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[ABASOVA]

O.0 what is Kaidan doing?

Karaoke!

 

To-

[rapscallioness]

 

*snip*

 

 

 

  this....is great. I've never seen this gif. It's adorable.

 

edit: i think kaidan is pretending to be singing, and what not.

 

editedit: nvm. ninja'd.

[ShallowlLife9871]

it's cute, but I am now imagioning Kaidan singing Wannabe by the Spice girls for some insane reason

[prosthetic soul]

Gimme six total, 3 of each gender. One bi, one straight, one gay. That way people have 2 possible options for romance. That's more than fair, in my opinion.

 

DAI did it very weirdly, at least to me.

Oh god, it's finally happened.  Romances in Bioware games are now made using a spreadsheet. And it sounds like this spreadsheet would have really come in handy for Noah and his ark. 

[Puddi III]

I recently stumbled on a trailer for a dating sim on steam. People who use this pejorative clearly have no idea what these weird, strange, and incomprehensible games are like. Just one trailer for one of these and you can see that whatever it is that Bioware does, it's not a dating sim. No more than TW3, which has a way more dedicated and involved romance anyway.

Using the likes of Huniepop and that Sakura trash as a representation of all dating sims makes the JRPG/VN thread sad.

We will make a good otaku who watches PMMM out of you yet.

[Seraphim24]

it's cute, but I am now imagioning Kaidan singing Wannabe by the Spice girls for some insane reason

 

Oh good now an excuse for that!

 

Spoiler

[ABASOVA]

  this....is great. I've never seen this gif. It's adorable.

 

edit: i think kaidan is pretending to be singing, and what not.

 

editedit: nvm. ninja'd.

I'm currently doing a M/M Kaidanmance and so far so good! Kaidan has an adorable quality.

[NM_Che56]

The evolution within this comment is fascinating. It begins by agreeing with the premise of the thread, and then quickly develops into a sarcastic response to a hypothetical request for more options that the thread isn't asking for.

 

I wonder at the concept that fewer, deeper romances would equate to less strain on the budget than more varied, but less deep ones. If they were to reduce the number of options but add more content to the ones they do have, does it automatically follow that it would use less of those finite resources?

 

1) Ok

2) more mo-cap sequences, Dialogue options.   More actors.  So, to answer your question, maybe or maybe not.

 

 

Comment about budget notwithstanding, I felt more of a connection to Elizabeth (Bioshock: Infinitie), Ellie (The Last of Us), Clementine (The Walking Dead) and Quiet (MGS V) than I have with most Bioware characters that were romance options.   I would rather have a more meaningful relationship development (and not necessarily romance) than a bunch of superficial options or interactions.  

[xAmilli0n]

Comment about budget notwithstanding, I felt more of a connection to Elizabeth (Bioshock: Infinitie), Ellie (The Last of Us), Clementine (The Walking Dead) and Quiet (MGS V) than I have with most Bioware characters that were romance options.   I would rather have a more meaningful relationship development (and not necessarily romance) than a bunch of superficial options or interactions.  

 

Its funny how that works.  When you have a reason to care for a character other than the fact that they are a romance option, it tends to have more of an impact.

[Shechinah]

Its funny how that works.  When you have a reason to care for a character other than the fact that they are a romance option, it tends to have more of an impact.

 

Luckily, I usually can find plenty of reasons so it tends to not be a problem for me personally 
 

[Sarayne]

Using the likes of Huniepop and that Sakura trash as a representation of all dating sims makes the JRPG/VN thread sad.

We will make a good otaku who watches PMMM out of you yet.

As a huge Visual Novel fan I really really hate that Sakura games are popular on steam. It is just a horrible example of VNs and they are milking that cow so hard.

[Shechinah]

As a huge Visual Novel fan I really really hate that Sakura games are popular on steam. It is just a horrible example of VNs and they are milking that cow so hard.

 

I rather like Dramatical Murder though the true ending is not my cup of tea especially due to some of the story elements it introduces. It has its flaws but the art style is pleasent, the voice work is more than good and the characters are enjoyable and I liked that the protagonist were more aware than I expected and that his ability to fight was not the informed ability I had feared.  

