Solas x Lavellan romance, I can't recall one time you actually went on something resembling a date with your partner. Seriously , I think Iron Bull just straight up comes to your room and does you, didn't even bring some champagne. Shepard is no different, FemShep turns it on so thick she didn't even need Jacob because by time he shows up I could have sworn she'd had topped herself off.

 

Is that how it works in Canada? "Hey, I hear you have some issues you need resolved, lets go do them, then we'll bang okay?"

 

Shepard: "Dating? I don't got time for dat! I got ADD."

 

In other words, cool it down a bit., show the characters actually doing other things together. Persona 3 and 4 had a cool little skit where when you were between social ranks and spent time with a person you'd just be seen with them walking around doing a activity, or just conversing before cutting to black. This could work in any BioWare RPG as well.

[Khrystyn]

For romance mechanics, I'd be happy with seeing the protagonist and their L.I. develop a very strong bond of friendship through to the end of Andromeda I: simply hugs, tender kissing, and teasing. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy viewing a tender moment of intimacy, and the love scene in ME-1 with Ashley (or Liara) and MaleShep was tastefully done; shapely curves in subdued light. The bra scenes in ME-2 aren't satisfying. And this time around, if there is a masked alien (Tali-esque) then I want to see their face if they were romanced. Naked in the hot tub and caressing in a shower scene are nice places to see the budding romance evolving. Settings for private (non-plot) conversations could be in an arboretum, and, at the end of a plot mission where only the two of them have survived brutal fighting, a squadmate has just died, and they are sheltering in place waiting for evacuation. The glow of a nearby fire, the stars above, and quiet time to learn about each other (not a make-out session). Character development! Whew! Gets my passions flowing! They should also talk about what they are finally realizing about this new galaxy. Just thoughts.

[tesla21]

i thought about this last night, so im going to post it here. Not only in Mass Effect but in Dragon Age as well, protagonist seem to just get laid with very little build up. Like there should be more than just talking to a person then saying "yeah lets bang." outside of the Solas x Lavellan romance, I can't recall one time you actually went on something resembling a date with your partner. Seriously , I think Iron Bull just straight up comes to your room and does you, didn't even bring some champagne. Shepard is no different, FemShep turns it on so thick she didn't even need Jacob because by time he shows up I could have sworn she'd had topped herself off.

 

Is that how it works in Canada? "Hey, I hear you have some issues you need resolved, lets go do them, then we'll bang okay?"

 

Shepard: "Dating? I don't got time for dat! I got ADD."

 

In other words, cool it down a bit., show the characters actually doing other things together. Persona 3 and 4 had a cool little skit where when you were between social ranks and spent time for a person you'd just be seen with them walking around doinge a activity, or just conversing before cutting to black. This could work in any BioWare RPG as well.

I specially like the Persona idea, I don't like how the romances feel so much like single events, It's like --romance conversation --- plot --- filler --- plot --- filler --- romance -- plot --filler, etc, etc. They are too far and few in between, I did think this was done better in DAI.

 

It would be great if there would be little details, with vague and short dialogue (for resources sake) that actually shows you are romancing someone. It doesn't have to be a ground shaking moment with your partner, just some hanging around, after coming back from the tiring missions abit of a sit down, talk, whatever that implies you spent time together. That and some in-mission romance dialogue as others have said, your LI shouldn't act the exact same way during every mission as if you weren't romancing her/him. Some really short, every now and then dialogues would make mountains of difference at giving the feel of a proper romance.

[Lyrandori]

* clears throat *

 

I have a few ideas for... romance mechanics. Hey, some of it includes dialogue too okay?

[Hadeedak]

I specially like the Persona idea, I don't like how the romances feel so much like single events, It's like --romance conversation --- plot --- filler --- plot --- filler --- romance -- plot --filler, etc, etc. They are too far and few in between, I did think this was done better in DAI.

 

It would be great if there would be little details, with vague and short dialogue (for resources sake) that actually shows you are romancing someone. It doesn't have to be a ground shaking moment with your partner, just some hanging around, after coming back from the tiring missions abit of a sit down, talk, whatever that implies you spent time together. That and some in-mission romance dialogue as others have said, your LI shouldn't act the exact same way during every mission as if you weren't romancing her/him. Some really short, every now and then dialogues would make mountains of difference at giving the feel of a proper romance.

 

 

One of the reasons the Garrusmance is far and away my favorite Bioware romance is that he actually notices you're dating in ME3, and several dialogues are changed. In fact, that was pretty aces in ME3 in general -- besides Liara, who forgets you two are a thing for some reason. But yes. More schmoop or dialogues that change based on your relationship status would be the best.

 

Vivienne rearranging Skyhold because she doesn't like you is amazing.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Since the thread about it was locked, I would again like for there to be some romances where sex is either optional, left ambiguous, or not part of it.

