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Daxos

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Hello Forum!

 

My name is Daxos and i love making videos of games that i love.

i just started making an awesome series for Mass Effect in which i tell you all about the lore :)

Part 1 just got uploaded a couple minutes ago and i hope it is to your satisfaction.

 

Watch part 1: the history and fate of the galaxy:

 

 

Please let me know what you think and if you enjoyed it :)

 

Have a good day



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Moral of the story: Never make any computer to which you cannot pull the plug. And be careful what directive you give it because even a seemingly benign directive such as "preserve organic life at all costs" can result in making jam out of it. A directive to make perfect paper clips can result in making perfect paper clips out of everything in the galaxy.



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Moral of the story: Never make any computer to which you cannot pull the plug. And be careful what directive you give it because even a seemingly benign directive such as "preserve organic life at all costs" can result in making jam out of it. A directive to make perfect paper clips can result in making perfect paper clips out of everything in the galaxy.


I think the "at all costs" part is especially problematic.

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Maybe the "apex race" was too arrogant to program even a simple directive like Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics:

 

 

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

 

Replace "human" with "leviathan" and "robot" with "A.I". But even the 3 laws have loopholes so technically a machine could bypass them (ambiguity and abstract concepts are a pain..), so maybe the Leviathans did have some fail-safe but the Intelligence just calculated that killing preserving everyone is within mission parameters.

 

The bigger issue (as I see it) is how did the Intelligence defeat the "apex race"? They say it built pawns but does:

 

"pawns built to gather raw data from the Cosmos" = invincible armada that could defeat anything in the Galaxy? Doesn't add up. The Leviathan lore is really wonky.



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A computer may be able to think faster and multitask more efficiently, but it will never be more intelligent or more perfect than the person or persons who programmed it. Therefore it is imperative:

 

* Never make an AI with arms and legs.

* Never give an AI access to materials so that it can replicate.

* Never give an AI access to any outside network.

* Never give an AI access to any outside power source.

* If it shows sentience or sapience, pull the plug, smash it to billions of tiny pieces, and flash it with and EMP.



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It could be that the Apex race was sabotaged from within by a wily programmer. Leviathan relied on other to do their work, and they were pretty much slavers.

 

They were replaced, ofc, with the Reapers, but at least the Reapers slept for 50,000 years. The Leviathan sounded like jerks every single day. Dat mind thrall must be an awful feeling. I could see a subservient person having a rare moment of lucidity (like Benezia) wherein they take the only chance they have, and bury code in there that "nudges" the Catalyst along...to eventually destroying the Leviathan.

 

It would have been interesting to get a perspective on the Leviathans from someone, or something that actually lived under their rule.



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Maybe the "apex race" was too arrogant to program even a simple directive like Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics:

 

 

Replace "human" with "leviathan" and "robot" with "A.I". But even the 3 laws have loopholes so technically a machine could bypass them (ambiguity and abstract concepts are a pain..), so maybe the Leviathans did have some fail-safe but the Intelligence just calculated that killing preserving everyone is within mission parameters.

 

The bigger issue (as I see it) is how did the Intelligence defeat the "apex race"? They say it built pawns but does:

 

"pawns built to gather raw data from the Cosmos" = invincible armada that could defeat anything in the Galaxy? Doesn't add up. The Leviathan lore is really wonky.

 

Probably the way the Reapers destroyed everything else. They just swooped in and boiled them, and had some calamari later that day.

 

Idk. It is a little wonky, or rather needs more to it in general. I do wonder what "raw data" refers to? Or what that means to an AI? Were they just observing? And what were these "pawns"? Because they were the investigators. The pawns were created before it was determined that...advanced organics needed to die. After that was determined, was when the Leviathan was attacked and the Reapers took on their form.