 

Though, I should advise that those who are interested in trying out the game and are interested in romance that they do not select Mink's route because he is not a romance. The game might claim that he is but I am rather convinced that Mink's character somehow managed to jump games. I find Mink's character, story and route to be very fascinating personally but holy expletive, I do not consider him a romance until in the fluff addition.  

[Battlebloodmage]

Fate Stay Night is a really good visual novel, asides from the weird sex scenes which you can remove anyway with the English patch.  It likes the concept and how it actually represent the whole growing up with each route, basically idealistic, then seeing the flaws in the ideology, and seeing the limitation and abandon the entire ideology altogether.

[Mechler]

Never tried the original visual novel version but Higurashi no naku Koro ni is super awesome as an anime. I even used it to turn one of my anime hater friends into an anime fan.

[Gothfather]

Well let me make this clearer, there does appear to be a very strong interest in those aspects, and they also appear to be under some false geas imposed by the "gaming sphere" that you have to care about "gameplay" but seems to me to be more often about limiting the potential within Bioware games?

 

Dragon Age 2 was just a good experience, lots of interesting, unique, character interactions, etc, but then a bunch of people were criticizing it based on "gameplay" reasons and I'm like, the gameplay was about as good as it gets from Bioware and still better than most other "games" I play which barely invest in it at all.

 

I mean what were holding up as better? Skyrim? That thing was a massive quest a thon chore grind on a fundamental level, I mean, I still enjoyed it and all but Dragon Age 2 was a better game (or lets just say better experience) than Skyrim.

 

I'm not inventing that a lot of people found that focus very appealing, or that an equal number of people made groundless assertions that it was a "worse" game. Ok, maybe it wasn't so gamey, but compared to what, Arkham? Uncharted? Assassin's Creed? None of those games are gamey, Assassin's Creed 3 was really just a movie to be honest all the mechanics and things were so unbelievably awkward..

 

You can actually draw a similar analogy to FF13, it wasn't a very gamey Final Fantasy either, or something but neither were the arlier Final Fantasies.

 

I disagree with you but our disagreement is based on subjective things.

 

I play Bioware games for their stories but it is false to say I don't care about game play. DA2 is a game i have only played twice and I hated the game play so much that it is the only Bioware game where i turned down the difficulty to the easiest lvl simply to make the game end faster. I love Hawke and Hate Anders. I think Anders is the best villain Bioware has ever written. And i "hate" him because he was so well done and such a great progression from Awakenings to DA2. But i really really hate DA2 for its game play. Pretty much every other RPG that bioware has done had superior game play to DA2. I don't understand how you think DA2 is as good as it gets.

 

I disagree with you about Skyrim. I think Skyrim blows DA2 out of the water in terms of quality. But again likes and dislikes on media are subjective there is no right or wrong. My opinion is 100% right and correct for ME. Your opinion is 100% right and correct for you.

 

For many people DA2 does the worse crime you can do for a game it was boring to "play." Yes the story was interesting but the environments and level design were so boring and they reused so many environments that should have been unique because the nature of telling the story over ten years means you will see the same locations over and over again so two different caves shouldn't look and be the exact same. The combat was bland and DA:I while taking the same foundation refined it so that it is actually enjoyable to fight things. In DA2 it was monotonous, the endless enemy spawns, enemies falling from the sky. All the bits in between the story where a chore to endure for more than a small minority.

[Donk]

Oh god, it's finally happened. Romances in Bioware games are now made using a spreadsheet. And it sounds like this spreadsheet would have really come in handy for Noah and his ark.

My mind went to places @ "Spreadsheet"

[Han Shot First]

Asari have a thousand year lifespan. Even if it took them less than a hundred years to mentally mature, Liara is still a Maiden and a long way from being a Matron. Shepard is in early 30s. I think the right term was 'barely legal'.

 

How many 'barely legal' people have advanced university degrees and have spent years working as an archaeologist? 

 

Hanako had it right. She's probably the rough equivalent of someone in their twenties. 

 

Asari appear to hit adulthood somewhere between 40 and 60 years old. Samara says that Morinth left home in her 40s, though she also notes that Morinth was very young at the time. There is an Asari on Illium that can be overheard saying she's 60 years old and glad to finally be moving out of her parents house. The way she words it however might indicate that she lived with parents for a little longer than usual. Liara is 104 in Mass Effect 1 and had been an archaeologist for 50 years, which puts her at 54 when she started her career, right in that 40 to 60 bracket.