[Novak]

"BiowareMod02: The Lock Strikes back" would be a great movie title

Or "Lock Wars: BiowareMod02 Strikes Back"

[aoibhealfae]

I specially like the Persona idea, I don't like how the romances feel so much like single events, It's like --romance conversation --- plot --- filler --- plot --- filler --- romance -- plot --filler, etc, etc. They are too far and few in between, I did think this was done better in DAI.

 

It would be great if there would be little details, with vague and short dialogue (for resources sake) that actually shows you are romancing someone. It doesn't have to be a ground shaking moment with your partner, just some hanging around, after coming back from the tiring missions abit of a sit down, talk, whatever that implies you spent time together. That and some in-mission romance dialogue as others have said, your LI shouldn't act the exact same way during every mission as if you weren't romancing her/him. Some really short, every now and then dialogues would make mountains of difference at giving the feel of a proper romance.

 

I believe they did a good job with Citadel DLC and Leviathan DLC. LI saving your butt and being mad at you for being reckless. In ME3, there's some LI specific ambient dialogues which you can take.

 

 

One of the reasons the Garrusmance is far and away my favorite Bioware romance is that he actually notices you're dating in ME3, and several dialogues are changed. In fact, that was pretty aces in ME3 in general -- besides Liara, who forgets you two are a thing for some reason. But yes. More schmoop or dialogues that change based on your relationship status would be the best.

 

Vivienne rearranging Skyhold because she doesn't like you is amazing.

 

I actually didn't like the way Garrus kept referring to himself aloud as Shepard's boyfriend and all the grand romantic gestures. Its like he's showing off for an audience and trying to compensate for something and to me, it was very insincere.

 

And not sure about Liara. I think a bulk of her romance scenes and acknowledgment required continued romance from LOTSB. 

[Hadeedak]

I suspect the difference was just because Garrus is the only 'carry-over' romance who's hanging out on the ship.

 

Liara has this thing where it's entirely possible you hooked up with someone else in 2, so it'd be awkward as all-getout if she was being snuggly while Shepard has switched their affections completely Thane-ward or something. So hence the cold shoulder in 3. Whereas, Garrus has the soft confirmation when he gets on the ship and doesn't have a game in-between.

 

I guess if it's a trilogy again, it might be best to be careful with that so we don't wind up with another group of sidelined, stabbed, or cheating LIs from the middle game. And the soft confirmation would be ideal before the hard lockin.

 

I dunno, coffee.

[aoibhealfae]

Other that Traynor and Cortez, new romances in ME3 didn't really add much. Kaidan merely says "Shepard, I have feelings for you" and there's really awkward conversation with Liara where they go "ummm aaa hmmm yes, shepard, I'm ready for this" *smooch*, I haven't attempted Ashley romance yet. I think only KaidanXBroShep romance that was given the priority especially the conversation they had at the cafe.

 

But Kaidan does have a carry-over if you're faithful to him. He is slow to trust but I think he's the only LI in the game who repetitively says "I love you" in different ways; in ME1, Horizon, Mars, the hospital, once on Citadel after the coup and another at the Presidium, Normandy, Earth. 

 

Honestly, I want more conflict with each romances but I don't want it to end up like Alistair having to impregnate someone for you two to survive or Anders blowing up a chantry or Jacob didn't know what a condom is or Malavai wanting to kill me, his wife... sigh. I think the last male PC romance I enjoy was between Revan and Bastilla Shan.

[KaiserShep]

"BiowareMod02: The Lock Strikes back" would be a great movie title

Or "Lock Wars: BiowareMod02 Strikes Back"

 

 

Mod Wars: The Lock Awakens

[KaiserShep]

Vivienne rearranging Skyhold because she doesn't like you is amazing.

 

Kinda lame that you can't do anything back though. Your character literally has the authority to get some of Cullen's Templars to toss her off the mountainside. 

[Andrew Lucas]

I surely won't appreciate Ryder doing fetch quests in order to get romantically involved, nor a freaking message box telling me "hey u, click dis to get laid, k?" like in DAI.

My immersion sense just tingles whenever that pops on my screen.

[Osena109]

Witcher 3 type sex scenes.

[Twilight_Princess]

I'd like to see the ME2 cabin visits return but they should be available once you lock in the romance, not right at the end of the game. It would also be nice it they included DAI style kiss options and dialogue when you invited them up.

[In Exile]

Kinda lame that you can't do anything back though. Your character literally has the authority to get some of Cullen's Templars to toss her off the mountainside. 

 

Yeah, it's weird. "In an interesting coincidence, today is also the day we publicly announce your eviction from the Inquisition! What a happy coincidence. I hope you enjoy the wealth of very slanderous materials Josephine has written about you on the way out. :)"