 

My take is that 50 is probably closer to reaching adulthood and Morinth was probably the equivalent of a teen runaway.

[SnakeCode]

Lmao, reminds me how there was all that obsession with a LI "chart" in the months before Inquisition was released. What seemed like every other BSNer went into a frenzied state, frothing at the mouth wanting to get a hold of this mythical chart.

[Donk]

Lmao, reminds me how there was all that obsession with a LI "chart" in the months before Inquisition was released. What seemed like every other BSNer went into a frenzied state, frothing at the mouth wanting to get a hold of this mythical chart.

Wait there was a chart? First thing that popped into my mind was "Tali sweat graph".

ahahahahahaahahaha

[Battlebloodmage]

Pedophilia often has to do with the way people obsess over someone's undeveloped body and the fact that they're too immature to give consent. Both of these don't apply to Liara, she has the body of a grown woman, smart, and capable of making critical decisions. I'm not a fan of Liara, but she's nowhere close to a "teen" in term of look or intelligence or age. These fantasy rules are funny sometimes, it's like talking about incest with Fallout 4 where you can have relationship with your "grandchildren" or "children" depending on how you define it. 

[In Exile]

Pedophilia often has to do with the way people obsess over someone's undeveloped body and the fact that they're too immature to give consent. Both of these don't apply to Liara, she has the body of a grown woman, smart, and capable of making critical decisions. I'm not a fan of Liara, but she's nowhere close to a "teen" in term of look or intelligence or age. These fantasy rules are funny sometimes, it's like talking about incest with Fallout 4 where you can have relationship with your "grandchildren" or "children" depending on how you define it. 

 

Wait, what?

[Battlebloodmage]

Wait, what?

2 of the romance options, Danse and Curie, were made by using your son's DNA. 

[aoibhealfae]

How many 'barely legal' people have advanced university degrees and have spent years working as an archaeologist? 

 

Hanako had it right. She's probably the rough equivalent of someone in their twenties. 

 

Asari appear to hit adulthood somewhere between 40 and 60 years old. Samara says that Morinth left home in her 40s, though she also notes that Morinth was very young at the time. There is an Asari on Illium that can be overheard saying she's 60 years old and glad to finally be moving out of her parents house. The way she words it however might indicate that she lived with parents for a little longer than usual. Liara is 104 in Mass Effect 1 and had been an archaeologist for 50 years, which puts her at 54 when she started her career, right in that 40 to 60 bracket.

 

My take is that 50 is probably closer to reaching adulthood and Morinth was probably the equivalent of a teen runaway.

 

Barely legal also means someone who is within their late teens specifically 18 years old. Intelligence and sexual maturity hardly correlate to one another either. Does a teenage genius meant she's mentally and sexually mature as an adult as well? (which reminds me of this story of girl genius who became a prostitute... adults were taking advantage of her and she fell apart..)

 

Liara was primarily based on Mission Vao. ME1's Liara carry a lot of Mission's personality in particularly an intelligent naive innocent girl... except that Mission is 14 years old meanwhile ME1's Liara is 106 and she herself quote "she is barely considered more than a child" by Asari standard, you can simply knock the 0 in between that if that's make a difference. It was until in ME2 and ME3 that she began to develop mentally and physically into a mature woman. Mission Vao also have her adult counterpart who is Vette in SWTOR who is a slave and is nothing like Mission or Liara.

So, do I feel ME1 Shepard, who is an adult in late 20s, is taking an advantage of a young girl who is approximately in her late teens? Yes. It doesn't help that Meer make himself sound like a creep. Then again it wouldn't be odd if they had a chaste relationship like Tali and Josephine and naturally progress into a sexual relationship in later installment.

 

But my main issue in the last few posts wasn't about her age, it was when adults defending themselves projecting their fantasy of her having their babies. Saying that she's old enough to have sex equals to she's old enough to have their babies..... this young very intelligent alien girl, the person you see grow in three games, with 900 years more to go in her life.. its just plain wrong, man.

[Battlebloodmage]

I feel like I'm reading a tumblr post.

[Akrabra]

2 of the romance options, Danse and Curie, were made by using your son's DNA. 

To be fair, Curie is only installed in a body made by the Institute,her personality comes from the Miss Nanny unit she was. Also isn't this spoiler territory?